By liberatedwoman - 11/08/2009 14:57 - Oman
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Having never read the series, I cannot go into anymore detail than my aforementioned snap judgment. However, your simplistic definition of feminism needs clarification. Free will and feminism are compatible but not mutually exclusive because "choices" amount to anything. If I choose to rob a bank, is that feminism? If I chose to get a degree in physics instead of library studies, is that feminism? From the outside it sounds like that protagonist sacrificed her entire world and personality for a convoluted idea of marriage. (I don't know if she also felt coerced, but maybe.) That might make her an individual but doesn't automatically make her a feminist.
Why the hell are you people using a poorly-developed character from a shoddily-written grocery store romance novel as your central point for a discussion of feminism? Look up some names like Marilyn Monroe, the White Rose of Stalingrad, Emily Dickens, Amelia Earhart. These were real women that changed the world. Not some trumped up little tart in a make-believe world. (If you must have fictional contemporary examples of feminism, look at Hermione Granger.)
109, 114. Thank you. That's all I was saying. She did what she wanted, screw everyone else. 121. We aren't the one's who brought it up. We're just disagreeing that she's an anti-feminist character, not arguing that it's the best writing ever, NOR that she's an awesome example of feminism. Of course there are much better ones. 117, I thought I made it clear that "choices" meant doing what you want with your life within reason, not robbing a bank. And since you haven't read the series, you can't really form an opinion on it. I'm not saying you should, just that the whole thing is subjective, as the many rediculous arguments prove.
Actually 15, a feminist is someone who believes in a woman's choice to do whatever she wants. A feminazi is the type who think every woman needs to be a ceo or she's a disgrace to her gender. OP, odds are, she thinks you're just acting like you know everything and you're annoying her. Otherwise, I'm sorry that your mom is stuck in the 50s.
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I think you're confused about what rights we're talking about. when there's discrimination towards women, it means women might not be allowed to: 1. be a witness in court. 2. own property. 3. have a job. 4. receive education, or are told that women (not the particular woman) are too stupid to study it. 5. vote. they're basic things. we're not talking about women shouting because the percentage of females studying in a certain place is only 35%, and not 50%. treating both equally in every single thing is indeed nonsense. as for the OP - there are definitely people who prefer women like you. don't worry.
#226 please clarify who meant by "we're", because there's feminist out there shouting for that very reason. Feminist have fought for the right to go topless in public, ...why? because men have that right and of course since men have that right and women don't it is seen as unfair. its ridiculous #223 is right
Don't stop being "a liberated woman" everyone should use their brains and being willing to speak in a peaceful manor and have discussions on issues. Besides I would rather date a woman that can tell me that I am wrong and then we can discuss why I am wrong and find common ground. Keep it up, your doing the right thing.
random, you're right, women in more urban and modernized areas DO have the freedom and choice to express their thoughts, but when it comes down to marriage, families don't want a daughter-in-law who expresses her ideas and will go against the elders. Forget any muslim countries, i have muslim friends in the US and although their families value education, they don't want their daughters to show their independence and outspoken ideas in front of other families. In the end, it is all about how much education a daughter has and how she will accept whatever decisions her elders and husband's family makes. They DO have the freedom to express themselves, but it's not how a prospective husband's family wants their daughter in law to be.
Point out to your mom that it'll only make it harder to find an uneducated, redneck husband, and that's not what you want anyways. Being smart will attract a smart, educated man who's not threatened by a woman who actually has brains. Ask her why she wants you to marry a man who would feel threatened by intelligence. Those are the men who beat their wives, after all.
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Wow I sincerely hope you're joking. Women are just as smart as men, and many women are leaders in the fields of science, art, politics, and more. I don't know who you think you are to say something like that, even if you meant it in jest. Why don't you come on back to the 21st century and stop living in the past.
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Show it anywayOh? Because upsetting people for no good reason is hilarious. Especially when it's the group of people you're sexually and romantically attracted to! That'll totally get you places. I dare you to walk into an LGBT meeting and make gay jokes, or a group of black people and make racist jokes, and say you were just trying to be entertaining and funny. Yeah? Won't do it? Thought so.
Actually Sarahbau, while you're right about men having a higher standard deviation, you're incorrect about saying that a woman has the highest IQ. The highest recorded IQ is a Korean man named Kim Ung-yong with an IQ of about 210. The person you're referring to is Marilyn Vos Savant, who's IQ is still a very impressive 186.
Really? We're the bitches? Why, you're too lazy to even use proper grammar. And what the hell entitles you to be so superior? You CAME from a woman you blithering idiot. Women aren't superior, but neither are men. It's jackasses like you that need to stop bitching. What do you know? What do you know about the people who suffered at the hands of bigoted pricks like you. Shut up and crawl back under your rock you sexist pig.
You know women fought for their own rights, don't you? It was people like you that just got in the way. But of course, you're too high and mighty to pay attention to history, aren't you? Women have always been blocked by pigs like you, but that doesn't make all men bad. Thankfully, you are part of a dying breed that is stuck posting moronic, sexist comments on the Internet. You aren't even "man" enough to say that to a woman's face. Just log off, and go jerk off. Because there's no way a girl would date a prick like you.
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Tell your mom to shut the fuck up and that this isn't the 1950's.
Don't stop being "a liberated woman" everyone should use their brains and being willing to speak in a peaceful manor and have discussions on issues. Besides I would rather date a woman that can tell me that I am wrong and then we can discuss why I am wrong and find common ground. Keep it up, your doing the right thing.