By blazer - 30/06/2009 00:40 - United States

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Today, my daughter asked me what is the youngest age at which you should start having sex. Being a good mom, I said that she shouldn't have sex until after she's been married. My daughter then said, "Oh... shoot," and walked away. My daughter is twelve. FML
I agree, your life sucks 79 112
You deserved it 14 711

Same thing different taste

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likeanoutlawbayb 0

you should keep a better eye on what your twelve year is doing and who she's hanging around with

@164 - Losing your virginity is a consequence of having sex? Shit I wish I had have known that sooner!!!

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Shame there isn't some sort of program or license you need to pro-create.

I had my first sex at 13. Being 28 now and knowing that I still haven't pro-created yet that means good sex-ed if your best friend.

I agree...I had sex for the first time when I was 14, now I'm 22 and I've never gotten pregnant "by accident" either...and not on purpose either...and I don't plan to for the next 5 years as well... And all the people screaming for abstinence-only sex-ed should check out the numbers in this article, yea it may be from 2001, but I'm sure things haven't changed so drastically that it's all wrong... The US could learn a lot from sex-ed in other countries, because obviously it seems to work better than what they're doing right now... http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=419&Itemid=336

Same here :-) No pregnancies, no STDs, no regrets for having sex with an inadequate person. My mom never said that "wait till marriage", in fact she told me I should live with the person I love for some years before I get married so I won't get surprises later.

She may or may nor have had sex :/ you can't really tell from what she said. Don't freak out

alex_vik 0

Wow, what's with all the people saying teaching abstinence doesn't work? Maybe if you're one of those retard "rebel against society and its rulez1!1!!!!!!" kids it doesn't work, but if you're actually mature it works. I'm living proof of it. Never had sex yet, and don't plan to until I'm married. I've had plenty of chances to, but I'm not going to lower myself that low.

Teaching abstinence ONLY doesn't work. Abstinence is still taught in schools, but teaching ONLY abstinence and not going into birth control methods, STDs, sexually responsible behavior, etc. gets people in trouble. But really...having premarital sex is stooping low? Come on. That's just condescending and rude to those that don't share your beliefs.

cyxx 0

Yaaay thank you #30. What exactly is wrong with abstinence till marriage education? Worked on me! (Well, I'm not married yet but I'm not planning on premarital sex). I mean I guess teaching kids about STDs and such shows that sex isn't all pretty, and I don't see anything *wrong* with teaching them about birth control but why is it necessary? If you successfully teach the abstinence message then why would they need to know about birth control methods in high school?

Well if people didnt have premarital sex, we would need to worry about the AIDS epidemic that is killing hundreds of thousands of people in Africa.

narahiel 0

Because if you don't teach them then, when they are in a structured environment, they will never know where, when, or how to find these things on their own. That said, I'm a 17 year old who's never done anything with anyone, even though my teacher does not teach abstinence-only. She focuses on teaching us about the consequences, control methods, and says that you should be aware of what will happen, should you partake in certain actions.

It's necessary because your philosophy is not what everyone believes. And think about it...do you really want kids that are capable of having sex and procreating to have no knowledge of birth control?

Is that why states that teach abstinence only have the highest STD and teen pregnancy rates? You need to pull your head out of your ass if you think that abstinence only sex-ed is doing any good.

Misosoup 0

Wow. You're a ******* ignoramus. So AIDS was created by people having sex before marriage? It didn't exist before then? HIV comes from SIV, which was given to us by apes.

Neither did my parents. That's where being ugly (yet still liking only pretty girls) came in handy. I would have had underage sex if I could, but I could only manage to "lose it" when I was 19! I'm just lucky that my parents' lack of involvement in teaching me about the birds and the bees didn't let me get a lifelong disease (or even the killer one) or become a father way too soon. But, then again, being ugly gave me relatively few opportunities to screw up. If I were good-looking, I'd probably be dead by now.

cms70 0

Luckily for society, not everyone is a loser like you.

LuxLisbon_fml 0

While that's true hypothetically, I don't think it's at all realistic to expect millions of people to adhere to an absinent lifestyle, even if they say they do. Think about a couple of hundred years back; sex before marriage was hugely taboo in most societies, yet STDs were rife. Why? Because few people practised it in reality - for example, many men would have slept with prostitutes before their wives. There's nothing wrong with individuals choosing to abstain, but to preach that lifestyle as the only option and to expect everyone to be able to follow through, with no education whatsoever about SAFE sex and contraception, is naive and dangerous.

caticaticati 3

I've done SEVERAL reports on abstinence-only versus comprehensive sex education and comprehensive with emphasis on abstinence is far more effective. The US is one of the few countries still trying to rely primarily on abstinence-only and our pregnancy rates and STD rates in teens are much higher than those of other countries. Teaching abstinence is good, but kids need to know about contraceptive options in case they aren't going to remain abstinent.

The problem with abstinence only education is that it's bullshit. It doesn't educate, it forbids, and teenagers are world leaders in doing what's forbidden.

bexox 0

@30 & 68- You may have taken abstinence only sex-ed classes, but I highly doubt they are the reason you decided to remain abstinent. Honestly, are you abstaining to avoid STDs, etc. or because of a religious or moral belief? Many teens don't feel the same way and don't want to make that commitment. Education would allow them info. about their options.

TWELVE!!!!????? What the heck? Jeeze what is it with pre teens of today? This is why I want to teach sex ed using gummy bears and the big (graphically descriptive with lots of pictures) book of std's. lol, if only everyone had my sex ed teacher. He stood in front of the class picking his beer belly bellybutton and talked about vaginal warts. Need I say more? Mom it looks to me like you need to have a chat using google images of nasty std's. Support the wait till your married idea, but keep an open mind and be willing to listen and talk. People don't always wait till they are married so she's got to understand the repercussions and also the importance of protection if she does have sex. Try not to judge. She's obviously open to talking to you if she asked you that. That's a major plus. Best of luck, hope everything goes well. Remember to talk to your daughter.

tallproducer 0

Agreed this is the best advice ive seen on here!Showing her all the risks involved with sex will definitly let her see past the excitement and should buy you some time..

Yeah, if you'd talked to her before, she wouldn't be fooling around. It's your fault. Reign her in before she winds up pregnant!

FMLROCKSMASOCKS 0

hmmm i would put u up for adoption.

car6435 0

number 30. that is like China. plus USA needs to keep a large enough population. plus how would you punish for breaking a law like that. plus invades extremely private matters. plus it would mean being whached and listened to like North Korrea does alot

Abstinence is very possible, I may only be 15, but I have every intention of not having sex until I'm married- of course it's a personal choice. Here's how I view sex before marriage, if you are are okay with and feel ready to take that step, then there's no need to look down upon anyone for that. Personally, I am not ready and know for a fact I will be when I am married into a healthy and stable relationship. I don't expect anyone to share my views and I respect yours. As long as your desicions don't hurt others and you're okay with it then I can respect it.

likeanoutlawbayb 0

we have a large enough population. i don't think we need anymore people living off of welfare because they couldn't keep their legs closed and they can't get a job.

I respect your views but why do you want to wait until you're married? Is this because of your religious beliefs or do you want to save yourself for "the special one"? Do you honestly thing there will be only one "special one"? Because honestly, I have almost everytime I had a good relationship thought that she would be "the one".

Argh, don't know why I misspell 'think' all the time today :-(

cyxx 0

Uhh I think the point is that her kids AREN'T supposed to be sexually active by 15. Yes, relationships are great. There are such things as relationships without sex, especially in middle and high school. I'm sure sex is great too, but you have the rest of your life for it. It's a bad idea to have sex at such a young age because a lot of the time the kid ends up regretting it. The decision making centers of your brain don't even develop until age 21-ish, and the decision to have sex is a pretty big one.

arienh4 0

"The decision making centers of your brain don't even develop until age 21-ish"? Well, I can tell your brain isn't fully developed, but that's something else. I don't know where you got this bullshit but that's definitely not true.

Boring. Lost it when I was 15. OP: your girl is close to being a teenager. It's only natural she starts thinking about sex. Educate her if you haven't (and it sounds like you haven't). Education != encouragement. Make sure she knows the dangers. Buy her some condoms, and if she's really considering, birth control. You can't control every minute of her life, so she will eventually find a way to have sex if she wants it. Every teenager does.

cyxx 0

No it doesn't. It makes her a mother who wants her kids to be responsible with their bodies and their emotions. Sexual feelings are normal, yes, but just because you have sexual feelings doesn't mean you have to act on them and have sex.

Uhhh...when you say "penis-in-****** sex" it makes you sound like those idiots who thinks they're still a virgin after anal or oral because it isn't "real sex." Those people need to crawl under a rock and die.

Agree with #129. Oral and anal sex do both count as real sex, and you're not a virgin after either one.

People end up "regretting it" because our society has put sex on a pedestal. I mean honestly, it's just a biological need, like using the bathroom, so why is it that our world looks at it through such a Victorian lens?

WearingHats 14

This stuff in teens make them horny, so they go down to the clubs and pick up some honeys and bang em' But when they get older (21 or so) the stuff is mostly gone and they aren't as horny anymore. I hope that is dumbed down enough for you, there are some pretty big words in there.

WearingHats 14
cyxx 0

I'm not the OP, but who says there isn't a "special one"? The "special one" is the person that you are emotionally committed to enough to want to spend the rest of your life with them, and most couples confirm that commitment through marriage. That emotional commitment is what I'm waiting for before I commit myself physically. :)

It's a combination of both (religion and "special one") actually. I've seen my friends date guys that the feel are "the one" and end up really hurt when they realize he wasn't after having put a lot of their heart into the relationship too. They feel something new and special with each new guy, but I hate seeing the hurt they've been through after. (the sex has a lot to do with it as well) I know it will truely be the "special one" once I have that security of marriage. The real "one" will be willing to commit to marriage, I guess it's my personal way of being sure. Many may argue, well hurt is inevitable you can't avoid that, and I'm aware. I plan on being in other relationships to see what works. However, the main cause of hurt I've seen with my friends is due to the sex, so I'm going to avoid at least that aspect of it. And above all, I am just not ready mentally.

You're very mature for 15. It's great to see someone on here express their views in such a polite, honest and respectful way. Good on you!

arienh4 0

So not only are you going to get hurt, you're going to make it cost you as well. Divorces are very common and very costly, you know.

Love exists, and I firmly believe I won't be getting married unless I've found it. I hope you find love too.

Prawn_fml 2

Being willing to commit does unfortunately not make anyone 'the one'. Truth is that marriage takes work to succeed, and both parts need to be willing to work on it, to compromise, to give and to take. Even if you don't want the sex part before it, you might want to consider living with the person you think is the one for a good while, to find out if you can live with them in the long run, to find out if they are compatible. As for sex though... are you willing to accept what your future 'one' might enjoy or not enjoy? Are you sure the one will accept whatever (lack of) fetishes or kinks you might have?

I think you misunderstood what I meant by "the one being willing to commit" ofcourse that's not the only attribute I'd look for to determine if someone is my "one". I've never been in love so I can't speak with much experience or wisdom; however, I'm aware marriage will take a lot of work. As for accepting my husband's sexual preferences (and mine), if the love is there sex will only enhance it. By that, I mean I would be willing to accept and he would reciprocate. As for living together before marriage, I don't think I mentioned my thoughts about that, if the right conditions exist I think it would be a great oppurtunity to learn more about how life would be with that potential life partner. My main point of all this is the factor that real love exists in the marriage I have in mind, a lot of you may argue that I may not really be in love, marry, and end up hurt blah blah blah. Let me handle that, I'm sure once the time comes I'll be able to distinguish whether or not I'm in love. I respect your thoughts, and you share valid points for me to consider. Once again, I do not look down upon sex before marriage-- I love and support my friends who have. Knowing my emotions and sensitivity, it would not be a wise choice for me personally to make.

Prawn_fml 2

Then I have no quarrel with you, whatsoever, Megatron-sike. Best of luck in your life, you sound like you got it figured!

boatkicker 4

If she even knows about it? seriously? Open your eyes. Turn on the tv. Pick any channel thats not geared to kids. I'm sure if you watch it long enough you're going to find some sex, at least people talking about it. At twelve kids start watching "grown up" shows. By that age you're a little more mature than Dora the Explorer. Go for a walk down in the main shopping area in your town. Any sex stores nearby? Now go to a school. My school started sex ed. at the end of fourth grade. I was 10. Now go to the cafeteria in that school. I'm sure you'll find at least one group of kids talking about sex. That doesnt necessarily mean they've had it, but its deffintely something they talk about, and joke about, and think about, wonder about, etc. It's there. So unless she's going to keep her child locked in the house for her whole life, and not let her watch tv, or have a computer, she's going to know about sex by the time she's 12. Probably even by the time she's 10.

at 12???? Kids should be taught about sex when they're 6 or 7. I hate to break it to you, but a 12 year old girl is most likely going through puberty at that point. You should hope that your children aren't so damaged by your poor parenting that they think the pull out method is a good idea.

purupuru 1

My mom told me the basics about sex and waiting when I was in third grade, I was about seven or eight years old. A few years later my older cousins went into greater detail, because one of them had done it, and they thought that when I was in middle school and getting closer to high school, I should be more informed. Although, it was a bit late by then, I had been watching enough TV and been on the internet long enough to know what it was... in great detail. By twelve years old I knew everything I needed to know, hell, I know twelve year olds NOW that know just as much as I do, and I'm sixteen.

bollywood_rocks 0

Plus as we have seen,most marriages last an average of 5yrs before they start going downhill. So,um would that be one or multiple committed relationships?

lmmmr 0

MegatronSIKE- I agree with you wholeheartedly. You are a very smart girl, and you seem to have your ideals and standards perfectly in check. I hope it all works out well for you. :)

dramakat11 0

Exactly!!! Don't you want to be the person she turns to when she's confused and in need? For all of those who wholeheartedly believe that waiting until marriage is the right thing to do, I know you will tell this to your kids. But just realize that your son or daughter may not share your views, and let them know that you are always there to talk. Even if they don't make the "best" decisions in your mind, don't you hope they will make the "second best" decision--waiting until they are older and in a committed relationship and ABOVE ALL using protection. I would even educate my children about free STD clinics and tell them that if they decide to have sex with their bf/gf that I will personally take them both to get tested beforehand. Also, it may be a good idea to put your daughter on birth control even if she's not having sex. For me, birth control gave me shorter, lighter periods and got rid of most of my symptoms including agonizing cramps. Before I went on the pill, I was doubled over screaming into a pillow once a month.

jnic 0

Hey, thanks. :) Such a good point. So many parts of my teenage years have been crap because I haven't been able to go to my mom for things like this, since she's really conservative. If I had a mother figure I cold have gone to after the guy I lost my virginity to broke my heart, it probably would have made SUCH a difference for me. I dunno about the birth control thing, though. Hormonal pills can be a deal medically and they don't have the same effects on every woman's body and menstrual cycles. Sometimes it can result in really crazy mood imbalances or menstrual bleeding for weeks on end... sometimes even blood clots. A woman can spend months switching pill brands until she finds the right one for her body. I don't think most 12-year-olds are physically ready to take on a new stream of hormones or mentally ready for the responsibility of taking a pill at the same time every day. Also, not every girl has such horrible periods that need to be fixed, it sucks that yours were like that though. :( I say just hand her some condoms, which do both the deed of pregnancy prevention and STD prevention. I think it's a good tool for beginners, to cover all the bases at once. HBC can come later, if her daughter feels it's right for her.

boatkicker 4

Eh. I know a lot of people who have had condom babies. Most girls dont react badly to birth control, but some do. They can also cause nausea and vomiting. Which is never fun. But nausea usually goes away if you keep taking them for a while.

jnic 0

Yeah, this is true. But at the same time, my life experience has led me to not depend on the pill because I can't take any form of hormonal birth control for medical reasons. So I understand anyone who isn't on the pill, whatever their reason might be. I've been sexually active for a year now, and the condom is my only choice. If you put it on right every time and it doesn't break, chances are it'll work fine for you, like it has for me. And there's always plan B. Not ideal, I would be on the pill if I could, believe me... but at least I have this option.

dramakat11 0

You are very mature and I respect you a lot even though I strongly believe that abstinence until marriage is probably usually a bad idea. I respect you so much because you respect others and you acknowledge that there are always two sides to every argument and that there are always exceptions and "what-ifs" and the possibility that one decision can be right in one situation and another decision can be right in another. What works for one person may not work for another person. You are a real sweetie. Much love. :)

bexox 0

MegatronSIKE - I'm glad you've thought things through. It's good to see someone who has thought through their decisions, whatever, they may be. I think you'll be able to come to some great compromises in your future relationships!