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2012 could be either 5015 or 5105 upside down. 5015 flips numbers only, and 5105 is turn the thing upside down. So what 27 said is right if he meant the first upside down.... :) I dont really har anything to say sbout the fml... Dx

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It would be 5015 if you rolled it (which really only works if printed on glass, but 5105 if you go 180. (which would be how it would be done on stone) And who buys an Xmas tree online. Except maybe if it's fake.

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you don't buy it anywhere. you go out with a machinegun and find a tree you like. you then shoot said tree at the bottom and carry it home. That's the Christmas spirit.

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Because Wal-Mart has crappy products and if you wanted better quality that'll last longer, instead of a quick item that will most likely be broken or in bad condition.

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60- "Science" is not perfect, because people are not perfect. It is often wrong, and unfortunately politically motivated, misrepresented, and falsified at times. No, I don't believe the world will end in 2012, but I can't deny it. Hell, the world might end tomorrow, but I'm not one to say whether it does or not. My point is that sometimes, fully trusting and relying on modern science is just as wrong as fully trusting and relying on ancient beliefs. Plus, even if it was proven that the

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Ah the science v religion argument. To quote Richard Swinburne, "I don't question that science exists, I ask why does science exist". Sorry for being a pretentious battysleeve :(

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Just throwing this in there.. I just got back from Mexico where I went to the Ancient Mayan Capital Chichen Itza. 2012 was the main topic. The Mayans NEVER said that the world will end or anything of that sort. What the ACTUALLY said was "the world will change as we know it". It is based on the Mayan calendar. Every several thousand years, the Mayans will destroy everything they own because when all of the planets align, that is a "sign" to restart a new life. They tear down

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Thank you desireev, that is true too. I also remember hearing about the earth entering a new phase, (something to do with astronomy) but I'm really not sure, so I would be glad if someone could clarify that. Also, I don't see this as a religion vs. science argument at all. It's more like science vs "science".

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Shrooms- it is all a science. On December 21st, 2011, all of the planets, together, are supposed to align. Which will cause an eclipse that will be so powerful that it will knock the earth off it's axis by 1% at the most. Not much really, but when you think about how big Earth is, 1% could change the world up ALOT. Glaciers could melt and cause the ocean to become much larger, therefore, causing floods and continents to collapse in to the ocean. Or cause earthquakes and volcanoes to erupt, etc..

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For the 2012 bullshit: The mayans did not have a leap year. We would be in 2013 without said leapyears. So, the world should have ended about 5-6 months ago. Thus is my disbelief in 2012. (don't tell that to my parents)

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I would keep a Christmas tree up all year round if I could. I already keep the lights on the banister of my stairs up. :) pretty Christmas lights.

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Why does everyone think suing is the only way to solve things? It's stupid if you ask me. Don't buy from the company again if you don't like the way they do things. Unless you were told when you bought the item that they would deliver in a certain amount of days/hours and they failed to do so then you have no right to complain. I know it's expected that holiday items should arrive in time for the holidays, but that's not always how it works.

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