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Today, I got a job selling knives. I had training for 11 hours. At the end of the training session, the instructor promptly informed everyone that they had to pay $145 for a set of demo knives. I paid the $145. I went home and learned that it was a scam. I went back for a refund. They said no. FML

By Regina - / Friday 3 July 2009 06:19 / United States
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By  axislave  |  0

Haha lol that sucks...let me guess it was that student for part time work where you can get like $15/appointment lol Yeah I've seen that before too and I almost went untill I googled it haha

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By  axislave  |  0

Haha lol that sucks...let me guess it was that student for part time work where you can get like $15/appointment lol Yeah I've seen that before too and I almost went untill I googled it haha

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  Nemesis2747  |  4

Its not a scam I work for Vector/Cutco and i started 3 weeks ago and im about to break $500. Give it a try its pretty cool. But dont think its a scam, it aint. Sell the knives on Ebay for twice what u paid.

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  kingbeau  |  0

Strictly speaking, its not a scam, its just a really bad job... It takes a lot of work for not so great a salary, and you have to set your own appointments, pay for your own gas to get to them, and do your own (unpaid) paperwork.... However, if you're willing to put in a ridiculous amount of work and know enough people you CAN make money off of it... Or so I've heard anyway, I wouldn't try it myself..

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  artkid  |  0

Yeaaaaaaaaah welcome to Cutco.....but to be fair...I think almost every student in north america has gone to at least the interview...however they wait until they have you good and roped before they actually tell you what you;re gunna be doing. I walked out as soon as he started demoing withthe knives. and the knives are Ok.....but not worth what they want people to pay for them.

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  greenltrn2003  |  0

wooowww...I didnt kno so many ppl knew about this. I was supposed to do this but the office is too far and I cant afford the commute or the demo knives so I said fuck it. I woulda been training this week. It actually sounded good for a person who has the reasonable accomadations like a car and such. But no wonder why they get students to do it

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  russianspy1234  |  11

its not a scam PER SE, but it definitely isnt what it seems. you just have to deal with being the two most hated professions in the world, telemarketer+door to door salesman. if you can handle that, its not a HORRIBLE job.

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when they first tell you about it it sounds great. 15 dollars an hour is amazing.... too bad you hav to set up everything yourself, and they stuff is so expensive people will let you demo for them but no one can afford that in this economy. they have like a 2000$ knife set... who wantsto pay 2000 for a set of knives....

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  violadude2007  |  0

Dude I work for that company and it freaking rocks. Your just too much of a lazy ass to do the work yourself. Last week I sold 300 dollars from 4 shows and got 75 bucks for 4 hours of work. My first week I did 7 shows which is 7 to 8 hours and made 274 dollars so I don't know what you are talking about scam but this job is beautiful.

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  Nemesis2747  |  4

I agree with #260. If ur lazy u wont get paid, but if u get off ur ass and actually TRY U WILL get paid. I live in NYC so i got alot of demos and most people buy at LEAST one knife. I dunno about u guys. I made $600 in 3 weeks, (did a few demos today and got 5-6 more tomorow). Plus the knives are good to use at home. My mom wont let me give em back and wants a Homemaker set. If ur a lazy bastard DONT work for em. But if u know alot of people and u are a people person got for it, its an awsome summer job. Might do it while in school. Easy money for me. Parents dont like it though : Plus up here in NYC, its $17.25 an apointment. At least get some family to SIGN the paper and u get paid.

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  dragon_fml  |  0

This is a message to all those doubtful of Vector's malicious schemes. First and foremost, the posts that are rebutting these claims are C&P responses from Vector managers. I'm a scam reporter and the number one thing these guys try to do is regain credibility, which involves having mass accounts and people to paste their script into message boxes such as these. Those who say they love Vector work for the company, plain and simple. These are tendentious opinions. Next, you need to ask yourself how legit a company really is if they hire untrained college students with little to no experience to market their "Top of the Line" products for them. Don't you think that if their product were really genuine, they'd employ a professional sales team? Do you see Car Salesmen or Real Estate agents recruiting with deceptive flyers that say "$18.00 B/Appt"? Is Base Appointment so hard to print? Of course not. The ads are purposely deceptive because Vector knows that in order to get you, they need to trap you in the interviews. The reason Vector does not operate on a legit level is because they know that their knives are overpriced and they would never sell in a retail environment. Using college students has an advantage, as they rely on their friends and family to make purchases from them on impulse. A lot of scammers use this tactic. Publish America, an infamous scam publishing company, comes to mind. They make their authors write down a list of their family and friends in order to spam them. Vector follows the same principle. The comment "Vector isn't for everyone" is 100% correct. It is for snakes and scum, nothing more. If you are an honest individual, you will resent all Vector stands for. If you're a sleazebag you'll fit right in. Vector is a tried and true Pyramid Scam company. These were quite popular in the 70's, but notoriety put a lot of these guys out of business. Vector is a typical Pyramid scheme, complete with the high turn-over rate and useless product (Sorry, but $1000 for a set of knives is NOT a value, despite what Vector tells you). Ever get those emails that tell you how to make a lot of money from home selling product, but in order to sign up you need to pay for an access code? That's a Pyramid scam. Vector makes you purchase their knives before you start. (What employer charges their employees to work for them?) Vector has PLED GUILTY to Fraud in three different states. If that doesn't convince you that they are scam artists, you're hopeless. If you're considering Vector marketing, consider Telemarketing instead. They are at least honest about what they do and you don't need to feel guilty for taking advantage of your friends and family. http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=13862&page=2 /Vector Info

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  Raptorace22  |  0

uh ok... not a copy and paste message here. My friend does this job and makes good money off it. It really isn't for lazy people; that's it. QQ moar. So what if you have to buy your own gas? Doesn't everybody? I have yet to hear of a company who pays for the commute of its employees. 2nd, using college kids is just business strategy. They cost less than a sales team. They're willing, they can use the money. In no way is this a scam. You scam yourself by half-assing it. Fuck I hate lazy, ignorant people.....

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  crasher41  |  0

#283 GREAT POST (Also read post #299 for further elaboration of this issue) I'm glad I'm not the only one that realizes there is mass fake posting by Vector reps going on here. I have an Strategic marketing MBA and even i didn't realize the degree to which this fraud was occurring. I will be a formidable opponent of Vector until they remove themselves from campuses and stop trying to steal money from students who have enough problems as it is. I have already sent out letters to local student unions urging them to ban vector from their campuses. I gain nothing by telling you the truth....VECTOR IS A HUGE SCAM, THEY WILL STEAL YOUR MONEY! DONT BE A SUCKER!!

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  WackTastic  |  0

That's hilarious I clicked on this to see if it was Cutco who screwed you over because my ex boyfriend totally got ripped off by them...turns out lots of people have posted stuff about them. They never sent him his refund for his kit like they were supposed to and he was too much of a lazy @$$ to fight them. I don’t care what anyone says they are defiantly a shady business. Of course you can make money of you subject your self to that way of life enough and close your eyes to all the crap that company pulls. Hell no matter where you get a job if you pimp your self out enough you'll make cash. Cooperate drones are awesome profit for them, just don’t ask questions and drink more of the Cool Aid..try not to drown in it

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  Phelpski  |  0

hahahahaha I worked for vector/cutco too like 7 years ago! it sucked!! but I still have the knives... lol ydi op for not checking it out before spending the money.

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  Jezlovespink  |  5

what company is. it called, around graduation time they put this ad up in my school under the jobs section place called vector and our demo knives were more expensive I couldn't afford it so I quit right after our second day of "training", and the. way it worked for us is we make a "certain percentage" off of each set we sold.....the knives were good thou

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  Stumps13  |  0

Odd that the Wall Street Journal would do a feature on a 'scam.' But I guess that's what you get when you call a quick google search 'company research.' http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121789140861111649.html Even worse that the Children's Wish foundation is getting donations from this giant con. http://www.allbusiness.com/services/business-services/4346128-1.html But seriously. This company is such a big scam and is so whack they even helped build a hospital and support several local colleges and universities. http://www.cutcofoundation.org/cutco.htm FYL OP, FYL indeed.

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  crasher41  |  0

I hope don't expect people to believe this shit. These are MADE UP STORIES AND NUMBERS. Vector gives nothing to society, they only steal money from poor students, there is nothing charitable abou them. Do not be fooled by these FAKE POSTERS who are Vector employees trying to selvage whats left of their brand in order to steal more money. VECTOR = SCAM. Don.t be fooled by these con artists, they work for vector.

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  Stumps13  |  0

The critical flaw in your 'argument' crasher is that the links are to actual sites with actual articles from actual companies. Your insistence that the Wall Street Journal is a fabrication of Vector Marketing completely discredits your opinion.

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  TheWickedOne  |  0

271 is right actually. They DO give to charities like the childrens wish foundation, and they even give out scholarships to top employee's who are in school. I work for them and as long as your confident in yourself and actually try, it's a great job. The guy who recommended me to the job is already a Manager and has only been working for them for a couple months.. And to anyone saying cutco is overpriced, considering it's the last time you'll have to spend money on those knives it's a damn good deal. Forever Garuntee FTW

By  fnool  |  0

You deserved it. This is a common thing for American students to get roped into right now.

By  nayohmeegee  |  0

i actually work at the same company. and its not a scam. so i dont know what happened with your situation. fyl.

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  chickadee207  |  0

It is definitely a scam...they take advantage of young and desperate people. They are notorious. Try looking a place up in google before you work there! Good luck now that I am sure you are pretty upset to find out your job is a con!

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  anniebananie  |  3

It's pretty easy to figure out because there is a certain company that sends out letters about a "summer work opportunity" to high school and college students every year. I don't know if I'm allowed to say this on here, but it's called Vector.

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  rottenryhmer  |  0

Yea I work for the same company. It sounds pretty sketchy and I was about to bail on it after i heard you have to buy your own knives but in my case you can return your knives for a full refund or just sell them at a higher price. Its not a scam, its just hard to stick with and actually succeed with it. Most people just quit right after they start and end up losing money.

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  DoomJeff91  |  2

Hate to tell this to you man but almost every real job works like a pyramid. And I'd rather work in a company that promotes from within than one that looks for a stranger that might be more qualified.

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  crasher41  |  0

#356. i wish I could get you to stand up in front of one of my business classes and say that line about business all operating on pyramids. The comedic value would be unprecedented, i could charge admission. I hope you're really not that stupid. Face the facts, VECTOR IS A SCAM!

By  NDouglas  |  0

Is that the Cutco/Vector Marketing deal? I sat through their pitch about 20 years ago... Wasn't impressed. My neighbor bought into it last year - It took her less than a week to throw in the towel (It didn't help that our "old" Henkel knife cut through the rope in three strokes).

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  mytwocents  |  0

What did you pay for your Henkle 20 years ago? Do you have any idea how much a Henkle 5-star costs NOW, as compared to Cutco? A Henkle 5-star is better, and more expensive, than Cutco, but the more common 3-star is inferior, and naturally costs less, than Cutco.

By  chickadee207  |  0

Don't feel bad about falling for the cutco/vector marketing scam. A lot of people do! At least you learned your lesson and at least you didn't get conned into something worse, like selling vacuum cleaners!

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Oh man, I have quite a few friends that worked as telemarketers for a vacuum company. It's so hard, and such a horrible job, most of them either quit within the first couple days or got fired within a week or two. My brother has a friend that did the knife-selling thing for quite a while and was actually pretty successful with it, though. No clue if it was the same company though.

By  Qup  |  0

that's too bad. at least you only lost 145$ instead of many thousands. you learned a lesson. : it doesn't cost money to get a job. and you got knife training ! actually, you got off cheap!

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