By Anonymous - 08/07/2012 21:13 - France
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The queen is an unelected fascist who lives off tax payers money. The country is in debt yet we're still expected to support this parasite. The diamond jubilee celebrated nothing more than a death sentence heritage and 60 years of oppressing poor people. But yeah, you deserved it op. god save the queen.. And all that.
@125: Actually, you're wrong. The Queen makes the country far more money than she takes from it. Besides, without her, we have nothing in the way of national days and things to celebrate. Like it or not (and over 80% of us like it according to surveys) the Monarchy represents a major ingredient of the glue that holds British society together.
Glue that holds British society together? What is this shit. She shouldn't be in the 'glue'. Society should work as a population anyway, regardless of how much we love our dictator. And what is there to celebrate? She was just born in the right place at the right time. Lucky her. In the past, it was just a way of taking money from peasants, and killing any opposition. Brilliant.
I'm sorry, "dictator?". I hardly think so! The queen's role now is largely ceremonial - she spends her days meeting people and just waving to crowds. If anyone's a dictator it's the prime minister and politicians (not that I think he is) seems they are the actual law makers. Also, saying she lives on tax payers' money is just a pathetic statement as so little of anyone's money is given to her it is almost unnoticeable and yet it allows such a rare and fantastic tradition to continue (this of course being the royal family itself).
Well technically she is a dictator. No-one outside of her family will ever take her position. Does the monarchy use the Montesquieu principle? I think not. Despite her not actually doing anything in terms of 'running the country', she still has enough enthusiasm to claim her hard earned cash, elegantly and majestically stolen from commoners and peasants. I believe the figure is somewhere around the £45 million mark. My A&E service at the local hospital was shut down, probably because of that £45m going to her instead of contributing something to society.
Yes okay that is sad, but it must be kept in mind that we are in an economic recession. It is not as though the queen is the sole reason for things closing down. Also, the queen brings in millions of pounds whilst admittedly she does technically live off tax payers money. I don't understand why people hate traditions and want us to live in some grey communist state.
I understand what you're saying, that taking away the queen would take away traditions, and to a certain extent, our national identity. But I'd happily sacrifice what's left of our national identity for a symbol that is relevant to the times. The monarch was an important historical figure, but not now. She means literally nothing. I don't even think treason is a crime these days. I could be wrong. Our national identity should consist of people that actually serve a real purpose. Anyway, at least with communism, there'd be no class war. That's a start.
But real communism is the most flawed thing in the world. for instance, if everyone is given the same amount of money and possessions etc, there is no longer an incentive to work harder than someone else. Therefore, the system collapses as people have no actual need to do anything as "real communism" grants them the same as everyone else.
#148 Lenin tried communism and the only way he succeeded was through his war economic plan which allowed small businesses to make a profit...capitalism, Russia prospered to an extent. As for the queen duh she makes a lot of money off tax payers but she isn't the one in charge. What politician needs 400 or 500 k a year to live...does anyone need that much? Maybe if some people started taking large pay cuts the NHS,schools and other important things wouldn't be going to shit. If I can run a house, pay bills,heat the house, put food in my child's belly and clothes on his back plus look after myself on the small amount of money I get then so can they. Everyone has their own valid opinions about the queen get over it...it's the government that needs to get in touch with the people okay? They don't give a shit. My gran can't work because she is seriously ill...does she get help? Does she fuck because they rejected her cry for it yet any ton dick and lazy ass Harry who have never done a damn days work can claim left right and centre...grrrrr
Prince Charles is next in line for the throne but there's a controversy over whether or not he will actually assume it because he's been divorced and remarried. In the eyes of the Church of England (of which he would become the leader if he were to be King) that makes him a polygamist. In fact that's the very reason Queen Elizabeth II is Queen. Her uncle, King Edward VIII, was pressured to abdicate his throne when he chose to marry a two-time divorcee. Thus the crown passed to her father, King George VI, making her heir apparent.
Well since the monarchy is now no more than a mere figurehead and is an icon of patriotism for the people, emulating an asshole like Henry VIII is frowned upon. The only reason Henry VIII got away with it was because his word was law. The modern English monarchy just doesn't have any real power anymore.
43: You might want to transfer some of that enthusiasm to your own country's politics. It is an election year, after all. Also, even forgetting the whole Charles thing, it's not like William and Kate would actually be "ruling" anything if Queen Elizabeth were to die. It would just change the figurehead.
I'm not wishing for that sweet old lady to die, she just has been on the throne tooooo loong , I know that prince Charles is next but I think that the only reason is living as long as she can is so that Prince William can take over and not her son. Personally I don't like Prince Charles... and Im glad that princess di dirvorced him too! She's still my favorite :)
#82, Only once or twice in history has a president lost the popular vote and won the electoral college vote. Also, the electoral college almost always votes according to the popular... *Glances at 82's comment again* Oh, I see you're an Obama supporter. *cough* On second thought you're completely right. The election is totally rigged. There's really no point in voting. You might as well just stay home that day.
84, no I'm not an Obama supporter did you see my enthusiam for him lols and I'm not a Romney either, so what does that make me!? o.o lol but I didn't want Obama to win the 08 election for some odd reason because I knew the US will slowly be a socialist society *sigh* what can we do? And thanks for the history lesson :D I learn something new everyday! :)
81, no I'm not an Obama supporter did you see my enthusiam for him lols and I'm not a Romney either, so what does that make me!? o.o lol but I didn't want Obama to win the 08 election for some odd reason because I knew the US will slowly be a socialist society *sigh* what can we do? And thanks for the history lesson :D I learn something new everyday! :) (this will probably get deleted, so I hope you read it before hand xD)
How is 16 not buried yet? There is so much wrong with what was said. For starters, respect and compliant are two very different words. By respecting someone you are in no way obligated to change your world view or stop, change or start doing things that aren't impacting on the person you are showing respect to. How you made the connection between respect and lack of human progress is beyond me, they're not even in the same ballpark. And 28, there is nothing to agree with in what they said.
"Respect has to be earned" is a bullshit platitude that sounds a lot better than it implies. Everybody deserves to be treated with respect. Don't worry if someone has "earned" respect, just treat them with respect--the world would be a lot better if we all did.
Simply flatter your grandmother on how she looks much younger than the Queen. Something like "Oh, really? I would have never guessed!" I dunno.