By Robert - 01/07/2009 09:37 - United States
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I'm so glad programmers are getting tired of hearing the statement and are coding viruses for Macs. You do realize it's not because Macs have better virus protection, it's because not as many people use them right? There is no benefit of a Mac-only virus if it won't be transfered to the majority of the computers. If you really didn't know that, then I pity you. Steve Jobs has done his job in brainwashing you.
#13: ummm....ok? You're just crazy, you want people to get viruses just because you can't afford or can't get a mac...or you just don't agree with their choices of getting one. I'm sorry, but you are just a hater!! Stop being a freaking Windows fanboy, and I'm not brainwashed...I use a Mac because it fits my needs, but I have a PC too, and my Mac is far better at not getting viruses, and not because they aren't coded for Macs, but because they in fact do have a great antivirus.
Your an idiot, Macs don't stop you from getting a virus...about 70% of the world uses a PC, about 25% Mac and the other 5% Linux/Unix etc.. (numbers are not perfect but they get the point across). If I were to make a virus I would make it for PC's if I wanted to do something. Macs are just as easy to make a virus for as a PC. Its just people aren't idiots, so they go for the OS that most people have. There is a reason Windows is on #1 and sure isn't b/c Mac's are better. What a idiot.
NGM's fanboy statements are amongst the funniest statements I've ever read on this state. I'm gonna have to send you an award for making me actually laugh out loud. "Superior antivirus" lol!!! Can you name this superior antivirus without googling it? Because last I checked, MacOS didn't come prebundled with antivirus; so go ahead and tell me what superior antivirus is on your computer. Now watch as he changes his mind and says "No, wait. I meant to say that macs don't crash unlike windows!" Oh, and for the record, I have almost every OS in existence... I have MSDOS, Windows 3.11, Windows 98, Windows XP Pro (32/64 bit), Windows ME, Windows 2000, Windows Server 2003 (ok, it's old, but who cares), Linspire, Mandrake, Knoppix, Ubuntu, Fedora Core, Mac OS Leopard/Panther/Tiger (not snow leopard though; or whatever it's called), Windows Vista Ultimate (32 bit/64 bit), and... I think that's everything. Oh wait, I actually have Ubuntu Netbook Remix for my Acer Aspire too. Ok, now with that said, what's the best OS out of all of them? Windows XP 32 bit. Yes, you can get viruses from time to time, but if you are vigilant and don't download stuff like "Super Virus Remover Pro Awesome Edition 2012" and other crap, you're safe. So much for "not being able to afford, or can't get" Mac OS X... And just for the record, this is the truth: http://www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20060513
I'm not going to pay $2000 for this imaginary super anti-virus. Yes the Linux Kernel is safer, but its not immune to viruses. A few tweeks here and there and it becomes as vulnerable as the windows kernel if not more. It really isn't that hard. So I could build my own PC for $700 get a free antivirus like Avast, no get any viruses actually get some work done and be happy. Where as if I paid $2000 for a mac the only thing I could get done is turning on the computer. The only reason I would ever get a mac is if I was a graphic designer other than that they are Pieces of Sh**. My favorite quote, this is in reference to a Mac: No matter how much you polish a piece of sh**, it is still a piece of sh**.
I have owned Windows 3.1, Windows 95, 98, 2000, Windows Server 2003 and 2008, Windows XP 32 and 64, Vista Ultimate 32 and 64, and I currently use Windows 7 32 and 64. I have used Mac OS many times and hated it every single time I've used it. I have done programming for Windows and Mac and hated doing it for mac, its a POS system that will never be half as good as windows. this was in addition to my other post I forgot to put it :/
Well I don't give a damn on what you say, my mac fits my needs on video editing with Final Cut Express, while stupid Windows has it's built in WMM...you can buy Sony Vegas and some other programs, but I prefer FCE 4. That's the main reason I have a Mac, however, I like how you don't have to scan for viruses on Macs....so I prefer it. You know my favorite quote in reference to PCs? Ok. "Difference between a virus and windows? Viruses rarely fail."
Ok i think all of you windows freaks need to chill. lets see...in the time i've had my ONE mac computer, my dad has had to buy FOUR windows computers. (i'm refraining from calling it a "PC") mac users don't need to buy $60 spyware kits, viruses for mac's are non-existent. Nobody wants to take the time to code a virus for a mac, and so what if its also because more people use windows. either way, WE WIN. we're not wasting hundreds of dollars and worrying about our computers getting a virus. Also, what's even better about the new macs, is that they can run mac AND windows! imagine that! we can buy our $2000 mac computer, and STILL do all of the things your POS windows computer can as well! Only better. MACS > windows.
Dude..where did she say she wanted people to get viruses? She's right. And, just because you have an excellent anti virus, this doesn't ensure you won't get viruses. If an Anti-virus has not yet found a way to stop a virus, or has not been updated, then your computer won't be protected against that virus. For example, there are so many different types of trojan, that some of them cannot be protected against.
You have to be completely brain dead to think that there are no viruses for the tens of millions of Mac users because they're in the minority. That's like saying "I won't create a soft drink for teenagers because there are more non-teens in the world." The argument would be the opposite: everyone on windows uses anti-virus software, so you have to be very good to circumvent that. Meanwhile, on Macs, nobody uses anti-virus software, so it would be very easy to exploit them. Who in their right mind wouldn't want to make money off tens of millions of people, just because they are in the minority?! Are you brain dead? OS X's infrastructure is sounder, and stronger. You need more user interaction to create meaningful viruses that do significant damage. It's that simple.
Lol what? Do you think a Mac has better antivirus than a Windows computer does? They both have next to no protection at all in themselves. It is true that hardly no viruses are coded for Macs, that is why they are spared. There's not even anything to discuss. That said, both Mac and Windows sucks. Too bad Windows has such a huge share on the market right now, so most games and commercial programs are made for Windows. I really don't want to use WINE.
Ahhh the computer flamewar that's raged on for years. Honestly, they both have advantages and disadvantages. Whichever is better for you and the uses you want it for is your choice and opinion you are entitled too. However, the chances of a Mac getting a virus are slimmer than PC not because of less people using Macs, but that PC's and Windows software are more open. Apple computers and OS are sealed off tight, making Macs actually safer (but not COMPLETELY safe)
let me make this simply for the mac vs window thing 1 mac=$2000 1 hp laptop $400-$800 i would prefer to have 2 laptops $1600 and you dont need an 60 dollar antivirus but lets say you want it that makes a total of $1720 and $280 left to spend on what ever the fuck you want so what do you prefer a mac or two windows laptops plus $280 and mac sucks ball becuase most programs are windows only so fuck you lol
WOW!! #110: What a bitch!! I tried ending the freaking argument by saying I don't care anymore cause everyone has their own computer based on their needs, but uneducated retards like you kept going and going!! Why don't you shut the fuck up you piece of shit, go die in a hole!! I tried to stop, but you ALL had to keep going...FUCK YOU #110!!
@110: totally agreed. @NGM_47, i think the only thing that started this flame (and yes, i can't believe i read the whole thing either) is that you implied on one of your first posts that Macs did not get virus' often because they had superior anti-virus software, among other ludicrous and uneducated claims. please check wat you write before you write it @everyone who wants to comment negatively at my comment (including grammar-nazis): no you.
First of all, I did not say it was a software...(idk where this comment went, it was after my second comment) I said that UNIX based computers such as Macs had a better antivirus (which is not meant as software) and because it is hard to get coded for. Then, I tried to explain that if you like your PC and it fits your needs then it's ok, but then everyone just kept arguing with me so I kept going...if you read it, you would realize I tried to stop.
Anyone trying to say that Macs are cheaper than other PCs is just lying to themselves. Macs are internally identical to any other PC. OSX doesn't magically make your PC last longer. It's all preference but a $1000 Macbook is only about as powerful as a $700 HP. Decent antivirus software can easily be found for free.
YOU'RE ALL IDIOTS Windows has it's faults MacOS has it's faults GNU/Linux has it's faults The only intelligent people in this argument are the programmers who've actually used more than one operating system in their lives. I personally prefer GNU/Linux, but I don't go around spewing claims like "LINUX GETS NO VIRUSES BECAUSE ITS BETTERR!!!!1" or "ONLY PROFESSIONAL PROGRAMMERS USE LINUX!!!!!" Seriously, that's exactly what you, NGM, are doing. You make all Mac users look like idiots with your unproven claims about this imaginary OS X antivirus. This goes to all Mac fanboys: YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM HAS FAULTS. DEAL WITH IT.
Well sorry, gosh! And yes, I know I use exclamation points a lot but it doesn't mean I'm yelling. I will admit that my comments got out of hand but you guys kept telling me off when I tried to stop. And yes I kept going, but only because I didn't like that you guys kept going after I had said that we should stop. Like someone mentioned, I did make the first opening comment, however, I didn't want to start a freaking war over this....I admit that my "superior antivirus" thing got out of hand (even though I never said superior antivirus, I said better antivirus) but you guys took it too far. So yes, I admit I was wrong, but I still like my Mac....Happy now?
ah. #35. wouldn't it have been cheaper to have bought a mac in the first place instead of buying all the crappy windows programs? and seriously macs are meant for creative people....not people who make dragons sculptures out of peanut butter in there parents basement.
@151 What? Pretty sure I've never done that. Anyway, I use Windows because it's inexpensive, it works with what I need it to (especially when it comes to my Blackberry, RIM still hasn't released software for Mac), it's compatible with my work computers, and costs less than half of what a Mac does. I'm no fanboy. I have an iPod, and my HTPC uses MythTV, a Linux distro.
I have a mac, and I got this virus a couple of months ago. I was just on google images looking for pictures to put on a power point presentation for school when a pop up came up that claimed that my computer had multiple viruses and that I should download something called "Mac Protection". It didn't look reliable, so I googled it and found that it was a fake virus protection system for the Mac, and that if I didn't do anything, it would just go away. As it turns out, it stayed for about a month and would have little pop ups telling me to pay for the fake protection system and at the same time a porn site popped up periodically every fifteen minutes on the dot. I love my mac, but this was annoying as hell.
YDI you probably got the viruses from going to look at porn during work lol
Well, he is talking about a fake anti-spyware program "that cluttered the screen". Those are typically distributed via banner-ads - you need to be stupid enough to be fooled by them and explicitly allow the program to install. Who hosts dubious banner ads like these? Not reputable web sites, for sure - so yes, in all likelihood he was visiting porn sites. I don't think that's morally reprehensible, but it isn't really necessary to do that on a work laptop. In general: if you are using a computer as part of your job, it's your responsibility to learn the basics of computer security. If you are unable to do so on your own, then take a class. How many car mechanics do you know who can't operate a socket wrench? You need to know the tools of your trade, too.
I was hoping to comment before someone says "get a mac" but I'm too late. I'm sorry but nowadays you almost have to purposely infect your computer. Avoiding a virus is not at all difficult.
To clear this up before the comments get out of hand, Macs are not immune to viruses. UNIX based operating systems are more secure than Windows, and that includes Apple's OSX, but it also includes every distribution of Linux. However protecting a Windows machine from infection is very easy. All you have to do is install decent anti-virus software and avoid shady websites. Even though the pop-ups were pornographic, that doesn't mean that the virus was obtained from a pornographic website.
I agree. I use Fedora on my desktop, but Windows XP on my laptop because of school. There are a good deal of good antivirus and firewall software for windows that can be found FREE. So you don't have to spend more money to protect a computer running Windows. I have had my laptop for three years now. I have never gotten a virus, never had a BSOD, and have never had it crash on me. People who have those problems just have no idea wtf they're doing.