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I'm friends with a few strippers and they do what they're comfortable with. If they want to get their kit off they can, but they can just walk around in underwear. Some people are really desperate. Stripping pays well and has hours that are good for people who are studying. As long as the women are in control it is 100% their choice.
Sorry Doc, you're wrong. They're called STI's. Sounds like you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about.
Let's address a few points here. If you have ever sat through a BBP class it is called an STD. STI may be used interchangeably. If the girl decided to become.a stripper, it is her decision whatever the rational might be. Not all strippers are toothless cesspits of disease. I have known many girls who have worked in strip clubs. They have done it for the money. They have been able to subsidize college without having loans. A few of them are doctors. Several of them are nurses and one is a cop. For the most part the beer girl at the dance club wears less than most strippers and probably goes home with more customers than the stripper. Most people on here seem to be fairly liberal, but for some reason you seem to have flipped on the prude switch. Get over yourselves.
I know we're horribly off-topic here, but this isn't the first time someone here has said that STDs are called STIs. According to whom? Do you think the term "STD" has some negative connotation that STI doesn't have? Yes, acronyms can be synonyms. Put another way, they are interchangeable. So please don't try to tell me what the "correct" medical term for something is. I'm fairly certain I'll win every time.
170- A dirty, lowlife job?! Really?! I've danced for years and NEVER EVER done anything dirty of any sort! I've NEVER touched a man, let him touch me, show my downstairs, etcetera.. Yes, there are some dancers who do dirty, nasty, despicable things.. But that does NOT make the job a 'dirty lowlife job'!! It is a perfectly legitimate, legal way of making money! 90% of dancers follow the rules and don't cross the lines... Quite frankly, good, clean dancers are the LAST women to put out! They aren't going to do anything stupid enough to lose their dignity, take a chance of catching something, getting pregnant, or thrown IN JAIL! No girl grows up saying "I wanna be a stripper when I grow up!'. 99.99999% of the time, there is a DAMN GOOD reason why a woman decides to start dancing! My reason was to save up money so I could leave my medically disabled sons abusive father. I knew I had to leave him for my sons safety and my own.
Dancing put me through my schooling to become an RN. And now I'm the most successful 21-year-old that I know. I have completed my schooling and I'm now a Registered Nurse. I own my own house, 2 vehicles, a taxidermy business, and a hydrographic-dipping business. And my son has everything he could ever want or need... WITHOUT any help from anybody! By the time I'm 27, I'll never have to work again! And I owe it to my good, clean career as a topless dancer! And I am NOT a lowlife! I'm not just speaking for myself. I know many, many dancers who did the same as I did. And now they are very successful women who are, also, NOT lowlifes at all! Think about the words you say. Everyone does what they do for a reason! It does NOT make them a lowlife! Asshole!
Idk about u. But I rather be a broke college student with a min wage job then to disrespect n lower myself by showing my body to the world. I have two jobs. Pay my bills n going to school n it makes me happy knowing it won't bite me in the ass later. But have ppl see that i busted my ass for where i am today and know I'm a hard worker with determination then take the easy way n have horny joe be happy for my stupid choice. Ppl do ask questions about what u did for work n in the past.
275- And when people ask me of my previous employment, I'm not ashamed to tell them. I live in a small town smack-dab in the middle of the Bible-Belt. Everyone in my town knows that I'm a dancer. But I am a very well respected woman in my town. Because everyone knows my reasons for dancing and what dancing has given me. You say that a dancer isn't a 'hard-worker with determination'? I'll tell you what determination is! Determination is doing what you have to do to make sure your baby boy is being fed, taken care of, and seeing his specialists regularly.(Which is 3.5 hours away, mind you. Try making those trips 3 times a week!)
Determination is doing what you have to do to make it through college to ensure a better life for your medically disabled child. Determination is doing what you have to do to make sure that you and your child have reliable transportation to and from his doctors 3 times a week, have a roof over your kids head, have lights for that roof, have food in his mouth, and clean water for that baby to bathe in. Determination is doing what you have to do, no matter what it is, to get what you want in life. What I want in life is for my son to never have to worry about anything at all. He is medically disabled with gastrointestinal problems. He has enough to worry about. I was determined to 'lower myself', as you said, to guarantee a better life for my child. And I worked my ass off the whole time! So I think I'm just another 'hard-worker with determination'... Just like you. Except I'm not a close-minded, judgmental ass like you! :)
Not closed minded. I have a sister who I love very much, used to STRIP. But she found other ways to have a honest living cause she didnt want to be that example to my nieces. Rasing them on her own while dealing with what they needed Showing them u can more with ur mind then shaking ur ass.
275, I know you probably put a lot of effort into that comment, but in all seriousness, absolutely nobody gives a shit what you think about the choices they make that have zero negative impact on anyone. None. You can keep your puritanical nonsense, the rest of us are just going to continue living in reality.
Desireev I commend you for doing what you have to to take care of your child! None of the strippers I've met (as an army wife you meet quite a few as that's the easiest job to get near a military instillation) none of them had values like you! Though I could never strip (don't have the confidence nor the body) its not my place to judge people. You did what you had to to take care of your son and get the 2 of you out of a bad situation. As for you people saying she's 19 she can work where she wants. Not if she lives under her mothers roof then her mom does have a say! "My house my rules i don't charge you rent so you need to obey my rules" is what my mom always said
To all you ignorant People saying that stripping is so bad and degrading. Fuck off, the odds are that you have either watched somebody strip or you've watched porn. With that being said strippers aren't horrible low life's. If a stripper respects herself and the rules she is doing a job to make money. If a woman is comfortable with her body and she decides to show it that's her business. On top of that girls send naked pictures to their boyfriends/ girlfriends all the time and no one judges them. Desireev much respect for you and everything you have done for you and your child.
There is a huge difference between stripping and send make pictures to your significant other. I'm not against strippers as I've stated before but if i send my deployed husband pictures of me nude I am not showing my nude self to anyone but him. A strippers job is to Dace naked in front of men. Two totally different things.
As a Dancer I am proud to say that Being a dancer does not lower your self. If anything, it brings your self esteem up. You have men who are willing to pay just to spend time with you. Some want you to dance for them, others just pay to sit and chat. Yes some girls do dirt, but the other 99% of us don't. And pride ourself on that. I make just as much money without having to do anything but dance. I attend university for a CRIMINOLOGY degree, live comfortably on my own.. I don't have to live home, or rely on mom and dad to pay my bills, and I still have time to study. There is nothing illegal about stripping, and absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. If you have a beautiful body, why not get payed to show it off? It beats working my ass off with two minimum wage jobs that barely pay the bills. I could go on forever on the positive, but I'm sure that it really doesn't matter to you.
So...what's the difference between a model and a stripper? Basically one thing...they dance. Models have to pose nude or half nude. If it pays good money then why not let them do what they need to and stop judging. If you're gonna judge people for being nude for the enjoyment of others, then why don't you judge models too?
383- You are correct! Pole dancing is about to become an Olympic sport! (I'm so excited! I can't wait!!!) On another note, I am so glad to see everyone coming out and saying what they've said! Like I said before, nobody grows up saying 'I wanna be a stripper!'. But dancers always dance for damn good reasons. It's refreshing to see the level of understanding among the people on here. And, for that, I thank you! :) And thanks for all of the personal compliments! I do what I can... Thank you guys! :)
My aunt stripped for 20 years (god she still looks good) and she and her four boys never went without, no food stamps or section 8, she got married and now she sponsors events at KOD (King of Diamonds in Miami) and rack in 30-70k every month. Shit she's paying for my schooling and she pay taxes like everyone else.
Desireev, you are an inspiration to us all, never give up :) and the problem here is that a lot of people generalize and look at the few who make mistakes and decide that everyone is like that, this is probably even part of why the mom even wrote this FML is from not completely understanding what her daughter was gonna be doing
Diiiiiiiidn't you say you stripped? I'm sorry, but someone who stripped at one point should be comfortable enough saying the word pussy and shouldn't act like a high-class lady, lol. Not trying to look down on you or act all high and mighty or anything. Also, for those of you saying the mom has no say: the mom doesn't have to let the daughter live with her and the mom doesn't have to drive her to work. As long as you still live with your parents they still have some say. Lastly, to the STI/STD debate: OH MY GOD WHO THE HELL CARES
At least she has a job. Honest living at the end of the day. They pay taxes like the rest of us.
Yeah, you are wrong. Strippers pay taxes just like waiters. It's the tips blank on the tax form. And yes it's good honest work. Athletes make money off their physical abilities, artists make money off their skills, ditchdiggers make money off their brawn. So dancers make money off their sexiness skills. Fair enough!
I agree with 22...I know someone who did soMthing similar to that for some quick cash...but now they do it permantly...I guess they figure....why do hard work in an office or out doors...when you can get paid well....doing somthing easier ...but then again...her daughter might just need some extra cash...you never know...
It sucks that OP had to drive her daughter there however her daughter has a job. Maybe she is using this job to pay for college we don't know. And hopefully the daughter isn't using the money to pay for her kids. Also at least her daughter is not a hooker. So as far as I'm concerned OP could have it worse.
You people have issues if you call that honest living. Like saying your daughter is a stripper and a man your age grabs her, fondles her n such. Maybe sex if she or even he is that desperate for money. Be a loving parent and help your kid. Not make her lower herself for something that stupid. I know so many ppl who regret doing that. They wished they went to school or just did the hard real honest work.
129- Yes, we dancers do pay taxes. We have to file our taxes quarterly so it isn't a huge mess. And we actually pay out-the-ass on our taxes... Only to have a very small tax return during tax season. And how 'they' would know about 'how much cash Miss Leather got last Friday night' would be to audit the club owner. The owner has to keep track of any and all income that is made in his place of business, just as any other business does. (If the owner doesn't keep track of the dancers incomes, then he's doing it all wrong and can get in BIG trouble!) It is a perfectly legal, legitimate job. It helps very many women AND men in financial struggles. We pay our taxes just like every other hard-working American does! People, seriously, need to stop being so closed-minded towards dancers. We are just like every other working person in America. We work hard, pay our taxes, and do it all to take care of our family.
Yankfan, what difference is it what she does with her money? If she has kids and this is her way to support them, does it make her a bad mother? No. You people need to get your heads out of your asses and realize that dancing / stripping is not dirty - these people aren't prostitutes. And how would a waitress or bartender that is offered money for sex any better? It happens, I had a friend that back in the day, accepted cash for lap dances and she was a bartender. I am pretty sure she had even had sex, but I don't judge as it isn't my business
294- I was not critiquing her for her job I understand stripping is not a dirty profession. All I'm starting is a lot of people her age are getting pregnant in hopes of an MTV show filming their lives. If OP's daughter does have children and this is how she is supporting them then I respect her for getting a job and handling her responsibilities. Sorry if my previous comment implied anything and I have removed my head from my ass.
Its ok yankfan, I didn't mean to come on so harshly. I was just trying to say that just because one strips doesn't make them dirty, scuzzy or disease ridden. If the have children and are good mothers then I think it is great if they can take in big dough and work only a few nights a week and spend the rest of the time with children. Also, its just as likely to find a waitress or bartender or shoe saleslady or (full in the blank with whatever "honest" job ) who is dirty, whorebag as it is a stripper
Plus, she never said she was actually a stripper. ...Though it was implied... But strippers make a shit ton of money that they deserve for being brave enough to be the center of attention in a room with hundreds of people while being simultaneously spat on by our ignorant society.
Maybe you can get staff discount?
fyl but maybe shes just watressing. at least she isnt prostituting.
Who said the daughter was a stripper? When I was 18-19 I used to work for dancers and clubs but I wasn't a stripper! They would fly me all over the us to work for there clubs over the weekend at a big event all expenses paid for first class seats ect. I was a hair and make-up artist.