By hoboman - 02/09/2009 15:12 - United States
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That's okay. There are always outliers, and more importantly, there are always other jobs, with more sane people administering them. You play the best hand you can, because it will more often than not work out, even if not every time. Hindsight is 20/20, right? Just because you do everything right doesn't mean everything will always go right. That's luck for you.
Let me get this straight. Art restricts you from looking presentable? Please remind me when dressing nicely started inhibiting creativity. Yea you can choose to dress like a hobo, but wearing a polo or something doesn't exactly diminish the artist. Your comment kind of makes me think "must be and/or act poor to be a good artist"
I agree with 1, but at the same time, I disagree. Clean yourself up while keeping in your style. Making your hair neater instead of cutting, trimming your beard instead of completely shaving, and still buying a suit, would have made you less restricted-seeming, but still presentable, and you wouldn't have changed your style. What 1 was implying (I believe) is that you shouldn't pretend to be what you are not. If OP is a care-free person, which are usually the kind that do the "hobo" style without being a hobo, presenting himself as a clean-cut business tycoon (or wannabe tycoon) is deceptive, suffocating of his true self, and would eventually come to bite him in the ass in some fashion. If he had gotten the job, how far into it would he discover he hated himself/his work because he forced himself/he has to come in starched every day, or how long would it take his superiors to notice the real him? Ironic how it turned out though.
melozburngr - i don't know what "real world" you live in, but it clearly doesn't include the art world. its been said numerous times during my design education NEVER to attend an interview in a classic suit, pantsuit, or skirt and blazer. and i've had bosses that say they would never have hired someone who came in wearing a suit. point is, you have to research the company you are working for - if they are a cool, hip, "free spirited" creative company, they will not want you to apply in a suit. showering, looking clean YES, but you have to show that you understand what kind of a place you're applying for, and that you fit in with the vibe of the place. in the art world, its not just about a portfolio, but if you understand the feel and spirit of the company you're working for, since its the creativity that needs to jive with them, not just the appearance. ...and for the record...not many creative graphic design companies in general "adhere to strict business dress code policies".... most places DO in fact allow their employees to wear band tshirts and cargos.....
I am an artist, and I say LOL WHAT "YOU DON'T DESIGN ART"? lmfao Art is more than just a pretty picture. Art is writing; an essay, a poem, a novel. Art is sounding; singing, storytelling, musical instrument playing. Art is designing; a graphic, a pattern, a character, a pretty picture. And of course, art simply includes the above, and is most certainly not limited to. Movies, games, plays, dances... all forms of art, too.
I've never had anyone point out directly why I wasn't hired. You sure you wanted to work for these a-holes?
I've always gotten some 'canned' reason, usually via a form letter. You can't take it seriously or personal and you certainly can't please everyone. If he came in all 'free and creative', they probably would have said he wasn't professional enough. Though I can see where a design firm could have different standards of attire.
Or the "free-spirited" and "creative" remarks were because of the interview and not because of how you looked.
I don't. Especially the anonymous trolls without pictures. That really makes it hard for me to take someone seriously. Thank you, by the way. I get lots of shit for my pics, but I know I'm pretty, so I just laugh at the jealous bitches. Also, who got pissed? Everyone just pointed out how wrong you are.
Um, no, I can't. The tone I got from it was, "Ha, pathetic people. Whatever." I saw your picture. You're somewhat attractive. I'm not going to insult you based on something that isn't true. So I won't call you ugly. I'll just call you really lame. Throwing about random insults? Maybe you're more insecure than you want us to think.
I can see where you could get that, the insecurity. As if I were in your position, I'd probably also use that as defense. But really, if you look up, I didn't even look at your picture and just because you say something that amuses -yourself- on the internet doesn't mean that you're insecure. You should know that, I've seen you throw some insults. Although they probably were more concrete .. in a way (:
Exactly. Thank you, MercyFML. People who just go around insulting people for "fun" are really pathetic. It's not my fault people are either jealous or insecure. I mean, either insult me on something more true (like the fact that I'm on here so often, since you uncreative idiots need help), or just stop being immature.
Thank you, #67. Ok, it's one thing to JOKE. I set myself up for the "that's the only kind of guy you're getting" comment. However, most people would make it more obvious that it's not serious. I insult people a lot, but not random people just for whatever reason. I don't just look around and find someone and be like "You suck. Hahaha."
I am not personally hurt by your comment, not in the least. I just feel the (probably too idealistic) urge to tell you the way you act isn't appropriate. I can't help feeling a duty to at least make some attempt at making you realize that saying things like that isn't cool. I don't know why. If it fails, it fails. At least I can say I tried.
I just love the idea of Hobo Chic -- the look and smell of real hobos without the poverty or the true insanity. Did you like my shirt? It's a Ralph Lauren Hobo. The logo is not a guy on a polo pony, it's a guy head-first into a dumpster yelling obscenities at an 18-foot-tall invisible gerbil called Joe. The cologne is nothing but bottled urine.
Plexico...that...was brilliant. You are the comedic master of this site. All hail. *Bows down* I love the idea as well. If Ralph Lauren doesn't beat me to it, I'm going to open that line. I'll promote the fragrance with a Britney Spears inspired flashy commercial. "Daring. Exotic. Cheap. Au de Hobo."
Thank you, Toxi. Actually, I studied French for a WHOLE year, so, I'm like, y'know, practically fluent. The cologne would be "Eau d'Hobo" and the pronunciation would be priceless: OH-DOH-BOH. PLV! Pour la victoire! (Merde, I hope that's right. There are a lot of real French people reading this.)
Because, most people who go around putting others down as their way of entertainment (e.g. verbal bullies in schools) do it because they are insecure and afraid, or haven't received enough encouragement from parents. There are some people who are just rude and mean, but most of them have problems with themselves that make them want to talk shit to feel better.