By SFra - 24/10/2012 01:19 - United States
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He must be religious.
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Well most Christians/Catholics refuse to believe in dinosaurs because it isn't in the bible and apparently God didn't make dinosaurs.
36. Einstein was raised Jewish but was far from believing in it during his adult life. And Darwin died an Agnostic. As he wrote Origin of Species he began to question his beliefs and in his autobiography admitted to being an Agnostic. I agree with what you're saying but please state correct facts.
It's just a matter of writhed or not you believe the bible to be a historical record or a guide on how to live a good life, if you think it's a history lesson than the world would only be around 20000 years old and in your opinion radiocarbon dating/ science in general is wrong and therefore dinosaurs could not have existed
85 the bible describes them as leviathans with a tail like an oak tree and so on ... 77 you are wrong if you look at the sciences like geochronology you can see that the earth isn't able to be billions of years old based of expansion and decay rates of the sun, the decaying orbit of the moon and its interaction with tidal influence... Go look up Dr. Kent Hovind and see what I am talking about creationists do not discount science after all the law of biogenesis contradicts the theory of evolution every time ... And foot prints have been found and excavated in limestone showing human footprints beside and even crossing back and forth with Dino prints ;)
89 there are a lot of doctors with various claims as to why science is wrong, ironically most of them are medical doctors, the only semi legitimate claim for disputing carbon 14 dating is that if the earth is only 20000 years old than an equilibrium of carbon 14 would not have been reached yet although as far as I know the same does not apply to uranium lead dating or potassium argon dating which is used for dating rocks and minerals, so no unless you are willing to condemn science as a whole than you are wrong
85, Read Job 40:15-24; 41:1-34. Not saying these animals are dinosaurs, because the Bible has a lot of fantastic creatures, but they are more like dinosaurs than anything else that is known to exist. Some say the Behomoth is an elephant or a hippo, but it can't be because elephants and hippos don't have a "tail like a cedar." Some also say that the Leviathan is a whale or a crocodile, but the animal described is far too big to be a crocodile, and also has scales, unlike a whale.
89 - Take an astronomy class. The sun changes its rate of decay constantly with its rotation. And even when we did think it was constant, the rate was still within the BILLIONS of years. None of this happens quickly. And "quickly" within scientific means is in the MILLIONS. Did you really just say Kent Hovnid? *Facepalm* he's been proven wrong so many times its not even funny. Dino tracks along with human tracks?! *DOUBLE FACEPALM* those are FAKE! No credible paleontologist has EVER found human tracks along dinos. Ever. Seriously, where were you educated? Your school system has absolutely failed you.
I can understand why #1 would think his friend was religious. I read a news article a few weeks back that stated more then 40% of the us population believes the earth is only a fee thousand years old. I don't know how true the article was, but it surprised me that such a high percentage believed that. Also, I live in a town that is almost entirely Mormon. Every Mormon that I asked if they believed in dinosaurs said that they did not. .
37 is right, actually. We have reached a point where the existence of dinosaurs cannot be denied. That is why many creationists believe dinosaurs existed, but at the same time as humans, not before. They believe in dinosaurs, just not in the fact that the earth is much older than the bible says. This being said, believing that dinosaurs are contemporaries of the humans is already quite ridiculous. Outright denying their existence is an insult to human intelligence and science.
114: Since I'm not Mormon, I don't know what their "official" belief is regarding dinosaurs or the age or the earth. I am currently living in Idaho Falls which is around 80% Mormon. Maybe they have a more extreme view here, but I have been in numerous decisions here regarding these topics. In every case they quoted the bible and various other Mormon doctrines as to proof the the earth in only a few thousands years old. In one case the person I was talking with is a Stake President.
Hmmm kent went and acted tax stupid huh lol outta date been a few years either way his legal issues weren't my point. Alright to be simple then second law of thermodynamics or law of entropy ... Order tends towards disorder not the opposite, now carbon dating ... Dear lord you can carbon date freshly slaughtered seals to several thousand years old the accuracy of this has always been suspect. But let's simplify where are the transitional species in the fossil record between completely different animals? None exist modern birds have been found far below the fossils of creatures like the archaeopteryx which some call a transitional the human transitionals have commonly been found as hoaxes like piltdown man or modern humans with degenerative issues like the australopithecus with rickets and degenerative joint and bone issues ... Or Lucy a skeleton of a Gibdon that has a leg bone found a significant distance away and in a different strata "proving" it walked upright.... Lol way off topic I know but neither side has anything concrete evolutionists and creationists alike take their theories based on faith and what they feel makes the most sense... Either way dinosaurs existed an were talked about in the bible which is the crux of this issue. Though to be fun they once used the coelacanth as a reference fossil citing it had been extinct for 65 million years ... Then they started catching them off the coast of Madagascar in 1973 and well shows how much we really know about fossil evidence and "extinct" prehistoric animals
131: Evolution isn't taken on faith, and science is not a religion (although it does address SOME of the same questions as does religion). Evolution is an accepted theory because it best explains ALL biological phenomena that has been observed, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be disproved by new phenomena--articles of faith, by their nature, can't be disproven. Thus, evolution is not based on faith. Creationism offers alternative explanations to observed phenomena, but those explanations never hold upon testing them (or they are untestable). Evolution is open to critique, but there has not yet been any strong proof against it. Finally, Kent Hovind has a long, public history of lying: lying to the courts, lying to the IRS, lying about his education (he paid $200 for it and came from a "university"/degree mill based in a trailer in Colorado), and lying about the evidence in favour of evolution. Why do you trust this guy's opinion? What kind of example is he setting?
dinosaurs are mentioned in the bible not that anyone cares Job 40-41two large creatures are discibed. http://www.bible.ca/tracks/b-dinosaurs-mentioned-in-bible.htm this of course would disprove at least part of the evolution thoery so it is swept under the rug. also on side note why would he Chinese Calender be represented by 11 real animals and one imaginary one aka dragon.
It actually mentions in the bible something that could similarly describe a dinosaur. When talking about Leviathan, for example: "He makes the depths boil like a pot; He makes the sea like a jar of ointment. v32 Behind him he makes a wake to shine; v34 He looks on everything that is high" (meaning it was a tall animal with a long neck). There is plenty of proof when you read what is written about Behemoth and Leviathan in the bible.
I'm religious and I believe in dinosaurs.
Run before the stupidity spreads!!!!