you should keep a better eye on what your twelve year is doing and who she's hanging around with

it could just mean that she wants to have sex...not that shes done it..

maybe she just wanted to have sex later not now dont asume. just tell her "did you have sex? you can tell me evrything." if she says yes in a calm voice tell her the consequences of having sex like babys, loosing your virginity, etc.

it could also mean she was planning to have it if her mother hadn't told her otherwise.

I agree with 175.
It could (and probably did) mean that she wanted to have sex, if not when she's 12 then when she's 16 or 17, at which point she probably wouldn't be married.

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@164 - Losing your virginity is a consequence of having sex? Shit I wish I had have known that sooner!!!

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Oh, come on. Right now, telling her to save it for marriage is not "being a good mother" anymore. If you really want to help your daughter so she doesn't do anything stupid, you have to talk to her and guide her on why it is necessary to be responsible and mature when it comes to sex. Telling her she just has to wait until marriage will make it worse because, let's face it, it's really NOT going to happen that way. So it's better if she at least knows when she is really ready to do it and how to make things right.

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It could work that she would wait for marriage. I, for one, am doing just that and it's not hard even when you have a boyfriend.

i think there is a double standard. parents are usually more protective of their daughters than sons. I know i will be when i am a parent. but a FML if he daughter had sex at 12 and YDI for not telling your daughter to be safe if she doesnt want to wait until she gets married.

if she says yes, telling her that losing your virginity is a consequence is a bit of a moot point...

I'm pretty sure that a "good mother" would know a little bit more about her 12 year old...especially in the relationship/friends/sexual activity department. Be more mindful of your children!

She shouldn't know what sex is? She's 12, not a toddler. A lot of kids go through puberty before they're 12, they should probably know a few things before that. Children should learn about sex early, not fully detailed at first of course, but at least know the basics and what it's for. People like you piss me off. The way to prevent people from making mistakes is not to pretend that it doesn't exist, it's to educate as much as possible so they can make the correct decisions for themselves.

I agree with #95. It's very unlikely she's already had sex (I mean she's 12, that would just be disgusting!) but she clearly doesn't agree with you telling her to only have sex after marriage. I hate the whole "no sex before marriage" thing anyway. It's really old-fashioned, and who wants to have sex with only one person in their whole life? How is that living?

You probably should have given her a better answer. 16 or 18 (depending on where you live) is the usual age of consent.

losing your virginity is a consequence of sex the first time.
and its not like they hymen cant be broken by physical activity. Some people are even born without it. In some instances it is impossible to prove if one is a virgin or not.

yeah for real, i mean obviously she hasnt had sex, she was just expressing that she wants to

295-i hope you are joking. how would that even be possible in todays society? when do you think kids should learn about sex?

Really? Thats weird! I knew what sex was when I was no younger than 7! Its natural to have questions. She could have just been curious...?

I'm 12 and I know exactly what she is thinking anyway there r girls in my class who already lost their virginty and give guys blowjobs they whatch porn and everything well most of the school
And OP trust me u don't wanna know what she's thinking it's way more word then what u think we have a 13 year old in r school who is prenant!!

Yep. And that's not a rare occurence either. It's scary the percentage of girls who decide to have sex at age 12/13 these days, often because "everybody else is talking about it too!" D: Of all reasons to do it, that's gotta be the worst.

OP, unless you have a good and level-headed talk with her, it WILL happen. If you think she'll wait for the marriage without being given any reasons, dream on. Peer pressure might have her doing it long before that.

one of my really good friends lost her virginity at 11 or 12.
shes a big whore now [were14], but still... its not unheard of.

Your daughter is really cute. lol.

ok. #295. i knew about it when i was like 10! what rock have you been hiding under. people need to know about this sooner because of how people are today.

also, im 14 now, and there were 13 year olds in my school pregnant last year. and even more this year.
i get the whole "wait till your married" thing. i plan on doing such,

so just cross your fingers that your daughter hasn't already done it with someone because come on, shes 12! that just crazy... and as much as i hate it when my parents do it, you need to be careful of who she hangs out with and how much "alone time" she gets with a guy.

People need to be realistic. Whoever said she's only 12 and shouldn't know what sex is, is living in a fantasy world. At that age even health in school discusses it. If you aren't educating your children about sex they are learning it at school from friends anyway. She does need a good long talk. Pregnancy isn't the only thing that happens. There are STD's too. She needs to understand that if she has sex with someone then she's having sex with every person they've had sex with and so on. Did I wait until I was married? No. Do I regret it? No, but I was educated and really had strong feelings for him. I was also safe because my mother told me to be and didn't wake up the next morning worrying about being pregnant or having caught something. Not discussing these things at that age is just sheer stupidity. You're not a bad mother because obviously she felt comfortable coming to you in the first place about this. The door is open and the next step is yours. Just don't alienate her by telling her she's too young, which she is, and telling her not to think about it because she's going to think about it, but she can come to you when it happens if you open the door for that kind of relationship now.

@295 WHAT KIND OF TWELVE YEAR OLD DOESN'T KNOW WHAT SEX IS!!?!?!?!?!?!?

my parents told me what sex was when I was ten, I learned what it was when I was nine, and my school gave us sex-ed classes when I was eleven and had sex at sixteen!!! what age do you live in?

I'm not saying 12-year olds WANT to have sex or are interested in it (then again, I'm not saying that they aren't), I'm just saying that most do, and all should, know what sex IS.(I can just imagine a fourteen y-o saying "sex? whats that? i think i heard somebody say it on tv or something...")

why should she wait for marriage? obviously she's too young now, but waiting until you're married to have sex is a fucking crazy idea.

you should embrace this ! it saves you having to have the talk with her:)

what tha hell is wrong with ur school

So when's the baby due?

it's actually a 5th and 6th grade requirement to have studied health in California. this means that you would be learning that stuff when you were 11 and sometimes 10. just saying..

295, ther is a 6th grader in my school system tht is pregnant. stop living in th goddam 20th century

hey I've seen a similar fml that said that her daughter asked her how old her mom was when she lost her virginity && the daughter said beat yaaa && the daughter was also 12. sooo I think this is fake >.<

do you see and hear what goes on at schools today..?

take it froma 12 yr old everyone does it it doesnt matter who u hang out wit or wateva

u should c wat they show us in skool and it would b weird if 12 yr olds didnt no wat sex is

I agree with the sex before marriage thing, and how it's unlikely for most, but your comment annoyed me a little. "..and who wants to have sex with one person in their whole life? How is that living?" Having sex with one person can be a very good thing, actually. It reduces the risk of getting an STD. I, myself, am actually saving my virginity for one person who I love dearly. It's quite stupid to think one is not living when they only have sex with one person. Whores have sex with multiple people. That is, if the sex is with many different people, and pretty constant. But either way, you are living perfectly fine if you are having sex with just one person, or plan on it.

Uhh no, she should know what sex is by 12 years old!

it's probably pretty hard for the boyfriend.

hahh hahh all
these people are saying they learned what sex was when they were like nine, ten..
I learned about it when I was 5..
I'd always ask questions and Id get answers. my parents didnt hide that stuff from me.
I was a really curious little girl...

oh and the comment saying its probably pretty hard for the boyfriend was directed to #298

484- THANK YOU. That's what I was thinking. Is this what out world has come to? You can't live a fulfilling life unless you have sex with more than one person? I don't mind people having sex with whomever they want, but to say I don't have a fulfilling life because I want to experience sex with only one man is ludicrous!

Ok listen, I agree with 333 just because she is 12 doesn't mean she shouldn't know. I don't know why people Treat kids her age like 4 year olds! " she shouldn't know about sex, puberty, drugs, Facebook, alcohol, Instagram, fighting, and stuff like that. They learn about it in 5th grade in Maryland

I have known what sex is since I was 6

419- We aren't saying she has to wait until marriage to have sex. She should because if she has sex now and tells the father, whoever the father is will abandon her to leave her and the unborn baby to take care of themselves. If she gets married and then has sex and gets pregnant, the husband will stay with her because he loves her enough to have a child with her.

There is no legal age. just and adult can't have sex with a minor.

Amen 298!!

I cannot believe kids these days!this is so damn mind blowing..im glad i had a boy LOL

what does it matter that you had a boy? he can still have sex

His daddy will be doing all the sex talks!

Being 19 and having a kid, you shouldn't really be talking.

WTF is your problem? i meant mind blowing as in i do not wanna go thru that(seeing as how i have a kid and will have to at some point,i wasnt putting no on down). And having sex at 19 is a HUGE difference from having sex at 12!IF you think its not that your the retard. Shes in what middle school?i at least waited till i finished high school!i swear all the people on this site just come here to fight with people.

yeah but being a 19 year old mother isnt really good..
you should at least be the legal drinking age

Having a child at 19 is pretty sad still. You're 19, you're a year out of highschool and you've done nothing with your life worth mentioning. Even at 19, a person is not emotionally capable of having a child. You should've gone to college or SOMETHING, but you probably couldn't given how bad your writing sucks. I feel sorry for your kid.

Children having children is a beautiful thing. :sarcasm:

Excuse me but i beg to differ, BRINGING LIFE INTO THIS WORLD IS SOMETHING!!so i don't do things the "normal" way according to you but sorry i don't live to please you either!and how would you know what Ive done with my life since you know nothing about me???I actually do go to college,im taking summer classes to be a R.N. I work and take care of my son!Thank you very much!

I guess it's just more worrying when you have a girl cos she could get pregnant or whatever

Do you even know that girl? Who are you to say she's done nothing with her life?! She's most likely a great mother and you have no right to say that she's not emotionally capable to have a child or anything. Don't be so quick to judge

Don't let the haters get you down, sweets! You sound like a great woman and you should be really proud that you did the right thing and are acting responsibly. Bringing new life into this world is the most worthwhile thing a person could do, more worthwhile than college or any job or any accomplishment (even though you're doing all those things too), and certainly more worthwhile than going "clubbing" each night.

Only society tells us that 19 is young to have kids. In many cultures, it is typical and normal for girls to have kids at 14-15. But even regardless of that, no one has the right to tell someone else that he or she is too young to have kids.

Wow, by your reasoning every woman should pop out babies because it's the most worthwhile thing to do with their lives,eh? Never mind that in some cases, the state AKA taxpayers are the ones taking care of the brats.
If you want to be a baby machine,that's fine and dandy BUT PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU CAN AFFORD THE BRATS. If not, it is not worthwhile because then I'm the one paying for it(along with other taxpayers). Wanna do something MORE worthwhile? ADOPT!

I think she should ask her daughter what she thinks sex means.
And then explain that it is not something you should do whit everyone, guy/girls that she really loves and wants to spent her whole life whit.
But the kid probably just heart the word sex on TV and was like wow that’s the cool new thing to do whit out knowing what it is.

#145 I'm pretty sure at 12 kids know what sex means, you get STD education at the end of the year, they explain sex (since it's transmitted that way). And at 12 most of them even masturbate and watch porn. I think you haven't been around this new generation much :|

I'm sure you're the type of person that believes women should stay at home and have kids and cook and clean and the men should be the ones out working. Way to go. I think we're officially back in 1950. Get real lady, and I hope your son doesn't get some poor girl pregnant because his mother didn't give him the sex talk.

I beg to differ. My mom was 18 when she had me, married, and was a wonderful mother.
I was 20 and married when I had my first child.
Some 19 year olds aren't mature enough to have children, others are. Way to generelize.
And also, I DID wait until I was married to have sex. There is nothing wrong with it, in fact, its a very worthwhile goal. It cuts down on emotional baggage between a married couple if there are no other partners in the past, promises that there will be no STDS and if you don't have sex before you are married, then you will NEVER, EVER, have a child out of wedlock. in what way can that be anything but good?

Oh, 159 give her a break. She's 19 and had a child and actually thought it was an excellent choice. She honestly has no idea what she was and still doing with her and her child. Just don't expect a great child from such poor choices from her mother.

first off, us kids are NOT "brats" we are humans too, and if that is how you see kids than you should never have kids, just saying

That isn't necessarily true. My S.O. and I definitely had other partners, but it brings NO emotional baggage to our relationship. We are well aware what is in the past is in the past. I don't sit here and mourn that he was with other women. If anything it helped him grow. Id rather be witha guy whos been in serious relationships in the past than one who hasn't. You learn a lot from past relationships.

Anyway. I think the OP is pretentious. "I told her to wait till marriage like a good mother." WTF does that mean. Does that mean mothers who don't tell their kids to wait for marriage are bad mothers? What a crock of shit. My mother actually told me not to wait for marriage. The difference though with my mom and most other moms is a) we have a very open relationship in which I can discuss anything I need to with her openly, regardless of the consequences and b) because of that open relationship I was able to discuss birth control options, sex, relationships, etc. I'm protected because I had a realistic and proactive mother. Sounds likea better mom than one who tells a kid to wait till marriage and then puts that kind of pressure on a child (especially in todays society) and then doesn't talk about it. You know what happens when a parent tells a kid the only acceptable time to have sex is when you're married? The child doesn't go to the parent because they dont feel like they can talk to them and they get themselves into messes because they are uneducated about it.

A friend put it a really good way. If you can't deal with the consequences of sex (and that includes talking to your parents, or an adult if you cant go to your parents) then you shouldn't be having it. I think i fyou have to question i fyou are ready, they you aren't ready.

Agreed, Monkey. I mean, if you're questioning it and you do it anyway, you'll probably get into a lot of trouble, including having regrets.

And as far as having a child ("bringing life into this world") being the most worthwhile goal, I would disagree completely... it would depend on the person...

P.S.- I don't think that, considering she said she had a job and was going to college, she is of the 1950s mindset. It's just far easier for a woman to explain womanly things, because they have first person experience; same for men. I'm not saying everybody should do it, but a lot of women don't feel comfortable informing their sons/friends/brothers/what have you how their body works, even if they know a lot about it. Same goes for men and their daughters/etc.; it's a personal thing.

And for the record, it isn't right or wrong to have children at 19 based on culture, it's all dependent on the people HAVING the children. Unfortunately, a lot of people aren't ready when they think they are, and a lot more people have "accidents," (or a combination therein) so we have a lot of bad rep going on for young parents. I don't ever want to have children of my own, but I respect the people who do if I feel that they can handle it.

OP- ...............wow. There are so many things disturbing about that to me.

sweets1218- Regardless of your personal life, your comment was increidbly ignorant. The age that boys have sex is statistically much, much younger than girls, and to suggest that it is less his responsibility if the girl gets pregnant is absolutely ludacrous. If I were you, I would simply hope that whether you have a boy or a girl, that they turn out to be responsible and rational and not rush into bed in their teens.

You read way to much into that buddy!

If i thought only men should why we i be going to school to become a nurse? Which is a very respectable career,what do you do? Sit on here and talk shit about other peoples lives??

Lol sweets is acting ignorant... If the statistical age that boys have sex are "much, much" lower, then who do they have sex with? Girls that are 5 + years older than them? You're 19 and you have a child. So what that you're in school? It's still a burden because if you have to juggle school, kids and work you're gonna be overloaded.

HONESTLY I DONT EXPECT YOU TO UNDERSTAND IF YOU DONT HAVE A KID(S). AND IF YOU DO THEN I SEE WHY YOU FEEL THE WAY YOU DO(ITS NOT EASY TO BE YOUNG AND A PARENT)AND I WOULDNT WANT MY KID HAVING TO GO THROUGH THAT EITHER

BUT FOR ONE-ITS HARD NO MATTER WHAT AGE YOU ARE. I DONT THINK ANYONE KNOWS WHAT TO EXPECT.

TWO-YES I DO THINK ITS THE MOST 'WORTHWHILE" THING I COULD DO.I COULD BE AN R.N AND ACHIEVE ALL I WANT BUT IT WILL NEVER MEAN AS MUCH TO ME AS HAVING A KID. iF YOU DONT HAVE A KID(S) THEN YOU DONT KNOW HOW IT FEELS. SO YOU REALLY SHOULDNT COMMENT ON ANYTHING I HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE THATS JUST IGNORANT.A BABY IS ALWAYS A BLESSING. AND FOR ALL THE MONEY HUNGRY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT COMPLAIN THEYRE TAKING CARE OF SOMEONES KID. YOU SHOULD THINK OF IT THAT WAY.

THREE-WHEN I SAID HIS DADDY WILL HAVE THAT TALK-YOU ALL READ WAY WAY TO MUCH INTO THAT DAMN I WAS MAKING A COMMENT. THAT WILL BE WHAT 11 YEARS FROM NOW? AND YOU THINK BECAUSE I WROTE IT DOWN ILL NEVER CHANGE MY MIND? I HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE HOW I WILL RAISE MY KID. IF YOU DONT LIKE IT GO HAVE YOUR OWN,THEN YOU CAN CONTROL SOMETHING.

AND FOR YOU INFO I GRADUATED WHEN I WAS 17 AND I TURN 20 THIS YEAR. AND IM A DAMN GOOD MAMA. MY BABY HAS A HOME,IS BREASTFEED AND HAPPY!!!
SO RUN AT THE MOUTH CAUSE YOUR REALLY MAKING ME THE TOPIC OF THIS WHOLE FML

Uh oh, Caps = SERIOUS BUSINESS!

I'm sorry, you have every right to have your opinion and live life the way you see fit, and I wish you all the luck in the world with your degree and your son, but I can't take anyone seriously who has to resort to posting in all caps to get their point across.

LOL 19?!?!!?!

Welcome to life, it's about to get a whole lot worse for you.

sweets.. a nurse should be able to communicate a little better than your skills, retake english while you're in what is probably a very prestigious college. (that means very nice and distinguished if you didn't know)... and you sure showed them by calling them out for being on this site instead of working since you've posted way more times

Eh, I hate all caps but considering how many jerks are jumping on you, I can't blame you for it.

It's your right to believe that having a kid is the best thing in the world as long as you realize that's just the experience for YOU, and it usually isn't the case for most people. I think that is what you meant, so you're headed in the right direction.

Also, I hate that everyone is assuming that just because you love your son and feel he is a blessing, that you must have purposely decided you were ready to have a baby at 19. The teenage girls I know who accidentally end up with babies are all really happy with their children... if this wasn't the case, they would have gotten abortions or opted for adoption instead, duh.

I'm sorry you're getting attacked by all these presumptuous assholes. :( Nobody has a right to judge somebody just because they are a young mother. So many teenagers are having sex, and pregnancy can happen to ANYONE, not just stupid whores who throw their lives away. You sound like a great mother who's willing to work hard and make sacrifices. I really admire you for deciding to get your life together, instead of just giving up like so many young moms do. It's wonderful that you've decided to make the best of a not so easy situation. I wish the best of luck to you.

#137 - Don't throw your blame on the girls who receive this funding. If I for any reason at all could take advantage of some program and get free funding you can bet I'd do it... I'd be foolish not to. Blame the government for offering it. And almost all women who have kids do not receive funding.

jeez you guys ARE really mean. i will back sweet up a 100%. i'm 19 as well and i don't have kids..but it says a lot to actually keep you're child when you're that young. she is the one who decided to have sex and she owned up to the consequences and actually kept her child. i'm sure her son is one of the most important people in her lives. being 19 probably isn't the best age to have children but it doesn't mean she isn't capable of loving her child. if you talk to your grandparents or great grandparents most of them had children and were married by the time they were 16. it was a lot different back then as well but it's just saying age has nothing to do with how you love and care for your child.

well congratss on you going to college and everytthing :)
there is a girl who graduated at my school last year and she has a daughter. she came back this year to do Co-op and like she got 90s and everything when she was pregnant and after she had her daughter. She is going off to university

So to #40 it is possible to go to college/university and have a child at a younger age (like 16,17,18 etc). How would you know if #45 isnt going to college which she just stated that she is going to college, so shut your fucking mouth #40.

to 139, I am 20 and am TRYING to have a child with my HUSBAND. I don't feel it is necessary to be of the drinking age to have a child because I don't drink. Nor does my husband. It's not always about age. It's about responsibility. I have been taking care of children since I was 8, having 4 younger siblings, plus babysitting for other family members, neighbors, etc. I love children, know how to care for them, and I am married and we are ready for a child. Financially as well because my husband is going in the air force so most living expenses are taking care of. And don't now give me lectures about living off the government because I'm not. This is not welfare, it is job benefits. If he wasn't in the air force, we would wait for kids, but since we can handle it now, it is what we want and what we will do. And not all mothers under 21 are bad, nor are they all incapable in many ways.

As for the OP, Wow. I hate that children are having sex so young these days!!! Even if your daughter hasn't had sex yet, just wanting to at 12 is not a good thing. My best friend is like my little sister. She's 15 and she amazingly has not had sex. Even most of the people in her church youth group have done it and they are mostly younger than her. And all the guys are trying to get her to as well. It amazes me. Not in a good way. I am really glad she has a good head on her shoulders, or I would be having constant panic attacks. I get big sister duty tonight because she is going mini golfing with an almost-18 year old. A sexually active almost-18 year old. To my happiness, she asked me to come with her. I am going to be watching him like a freakin hawk. I am sorry for the predicament you are in OP. But talk to your daughter. See what's up. If she is having sex, try to stay calm, and explain to her the benefits of waiting. Well...do that even if she isn't having sex!!! But if she is, try to find out who she is hanging out with and monitor her a bit. I'm not calling you a bad parent in the least, not everyone is able to know what their children are doing or who they are with, children are very deceiving, (my parents almost never knew what I was up to as a teenager), but try to find out more. And good luck!!!

#209 - MonkeySpeaks - I disagree with part of what you said. At 12 years of age, it should be put out of kids heads until they are somewhat older. Telling them you have to wait until they are married is a good thing, but in a couple years, it might seem like a better idea to educate them, obviously.

haha that was actually for #40 not 137

okay actually it was for 39, 40, AND 137. lol.

Oh, so little girls are little whores that you have to keep one thumb on all the time! Wouldn't want them running off and fucking every guy in sight since that's all they think about and are good for!

Ignorant.

While I'm not judging your ability to be a good mother based on your age, your statement that bringing new life into this world is the most worthwile thing a person can do is incredibly biased and untrue.

What about all of the people working hard every day to find new medicines or new treatments to care for severe medical conditions? There are people working every day to save the lives of thousands.

I personally am going into the medical research field, and it offends me that all of my work and effort is being undervalued simply because I would rather dedicate myself to my chosen profession than choose to have children.

having a boy is better? we think about 3 things- money, food, and bitches

Lol ok? I'd love to see the look on your face when your son tells you he got a girl pregnant.

wow! you should ask her politely if she has done it and tell her she can be open to you about anything! but wait a few days so it's not so awkward. lol

leave her alone!! if she wants to have a kid at 19 oh well!! that's her problem, NOT urs!! and stay out of her life! you don't know what's going on! STFU!

I agree!! I am 17 and children are not "brats" if you called us a "brat" then obviously your one yourself!! STFU! get over yourself!

Not all kids are brats. You see that one kid throwing a tantrum in the grocery store, doesn't not mean all kids are brats. Besides, rotten children are a result of poor parenting.

And college is easier with no children to look after, but when I was in college, I saw alot of students (who had no kids) NOT take college seriously. They skipped class, didn't study and spent most weekends partying. I finished my master's degree while juggling being a mom, taking care of the house, and being married. When I was single, I was not ready for college, I was immature and didn't have the money to comfortably live on my own, pay for college, bills, car, gas...etc
I started college at age 23 when I had more money from a good job and could afford school.

What's wrong with sex? Why is it so taboo? it helps a species survive and it's one of the best pleasures in life. Religion and politics morph sex into something that's bad, when it's not.

good for you. I think that what your doing is really great and im sure your son appreciates it. most young mothers will either give their child up for adoption or get an abortion. good for you for doing what you think is right and still getting an education

Just so you know, your grammar sucks.

I get what you're saying but the way u put it wasn't the greatest. And yeah you have a kid at 19 a lot of people have them before that and it's already happened so people should get over it!:)

You are a twit.

number three!!!
that doesn't mean she's had sex. it just means that she thought otherwise

my 13 year old cousin is pregnant. she has fucked every guy she meets up with

Do your aunt and uncle actually watch her?

I'm sorry, but she's somewhat of a whore…

doesn't exactly mean she's having sex...

Exactley! She could just be disappointed mum wants her wait so long!

That's what I was thinking. Though telling her to wait 'till marriage wasn't the best thing to say in my opinion. In this society only a few of us wait so long and I do not understand either why you should wait so long.

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I agree. Telling kids they should wait until marriage to have sex will just result in their getting married before they're sure they're marrying the right person.

Ha! That's kind of my thoughts on the matter. Most of those people who are "wait til marriage" types get married between 18-22, before their lives are really secure.

Just because someone gets married young doesnt mean their lives aren't secure.

And im response to something I feel is implied but not directly stated (forgive me if I'm reading into this too much):
Also doesnt mean the marriage is about sex.

Shortshan didn't say that people who get married early don't have secure lives; she said that people under the age of twenty-two don't have secure lives yet. Which is almost always true.

My point was that people who think it's not okay to have sex before marriage may get married before they're sure it's the right thing to do, just so that they can have sex. Marriage SHOULDN'T just be about sex, but telling your kids that they can't have sex until they're married could result in just that.

Yeah I know it can result in that, but My point was that not all marriages that happen before the people at 22 doesnt mean that they are in any way unstable. Of course its not right to get married just to have sex, thats ridiculous and stupid.

Idk. Maybe I'm just over reacting. It's just the age on there that bothered me. Whats wrong with getting married between teh ages of 18-21? I'm 18, engaged, living with my fiancee. We are not relying on our parents for support. We have jobs to pay for our apartment. We're both going to college, and I'm paying my way through (he just got a scholarship that'll take care of this next year for him) We're both extremely happy.

basically I guess I'm just saying that the age vs. Marriage thing is a tender spot for me. I'm sick of being told it's wrong, when it's right for me. Tying young marriage to abstinence gives it even more negative publicity. Its not young marriage that is wrong. It's the fact that so many young marriage are formed because
1) Girl got knocked up adn wanted to marry baby-daddy
or
2) One was waiting til marriage and wanted to have sex.

No one ever looks at any other reason

AND NOW THAT MY RANT IS OVER
I have discovered that it's completely irrelevant to the actual conversation.

Marriage might not be about sex but you and 99% of the human population knows that no one will be truly happy with someone that can't match their expectations in bed. Test drive before you lie. Doesn't mean go be a slut and marry the guy/girl that's amazing in bed though. To be honest, human instinct is sexual and the only other thong is to eat. No animal is mention to be tied down to one sexual being. Mainly leaving us with a high percentile in divorce rate because it is now socially more acceptable to do so when woman started hitching about their rights now today making men look and seem like so called pigs. Marriage I suppose in the end is a garbage way to feel important for a short time and a want to change then later realizing that it wasn't such a good idea. The people that are still married today are either early into ten years at most or old and have been married for over thrifty plus years. Be smart. Make sure he or she is the one. That's all folks. Dr. Phil moment, out!

Disregard that entire statement. IPhones make people look like idiots and apparently spelling correct words still have no effect and iPhones still want to correct words in their own way. If it were my phone I'd get a droid.

Saying you shouldn't have sex until after you're married doesn't make you a bad mother either. U don't know what else she's planning on teaching her kid about sex or that this is her only message to her daughter. Don't be so quick to judge.

I don't agree with the statement that you need to "test drive". You do realise that just because your partner was bad in bed, it doesn't mean that they will never improve and your relationship is completely ruined because you're "sexually incompatible"? It's not sex that makes people incompatible in bed, it's the lack of communication. OF COURSE the person you waited until marriage to have sex with was bad at your first go, i believe most people ARE bad at it the first time (they either don't know or don't admit it). Just because it's instinct to know how to have sex, doesn't mean it's instinct to know how to be good; that depends on your partner. Talking with your partner and explaining what you do and don't like will make your experience better over the long run; "test driving" is not mandatory.

I'd say wait until your a legal adult. The whole marriage thing is either a religious thing or a formality at this point

So.

Nicely put. =/

Really??

You should sit and talk to her about it. It could all be a misunderstanding and if it isn't then you should warn her of all the possibilities of having sex....pregnancy, STD's, etc.

lol bullshit much

Assuming she's having sex with peers and not pedophiles.

Hahahaha

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Telling your daughter that she shouldn't have sex until she's married makes you think you're a good mother? OMG. Look at Palin and thing again.

Bam!!!

Buahahah. I love Palin and her daughter just for being walking billboards proving the point that ABSTINENCE ONLY EDUCATION DOESN'T WORK. Yaayy. :D

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