By chestycough - 16/09/2013 04:35 - Australia - Belrose
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It's NOT creepy in the slightest. A proper pulmonary exam should not be masked by restrictive clothing which can not only muffle sounds but also restrict movement of the chest. Not only should a doctor watch your breathing, he should do it BEFORE listening. And to do a full exam he should percuss too (tap on the chest), but I'm sure everyone here would consider that malpractice and advise her to sue, right?
87&89: Although that's a great idea, to have an RN in the room when an MD is doing an assessment, it's not realistic. The reason being, RNs have so many pts to care for, and to use their time witnessing an MD perform an assessment, whether it be head-toe or specific assessments, is just a waste of precious time they could be using elsewhere.
C'mon docbastard, lets be serious... As a surgeon, I'm sure the last time you actually held a stethoscope was intern year. This situation is a classic outpatient primary care visit scenario... Something a typical trauma surgeon probably doesn't do. And yes. Having an MA in the room would make the physical exam less "awkward", And she doesn't have to be there for the entire visit. The physical exam on a typical visit is a max of 3 mins, which is usually pushing it. Also, it's possible OP is wearing much more constricting clothing, has excess soft tissue, denser clothes, or specific pulmonary symptoms that requires a more precise exam. Or the doc is just a pervy prick of a physician with a palate for perky.... pumas.
Dalink - For the record, the last time I used a stethoscope was yesterday. And I plan to use one today as well. I have to know if patients have breath sounds to see if they have a collapsed lung, for example. And ALL of my patients are completely disrobed. You know what they say about assumptions...
I'm probably missing something here, but, from the sound of it I'm guessing OP is a younger girl who's growing and probably had a bra that was too tight or friends who don't have a large chest. My ex had a large chest and the one time I drove her to the docs she handed me her bra before she went in because she didn't want to deal with it inside, she said she always had to undo it for her physicals.
I agree this is very creepy. I'm going out on a limb, thinking that maybe OP is big chested? If her bra is too small and is on way too tightly, it would cause her to not be able to take deep breaths. But he didn't have to ask her to take off her bra. He should have just brought it to her attention.
It's not that odd or creepy. Her bra might have been a style where the strap blocks where his stethoscope needs to be. My boobs are, well, huge; I was a D-cup by 11th grade. My doctor has to have me hold them up to listen to my lungs and heart under them, and she's a hetero friend of mine.
#2 she doesn't need to report him. Many doctors ask their patients to undress etc! Read DocBastards reply to #1. Ive had nurses and doctors ask me to become fully nude to examine me etc. Don't be so quick to judge the doctor just because his procedure may have been different from the other ladies. Also having a RN in the room etc can be allowed to protect the doctors reputation for situations like this. Where some people who dont understand normal doctor procedures cant say they were "violated". Im not saying it doesnt happen but I am saying its better to always be 100% sure opposed to not. You can seriously ruin a doctors life for no reason.
The Doc always asks me to take my shirt off so he can get a better reading, without clothing noises. Pretty sure he's not hitting on me, I've known him for 25 years. I think a lot of the issue here is young women that are so sexualized that they think of everything in a sexual connotation and assume everyone in the world is trying to get in their pants.
#138 - as an RN you should know how to perform a proper respiratory assessment. I was taught to auscultate directly on the skin, to not have any clothing between the patient and the stethoscope. As an ED nurse and an asthma/COPD educator I do many respiratory assessments which involve patients removing their clothing. You come into the ED I work in and the first thing you're asked to do is remove your clothes and put on a gown. As a fellow RN I'm embarrassed that you think its inappropriate for OP to unclasp her bra for her doctor to auscultate AND if you look at OP'S user name, it would imply she went to her doctor for a respiratory ailment!
That's really creepy, I hope you don't see that doctor anymore!
I don't find that weird at all, my doctor always does that. What's weird is that he only did it with you.
walk out of the room asking the nurse of what happen,, make it really awkward for the doctor
Well if OP asked a nurse why she had to remove her bra for a repertory exam she can get the medical reason. If malpractice was going on, then a nurse would know. FYI it is normal for a doctor to ask to remove the bra. I have to when i get my exams done and I have a female doctor.
Considered that maybe your bra was tighter than your friends? Don't always jump to the worst conclusion.
Actually this is fairly common. When in a jhonny you're not even supposed to be wearing a bra but doctors let it slide. You probably are wearing the wrong bra size like most women and it is probably cutting into you. Your friends either take their bra off, are liars, or don't have such a tight band.
Being properly fitted does shit when there is no universal bra size for companies to follow. I've been properly fitted many times and have yet to find a good bra. Some people are cursed to live a life in uncomfortable bras thanks to no one giving a shit about women's comfort.