By Anonymous - 10/10/2010 21:47 - Canada
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Sorry if this is a double post, my iPod is f'd up. First off, all those who say, " Why does it matter, bones are not meat," obviously don't know much about vegetarianism. I am not a vegetarian, but I know that most don't believe animals should be killed. That is my commenter criticism. Criticism for OP? YDI, I knew that when I was 8.
The argument "Animals shouldn't be killed for food" is kind of ridiculous. Animals kill each other to eat all the time. We're just doing the same thing, albeit in a more "mechanical" sort of way. Yes, there are some places who raise animals for food and treat them cruelly, but let's face it--will becoming a vegetarian help anything? You're better off holding public protests or something.
see, I don't like most vegitarians but i'd like to be one. i dont like vegitarians who do it because it "saves animals". they're already killed, when you dont eat them they just sit in the grocery store and are wasted - so you might as well eat it. personally I just don't like the taste of meat, but I can't cut meat out of my diet because I'm already on a limited diet from my hypoglycemia. sooo there's different vegitarians...just putting that out there.
think about it this way, what purpose would a cow serve if it was not to be eaten? they are to slow to ride, they can carry a lot of weight but can't take it to far at a time there whole purpose is to be eaten. same with chicken and bison. one bison would feed an entire native family for three days and made a ridiculous amount if tools for them. there is nothing wrong about eating meat.
oh, 409- Animals are grown in virtually unregulated environments, genetically modified, and pumped full of hormones. Often, they are kept in tiny spaces where they can barely move and spend all day shitting on themselves (Hello E-Coli!). There may not be anything wrong with a "native" tribe killing, consuming, and using animals in order to survive, but there is certainly something wrong with modern factory farming and the way that "civilized" nations grow their food.
Well said. If the animals eaten today weren't on factory farms, suffering their whole lives where they could barely move, not to mention being full of hormones etc, I would be more willing to eat meat. It's not just because it was once a living, breathing thing with a heart and a brain. That's part of it, but the conditions the animals were raised in is what is not just sad but frightening, considering how bad the meat is for us after all the hormones and possibility of food poisoning.
You DO know vegetarians kill animals just by being vegetarians right? Millions of animals are killed by combines in the wheat fields that supply your precious diets. Then they're left on the field to rot - Us proud meat eaters actually turn our kills into something useful. The only real way to avoid killing animals is to grow your own food from scratch. You're also not even saving any animals in the first place anyway. Farmers don't have a daily stroll and capture animals from the wild. They breed the animals to replace the ones they kill. So if everyone just stopped eating meat, there'd be no reason for the farmers to keep breeding the animals and your precious diet will have created a few new extinct species. Ethics are useless. Get over it.
Also eating meat is just natural selection. Survival of the fittest for the arguement of athiests. We grew to a higher level of intelligence and we capitalized on it. For those religious folk, God put man in charge of the animals, gave us power over them. We are meant to eat animals according to the Bible. If you read the Bible, read Acts.
I agree with half of you, I completely love animals i am totally against animal torture of any kind. Am i a vegetarian? no. I think its incredibley wrong for an animal to be killed so that other can eat it. But It's not like they are going to stop getting killed. If we save it one day it will eventually get killed. what i dont do is wear fur or anything like that. I hate it and i hate people that would kill animal just to wear its fur.
376 - you talking to me? I'm well aware that propel have to kill animals to eat them. Thank you, Captain Obvious - I even said in my comment that "animals kill each other to eat in wild, and we're basically doing the same thing" - I guess that helped make it more obvious for you. What I'm saying is that it's basically just the food chain - we're omnivores, so why not eat meat? Yes, many animals are treated cruelly, but if you become a vegetarian, who the hell notices? The farmers? You really think they'll notice such a small decrease? It's practically nonexistent. That's why I said something more public should be held, like a protest. That way people KNOW what you're trying to do.
Hi all, when I ate meat, I was all "screw vegetarians, like keep it to yourselves you know?" and I've probably only met a handful of vegetarians that are ignorant like that. I just met about 50 ignorant meat eaters. Good job. I don't really care that you eat meat, but I stopped not because they are living breathing things, but because animals are now all products and are mass produced for consumption. Whatever way you wanna argue that, the bottom line is I'm personally doing fine without meat. Oh and for that grade school response about combines, it's arguments like that, that show me that you are scared ;). Also if you want to go there, a huuuuuge chunk of our weat fields that could probably end world hunger actually go to feeding factory farmed animals. So now you are eating meat, and killing some spiders with farm equipment. Please anyone who is looking into becoming vegetarian, don't listen to these scared trolls, go out, research, and make choice. Oh and that sucks OP, just keep researching and at least you know now.
Are you serious? No, you don't. Are you seriously that naive? Why would you save any animals by going vegetarian? You see, Sweetie, meat is usually slaughtered to be sold in stores. Unless stores notice a LARGE difference in the amount of meat that is bought, they won't cut down on the amount of meat they have in the stores, and so the same amount of animals are killed. Do you honestly think that the one packet of meat you would have bought makes a difference to the store? ... It doesn't. Sorry to break it to you. You're saving absolutely zero animals by being a vegetarian. And you're not special, or a good person for being a vegetarian, just throwing that out there, too. If we were to calculate stuff the way you apparently do, you'd be polluting a lot more, due to the larger amount of vegetables that you eat, which are moved in trucks, or in cars, to stores, etc. So, really. You'd be killing the polar bears. Reality is, however, that the same amount of vegetables would probably be moved even if you were not a vegetarian. So there you have it.
i think honey, you may be the idiot yeah one person might make only the slightest difference, but there actually is more than one vegetatarian in the world, an we are making a difference.... and meat causes twice as much pollution as veg, since aside from anything else, the animals get fed on the wheat that people could have eaten.... basic law of food chains, energy is lost at every stage, its more efficient to be the primary consumer....
being a vegan isn't ALL about the animal not being kill dude it's about how they kill it. like you said the store won't know how the animal got kill so instead of making the animal suffer slowing jut inject it with something so it will die painfulless and fast that's what some ppl r saying
No, who passes there time correcting mistakes??? dude even teachers must get tired of it!!! and seriously if someone makes a mistake on an fml seriouly who the f** are u to tell them how to spell??? WEVE GOT BRAINS, if we chose not to use it that's OUR problems deal with it!!! and f** off!!!
100 and 102- no one gets worked up except those who get corrected. You won't see us grammar Nazis getting upset because we don't have to. All we are trying to do is make you look smarter. Whether you choose to do so or continue to typ lyk dis and look like an idiot is up to you.
Guys, seriously, please. Half the people on here are on iPods, and there's a spell check. They can see their mistakes, if they wanted to correct their grammar errors, trust me, they would. Just because they choose not to, you don't have to chew them out for it. Go ahead, but honestly it's not making you a better person or them seem any smarter. I'm pretty sure that at some point in your life you've made a spelling mistake so honestly, why bother taking this so far?
Because they make so many in a single sentence, they come across as illiterate. Sometimes, the sentence can't even be read. There's a difference between knowing how to spell and making a mistake, and just being horrible at spelling despite being taught how to spell it correctly. The latter just proves they're idiots.
141: Your point might be valid, given a different example. In this case, though, the problem wasn't one of spelling, but of grammar. "Your" is a correctly spelled word, so spellcheck won't catch it when it's misused as "you are". As for the "Nobody cares" argument, well, people seem to care an awful lot when someone assumes they're unintelligent, based on their poor grammar and spelling. And people *will* make that assumption, online and off; it's just the way the world works. That being said, if you genuinely DGAF about others' poor writing, or how you yourself are seen, then ignore the corrections and CTFO.
I would just like to say that I don't correct people to get a horrible reaction. I correct people, because although people may not realize this, a lot of times I will look for a few of the people I've corrected and guess what? They actually do watch how they type now. It does help to be corrected and even if they corrected it just to save themselves the embarrassment, I for one, feel accomplished. Learn how to type, because you discredit anything you say by sounding like an idiot. If this makes Ignorance, Jane, Pendatik, Doc or myself a bitch or an asshole. So be it. It's quite obvious that the "get over it grammer nazis noone cares about grammer anyway" comments make no difference. Ayame (sp) is the perfect example of someone who knew she wanted to present herself in a better light and now she shows her intelligence. Don't sell yourself so short people. She was saying, "heh" because it's a way to chuckle. You're not very good at correcting. :P
I'm seeing C6Racer at 200, and he does indeed have eyes. Spas, I think you're included. I'm not generally included when people mention the GNs by name, probably because I'm not as vigilant or, uh, brash about it as others. (I do loves meh some brashness in mah ladies, though. ;]) I'm guessing I made the cut this time because I piped in with my $0.02 earlier in the thread.
man, it's a little sad how fml comments these days are getting boring. they used to be all funny and stuff, but now it's all about who's a noob, who's stupid, who's ugly, or who made a spelling mistake or wrong grammar. ok we get it you're cool, you're smart and all that, but c'mon people, let's mind our own businesses and make these comments enjoyable rather than annoying loool .be nice especially it's thanksgiving lmaooo ok i admit i'm lame or whatever, but im just saying :)
Woah, woah, woah, hold up. I'm a beginning 6th grade math & language teacher and didn't know that. People know and don't know things. Sorry for being retarded for not knowing that so if I were you I'd shut the hell up. Oh, and people do make mistakes. Ignorance doesn't need a life, she's awesome. :)
Stupid work! I had to leave for awhile. If you want to see funny comments or make this site "enjoyable" to your standards, then do something about it. I happen to find a lot of comments rather funny and I happen to think the site is more entertaining now that people have buckled down on the "hey hottie let's fuck" comments. Spastastic, I know you! I happen to appreciate you and your input! TIJD, yes I included you this time, because you were part of this thread and because you're almost always right when commenting to someone. Steff, I'M SORRY! I feel bad enough. LOL Kidd, I thought you were talking about RedBlueGreen LOL! Usually people refer to RedPillSucks as RPS, so I was confused. Also, Raleigh is still around, he just never comments. He recently made a big move from a different state and is back in school. He has a new account now. If you look hard enough you might spot him!
Spas, I love Neapolitan. I bet you're not the strawberry part that people leave in the fridge to spoil, you're either the vanilla or the chocolate part. Also TIJD knows that I wasn't really correcting her, I just thought it would be funny to correct someones acronym use instead of spelling. I didn't think about "Chill", so I stand corrected.
365 - In some places, it is acceptable to start a sentence with 'and'. Check out some of the poems out there. 372 - Please help me try to understand this, for my mind is thoroughly boggled. You're a sixth grade math/language teacher, but you can't spell 'sentence'? And, upon further inspection, it appears you can't spell 'grammar', either... I agree. How the hell are you a teacher? One more thing: I thought, as a teacher, you're to keep things like that relatively confidential. The student was... in the first grade, I think you said? You expect him to write any better than that?! Are you daft, woman?!
Oi... I'm sorry guys. I don't know what is happening tonight.. really.. I guess I'm just tired. I swear. This never happens to me, espicially at night. I can spell sentence and grammar but... sigh. I completed college, earned a degree and now here I am as a teacher. I can barely even write right now. I guess I'll get some rest and wait until I'm feeling myself..
400 - sentences** Also, the fact that you put "...until you're feeling [your]self" amuses me. I'll go over here now and pout in shame. Anna- I love you! 402 - Give "us" a break? You mean give you morons a break? Nope. We even typed out the correct way to spell 'grammar' and you still spelled it wrong.
Eh, there are always the anomalies. Some of the people on here remind me of desperate middle schoolers trying to fit in by being fake. I wasn't talking about you but someone else. Can't remember what number they were. You genuinely don't seem fake, so I respect you and therefore wouldn't be saying something like that about you.
In 2nd grade someone told me it was made of horse hooves. I thought they meant the horse-shoe things so I didn't see the big deal. xD Until now. OP stay away from Rice Krispie treats too, they have marshmallows (which also contain gelatin btw). It was really surprising to me when I found out, because they make it look so colourful and kid-friendly and fruity/sweet tasting that you wouldn't expect them to sneak in dead animal parts in there! There's always agar you can use as a substitute though. Oh, and there's chocolate-energy bars that have marshmallows with no gelatin. They're so yummy! ^_^ Well I'm rambling now.
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yeah you must have been a vegitarian for like a day. how could you not know that. ydi for just being dumb. I can see you've put so much effort into this new lifestyle. psssh.
I agree. Stupid vegetarians, we eat meat for a reason. Our bodies were built with a digestive track for omnivores, not herbivores OR carnivores alone.
It depends on what type of vegetarian she is. There's lacto-ovo vegetarians, for example, who don't eat meat, eggs or drink milk. There's plain lacto vegetarians who don't eat meat or drink milk. I know there's more, but I can't remember the names of them offhand.
hmm but the fact that you have to have strong willpower to stay vegetarian has to show that it's not good for you and you can't be as healthy. many vegetarians say they are healthier than us meat-eaters, but It is quite the opposite when a healthy diet consists of both meat and greens. they may bs skinny, but it is much harder to build any muscle.
That's true, unless they're eating the right kinds (and right amounts) of protein. It is possible to be a healthy vegetarian, though it is rare. A vegan on the other hand... I heard somewhere that you can only last a few months (six or so, max, unless you're doing something right) on a vegan diet, since really, the only things you're eating are vegetables.
yes, there are forms of plant proteins, as well as egg proteins( but assuming they are not ovo-vegetarians then this would be discounted anyway) however, these forms of protein are not as effective or as helpful to building lean muscle or maintaining a healthy diet. so it is possible, just not easily done at all.
Noname, dear, have you ever considered looking up basic information about what yr talking about before pretending to be some kind of expert on it? Because if you'd looked at any reputable source of any kind you would discover that saying what you just did makes you appear to be a complete idiot - and a pathetically defensive one at that. So: yr average person eats over three times the recommended amount of protein, it's spectacularly easy to get complete proteins from a vegetarian diet, and on average vegetarians are substantially healthier than meat-eaters, particularly regular meat-eaters. These are all facts you could easily have verified in much less time than you've spent being a bellend about other people's dietary habits in these comments.
Personally it bugs me that vegitarians pick and choose what is ok and what is "not". Alot eat fish, cheese, or drink milk. You either eat meat or be vegan. Too fussy IMO.
Jenn, I'm not quit sure why that would bother you at all. There are a lot of people in general that are picky eaters. I know people that eat fruit but can't stomach any type of vegetables. I eat all meats minus liver. I'm sure there are things you won't eat as well. Look at it that same way.(:
Toxic I know there is a difference that's why I said eat meat or be vegan. As in, if your going to be fussy about what meat you eat or what things from animals are acceptable. Vegan will not eat any meat or any animal products. To the other person - Sorry didn't note your name, a lot of things also bug a lot of people, look at it that way.