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By sad face / Saturday 24 November 2012 11:54 / Australia
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That's pretty immature of your boss. If they really didn't like you, they easily could have fired you. Your boss sounds like a sore loser.

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That's pretty immature of your boss. If they really didn't like you, they easily could have fired you. Your boss sounds like a sore loser.

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#1, I don't know the employment laws of Australia, but firing someone often means: 1. You have to pay them unemployment benefits 2. You risk a wrongful termination or discrimination lawsuit 3. You admit it was a mistake to hire you in the first place. Getting someone to quit is a winning management strategy.

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All we can do is make assumptions, however, if OP was really doing something that bad he/she could have been taken aside and told. You can't expect someone to learn from their mistakes if they don't know that they're mistakes in the first place. But I mean, there's a backstory here that none of us knows. I'm sticking with the boss being an asshole just from this bit of info we have. Haha.

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12 - Yeah, that is true. Here in Arizona you can get fired if your boss doesn't like your shoes. :p Haha I guess I'm just used to it this way. You don't need a reason to fire someone here so you can't face wrongful termination or anything.

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#16, haha, I know all about "termination without cause" because I, too, live in a barbaric jungle. In the civilized world, employers have to go through an orderly system of warnings, etc. to get rid of someone. You can't instantly lose your income and your health insurance because you wore ugly shoes one day.

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19 - It's pretty ridiculous, isn't it? I get where you're coming from with your previous comment then. I'm just so used to this system here. Hahah.

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There's two sides to everything. Yes, employment laws help prevent wrongful termination, but they often also force employers to hang onto shitty employees who don't deserve the job they have, and thus limit opportunities for deserving people. My 8th grade English class had to endure an entire year of shitty education from a worse-than-useless teacher because she had tenure and the teacher's union is so powerful in the state of New Jersey. The students' constant complaints about her went unheede

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Feces running down her leg? Reminds me the time of when i saw a old asian women at my school with her bottom caked in feces....

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Gracehi, you are right on target. The problem with unions is that they force employers to hang on to worthless employees so a no-good bum gets to keep a job at the expense of a better worker and to the detriment of the employer. No industry is more rife with this than teaching, as you have pointed out. For far too many teachers, the day they receive tenure is also the last day they do a lick of work. One of our local districts has been involved in a protracted contract dispute and the monst

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@39 - You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. If you fuck up, you get fired, Union or no Union. Union contracts are still contracts and still detail the duties the worker has to carry out to maintain employment. In most cases, teachers don't get tenure. At all. What's more, teachers that do literally no work at all do still get fired. The US Education system suffers from gross under staffing, an outdated core curriculum, a severe lack of education of the arts, lack of after-school program

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@29 - Awesome. You had one shitty teacher. They exist, and they're pretty much always going to exist. Oh, and by the way, just because you fire that teacher doesn't mean there's another one to replace her. There are few jobs more thankless than a high school English teacher, and the pay is just too low for some people to survive on. It's certainly not enough to justify the cost of a College education.

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I was speaking from my personal experience, which is one of many examples. I've had other worthless teachers. She was just the worst one. But my experience clearly proves beyond a reasonable doubt that unions and tenure can keep undeserving people employed. There are many cases similar to the one I described in which a teacher undeserving of their job continues to get paid, such as a case in New York in which a teacher was permanently suspended WITH PAY for sexually harassing students. He gets p

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Come to Pennsylvania or New Jersey. You'll love it. Six figure salaries, guaranteed pensions that they contribute nothing to, unlimited sick and vacation time (yep, vacation during the school year, hey they need a break), an outrageous number of holidays and breaks, zero contribution to the finest health care plan available, a minimal work day and accountability to no one as written into the contract. Too lazy and cheap to get a real master's degree but want the bump in pay? No problem. Get

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OP resigned, he/she wasn't fired. What the boss did could result in legal action though . Makes this whole thread pointless, but still interesting.

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What a bitch or bastard! Unprofessional to say the least. Sorry OP. Clearly you'll do better at another job...you can only go up from there. Good luck!

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OP probably does already has a new job lined up. In this economy, shitty job or not, the rule of thumb is that you don't quit without having something new lined up for you.

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30 - OP is from Australia. Our economy is doing great at the moment. Even so, always best to have another job lined up before you quit.

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The boss is God in the office. OP going up against that is like a ant trying to lift a planet - he could try, but in the end he is too weak and powerless.

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But can you imagine taking it to court? "My boss hurt my feelings by being happy I quit" ..........

Yay! He was able to get rid of you without firing you, so no unemployment benefits and no lawsuits from you. A boss's dream! Do you know the song, "Take This Job and Shove It?" Well, you've got two weeks to learn it, and it's the best way to go out.

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Perdix, you are absolutely right. There are two easy, efficient ways to unload a garbage employee. The first is to induce them to quit. The second is to highly recommend them for a promotion in another department. Smart managers choose the first option. The second one only works the first time. Once you have successfully tricked another manager into taking a shitty employee off your hands, they are onto you and will not keep that information to themselves, so your own ability to be promote

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I was forced out of a job before. New management came in and a bunch of us were forced out. We all had fun screwing with the management on our way out. I mean what were they going to do, fire us? Oh noes a week vacation before the new job starts. I should add that none of us were shitty employees. They could just get other people in to do our jobs cheaper and they chose to do so. And some of us actually had ethics which the company didn't seem to share. We fought when it came to misleading consu

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