By Anonymous - 16/06/2012 00:00 - United States - Medina
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I hate how they limit the length of comments -_- Part 1- I'm sorry to be the one to point this out. It's fucked up the guy hit his girlfriend, but what does that have to do with Jersey Shore? None of the cast members has hit a woman. In one particular episode, a drunk guy at a club hit Snooki, and it was heavily (and rightfully) frowned upon. The guy was arrested, and every cast member, male and female, came to Snooki's defense. The show DOES show men disrespecting women. It is normal for the guys to bring home a different woman every night and treat her like crap if she doesn't have sex with him. But the show does not advocate hitting women. Im just annoyed that your son gets arrested for punching his girlfriend and your first thought is "Yep it's that Jersey Shore."
Part 2 Obviously there are outside factors in raising children, but you can't blame society for everything. How about you sit down and talk to your son? Nine times out of ten, if he's old enough to buy liquor, he's too old to be that heavily influenced by a tv show. Look at YOUR parenting, and sit down and have a chat with your son. All the commenters here are so caught up in bashing Jersey Shore that they've ignored your knee-jerk reaction to blaming a tv show when your son obviously has SERIOUS issues.
199- I dislike jersy shore because whenever I go to the actual jersy shore (near where I was born) everyone gives me a freaked out look and I have to explain that it's actually a nice place. That show gives New Jersy as a whole a bad name, and I only watched it once! Ok... Rant is over. Carry on.
197/199...sorry, however I only read the first few lines of your comment, if I wanted to know about "JS"...I would watch that trashy show. OP, should leave her dumb ass son in jail until he grows up. And maybe you could do something more productive other than watching trash tv, just my opinion, don't go and get pissy. =)
Seriously, I grew up in New Jersey, and I repeatedly have to explain to people that the entire state is *not* full of fake-tanned, duck-facing, douchebag morons like on the TV show. OP, I'd leave his sorry ass to rot in jail. Maybe I'd consider bailing him out if he were genuinely remorseful and promised to seek counseling or therapy to help with some serious anger-management issues. But no, apparently he's just a douchebag who chose to emulate other douchebags he saw on a TV show.
245 - I'm an idiot for saying that OP should take responsibility for raising his son, rather than blaming a tv show for his son (who was caught at a liquor store, so I assume he is at least 21) PUNCHING A WOMAN? The guy should absolutely rot in jail, I wholeheartedly agree. But, again, I don't see what Jersey Shore has to do with this. Replace "Jersey Shore" with "video games" or "the media" or any number of things and you would all be singing a different tune. But I'm an idiot for calling out OP on making an irrelevant connection to Jersey Shore and his asshole of a son. Right.
[email protected]: I'm not calling you an idiot because of you pointing out that the irrelevance of how this FML is related to Jersey Shore, I'm calling you an idiot because of how irrelevant it is for you to point out Irrelevance of how this FML is related to Jersey Shore. Although most 21 year olds I know may uphold some family values and traditions, they aren't really a product of what their mother or father has made them to be anymore. Yes, Jersey Shore may not have had anything to do with the FML, but I'm pretty sure I'd still be saying "Fuck My Life" if I had found out my son had been arrested for such a petty and, for lack of a better word, disgusting crime as was committed. Yes, Jersey Shore may not have anything to do with it and I'm sorry that you're butthurt because someone said something bad about your favorite show, but I just don't understand why you're so hung up as to why Jersey Shore was mentioned instead of the media. It takes nothing away from the FML.
Thank you Dr. Phil . If you have or are planning to have children , then you would know that the media and society itself does influence the way kids act . Parenting isn't the only factor that determines how a child is as a grown up, but also the things they see around them on a daily basis .
I don't understand how women want to be treated equally if everyone including women think that men are scum for hitting a girl but they are "manly" for hitting a guy... it makes no sense essentially you are calling women a weak sex.
50 if you let a kid watch spiderman, they would most likely try to act like spiderman no matter how wellypu raise him. OP might have made a mistake by letting their child watch a show like that but you can not always make sure your kid does good things. I don't think what OP's son actions did had anything to do with how OP raised him.
Hitting anyone is unnecessary, but I think the reason it's such a big deal if a man hits a woman is because, physically, many women are built smaller and weaker than some men. (I know there are exceptions-you go ladies!) This is not to say the female gender is weak, because only a moron could say women don't do hard work. (Hello, pregnancy and kick ass women doing so called "men's jobs") I look at it this way, though. I am pretty sure I'm done growing at 5'4" and 110 lbs. If the average man hit me, I couldn't retaliate, really. And he'd be an asshole. :P it's not a feminist standpoint; it's simply the truth. Oh no, I'm over thinking it... It's an fml... Sorry to ramble, everyone:P
You DO have to be 21 in the U.S. unless you live in some super hick place where they regard beer with more reverence than breast milk and wean their children onto it, at a pace that reflects such awe. 135, Did you know that many men are physically weaker than many women? The issue here isn't about hitting weaker people. It's that there is a double standard for men, (yes, I know, just like there are double standards for women), and yet anytime anyone tries to bring it up they get booed down like they said something wrong. This site is a perfect example. Almost half of the buried comments on this fml are about exactly this inequity and yet no one realizes how hypocritical it is to be outspoken about the equality of women but thumb down those talking men. A perfect example of this is the statement a few comments down, "A man that hits a woman is not a man." A far better way to get the meaning of this statement across is to say, A person that hits
A far better way to get the meaning of this statement across is to say, A person that hits a weaker person, deserves no respect but instead, even today, the "person deserving of respect" and "man" are interchangable words while "weaker person" and "woman" are just as equivalent. Its's the overall issue with chivalry, as it's a system based in the belief that women are incapable of helping themselves. Asking to be treated with chivalry is the same as asking to be treated as less than a "person deserving of respect."
The laws must be different there... I was allowed to go into a liquor store before I was of legal age to drink. Shopkeepers even asked if I wanted any help, told them I was looking at liquor for my 18th, going to buy when I had my birthday, and they didn't even bat an eyelash at it.
178/179- Chivalry is dead. No, really. My boyfriend and I are mutually respectful to each other and that's how many relationships are now. It also does not come from women being weaker. It comes from the time when men were knights. Also, I find it hard to believe many women are stronger than men. I don't know any women stronger than their man (not that it doesn't happen, just that it's not often). And finally, when a man punches or hits, he is usually REALLY punching or hitting. That is the problem. If I punched my boyfriend he'd laugh at me cause it tickled. There will never be equality due to the physical and mental nature of each gender but you can't act like men are the victim in it all. It is what it is.
I understand what people mean when they say that the entire gender/hitting issue is a double standard, but it really can't be generalized so thoroughly to men and women. However, if that's exactly what we're doing, I think it's fair and safe to say that as the average woman is a smaller build than the average man, what with testosterone and all that jazz, females really are the weaker gender. But remember, by this we mean physically weaker. Things like pregnancy are matters of willpower and patience, and so in no way does being physically weaker make you the worse gender or anything. It balances out with our ups and downs as each gender. Of course, everything has exceptions, but I think this is the fairer generalization, and of course I myself would never hit a girl (who didn't deserve it [just kidding]).
It probably depends on the state. At 20, I was asked to leave a cigar shop because they happened to sell alcohol too. 186, I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. Knights weren't gloriously principled, paragons of manhood. They were just men, prone to all the same mistakes and appetites of modern day men. They would have a wife and think nothing of being with a mistress because "supposedly" a woman was satisfied with seeing her man every once in a while, but the knight is such an important person that he needed to be satisfied by as many women as he wanted. Also note that I didn't say most women; I said many women. If only 1% of women were stronger than a man then that would still be more than 34 million. How many is many to you? Honestly, all it takes is one for my point to be valid. I never said men "are the victim," I said that there is a double standard being covered up by another double standard and it's all very hypocritical. And finally, are you serious? I promise you, men can pull their punches too if they want. We are talking about people actually hurting other people here, not middle-school flirting techniques. There's also something I'd like to clear up. I am very polite, almost "chivilrous" in my everyday actions, especially to my girlfriend, with whom I also enjoy a mutually respectful relationship. However, I hold the door for both men and women. I don't discriminate between the two, and if a woman seriously attacked me, I'd be ashamed if I didn't defend myself, whatever that took.
Good to know America has such admiring role-models. It's disgraceful how the "stars" on that show are famous and demand to get paid for making an ass of them self. Yet there are honest folk who can barely get by. What's happened to this country?
You do know that the lion sits on his butt in the shade while the lioness's in the pride go and bring home the kill, right? The male lion does nothing until it gets there. The females normally "bring home the bacon". Only male lions without a pride hunt, and that's only cause they don't have the females to do it for them. Just sayin.