it was their first one. it was worth a shot. that's respectable. it's sad when people give up without even trying

I was gonna think of a good comment but gave up *rolls eyes* *sighhh*

Pentrium? And why do you have FML heroes? Pathetic.

And this, is why we have counselling. This situation can only end in 2 ways.

Why be a hater yummy rich kid? Pentium's answer was really good, there's nothing wrong with people admiring people with good opinions. If you judge that it may be rich but it's not yummy.

You're right, if the husbands gonna act like a douche bag then why bother. It won't work, she can probably do better anyway.

Or maybe the husband needs a new wife??

One does not simply get a new spouse.

I here Walmart has spouses.

Hear*

I take "the" out of Psychotherapist.

Isn't marriage a balancing act? It isn't about her "bending over" for her husband needs,maybe counseling isn't his thing.What can work for her doesn't work for him....and I'm truly surprised at how your commenting on this one your usually so cheerful

All I know is that in order to have a functioning relationship, both sides have to compromise and do everything as a team. 50/50 (:

But they can only do that if they're BOTH willing to try. If he's not willing to get help through counseling, what other options are there? It's obvious that he either doesn't think there's an issue, or he doesn't care enough to fix it. I understand trying to make a marriage work, but that only happens when they BOTH try. Not just one of them trying and the other one rolling their eyes and blatantly being rude to the person trying to help them.

nice pic.

36 there are other ways to fix problems; counseling isn't the only option. I personally would not be able to go through with counseling for anything, I don't like sharing my personal thoughts with strangers, and I don't like the idea of paying someone to talk to them. It's a personal preference. The wife could go to counseling on her own if that's her thing. Together they could sit down and have discussions without the third party. They could make a list of their problems and select compromises to them. In the days before counseling became so mainstream, people had to work through their problems by themselves. His responses don't mean he doesn't care; whenever I've been forced to see a counselor I respond in the same way. They should try to find something that works for both people.

And to go along with 32 and 35, no matter what person does the most in the relationship, they hold the least amount of power. And besides, a 50-50 relationship never exists. It's a nice romantic idea, but an idea nonetheless.

Win!

Oh please that shit doesn't work, I went through counseling too. I don't like sharing my problems with other people...who cares I'm crazy. :DDDD

It works if you allow it to.

Counseling absolutely savesd my marriage. I'd you go in with a bad attitude towards it nothing will get fixed but f you're willing to try it can work wonders.

Thts very true... WIN

Wow I did not realize I had so many typos in that. Sorry guys. Please don't smite me. Yay phone keyboards!

I don't like it how schoolday humour has made me reflexively read 'therapist' as 'the rapist' :/

That's what I was thinking! Everyone's being harsh on the husband but maybe counseling isn't his thing.At least he cared enough to go

In some states you can't get a divorce unless you have participated in counseling. Him going doesn't prove anything about his love for her. If he were at least genuinely participating even if he complained later, then I would buy that. You'd be surprised how many people in this country are too lazy or broke to get a divorce. He may have the wrong idea that just going will make his wife satisfied that he's doing "what she wants", possibly buying him a few more years.

No to both of you. I wish there were a word stronger than "no" so I could convey just how stupid your suggestions are. **** no? Hell no? NOOOOOOO? Therapy may not be his thing? Just going shows that he cares?? No. No it does not. All he's doing is putting up a show while proving he doesn't give a ****. This is a marriage, people. Those people that you supposedly committed your life to are supposed to be worth fighting for. This guy isn't fighting worth a damn.

Actually, I said him going doesn't prove anything as well. Please read posts before telling someone "how ******* stupid" they are.

Josie - I could not have read your post, as it did not exist while I was writing mine. My apologies. My comment was not directed at you.

If you don't click with a therapist or you're reluctant about it at first, it won't work. It was their FIRST session. He probably just needs time to get into it or find a therapist he likes better. When my husband and I went to our first session he was very skeptical and didn't say a whole lot. It took several sessions for him to open up and really participate. Now when we go he talks more than I do and he's made some huge changes in his behavior. It just took awhile for him to be ok with it. He didn't want to go originally but he did it for me and it was one of the best things we've ever done. If OP's husband is willing to keep going a few times he might open up and things might get better. He's not an ass over the FIRST session. If he still does this 5 sessions in, then yes he's an ass , but not yet.

Doc - didn't account for post lag. My apologies as well. Thought that "both" was at the 2 responses.

I'm glad you speak for everyone there's 7 billion people on the planet so it is possible it's hard for this guy, just because their married doesn't mean counseling will be easier in fact it's probably harder call me what you want but I think your narrow minded

I disagree with you doc for one you know nothing about these people or if he has tried before or what's going on. He's there so you can't just say he's not trying because you feel like it. You completely disregard that the wife is sitting there watching every move he makes judging everything he does instead of focused on the counseling like she should be. Maybe he doesn't believe they have a problem maybe she's overly critical of him. She's obviously more concerned about every little twitch he makes than the actual information

"he's there" and? So what? he's there and not making an effort, so he may as well not be there at all. If I had to do a project with a partner, showed up at their house but didn't do anything to help, do you think "well, I'm here.." would go over well? Of course not. Think of this counseling appointment as their project. so what if he showed up? He's not doing anything to try and contribute, so she would have every right to be frustrated with him. She was looking at him to see if he agreed, as would a majority of us. The fact that he felt it was appropriate to roll his eyes and basically treat the session as a joke is inexcusable.

Maronofhearts - I'm not saying he's not trying because "I feel like it". I'm saying that because HE'S NOT ******* TRYING. Try reading the story again before you try calling me out. I don't know what you think you know about a marriage and what it takes to keep it doing, but it appears to me that you haven't a clue.

Likely all that's going through the husband's mind is "200 an hour, do your shit and get me outta here. She talks all day and now I have to pay 200 an hour to listen to her talk to someone else? This is bullshit." Try individual sessions, and a male counsellor. It's easier to get people to open up in private, to someone they can relate to.

"It's not in his genes?" Are you stupid? Or just ignorant? Genetics doesn't determine if someone is too big a douche to even try. That's called laziness.

A more talkative man.

We can fix him we have the technology