By pat - 09/03/2010 19:41 - United Kingdom
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I don't wanna start a my-country-is-better-than-your-country debate, but you can't just say that a country of more than 300,000,000 people spread across thousands of miles "sucks". Sure there are some bad places. But there are more good places. England, however, is a small, overpopulated island that is past it's prime. But when it was in it's prime, it had the distinction of being the biggest dick on earth by subjugating millions of native people.
This is nothing. I once had a goverent job keeping Elvis impersonaters and whatnot off the streets and I saw a Rosie O'Donald impersonator. I told him that he needed to leave and that it was a bad impersonation since I could totally see his balls through his spandex pants and he had an odd mustache. The next day, I was fired. It turns out, that WAS Rosie O'Donald and it filed a complaint. I have never worked for the govenrment since.
That goes to show what fine work and information our taxes are paying for.
I don't see the problem. He didn't mean homosexual. Word meanings change. GAY originally meant HAPPY. So those POOR happy people should feel so offended! No. Words can have two meanings, and meanings change over time. It's just like if he called it lame. The crippled people would be offended. It's not an attack. Not everything has to be a reason to take up arms against something so petty. Sheesh. (And yes, I'm 193247843298734% for gay rights and equality)
Toxi, I usually agree with you one-thousand percent, but... Sure, it has two meanings, but the context clearly suggested it wasn't happy. "Your city is happy." ? These days, gay can either mean homosexual or the immature teenage way of saying stupid. It rarely means happy anymore. Having gay mean both homosexual and stupid isn't a good thing.
I wasn't referring to 'happy' as the intended meaning. I was referring to 'unappealing'. To me, those two meanings of 'gay' don't cross in any way, shape, or form. I don't think people who use it that way are trying to offend homosexuals. It's a totally different thing. Two words. One spelling. Why does it matter that gay means two different things? Is that REALLY something to complain about? "Oh, a word that could be used to describe me has another, totally separate meaning that is negative. Boohoo." I'm bi (or...bi-curious or something, whatever, just not straight) and I'm not even mildly offended by it. To me, it's just the same as 'lame', 'douchebag', 'pussy', etc. I mean, when someone calls another a douchebag as an insult, do all the women who douche get offended? Nope.
I'm just saying that using a word that can be used to describe somebody's sexual orientation as an insult isn't P.C. because there's probably a reason why that particular word began to mean something negative. I never said that people can't use it. They can if they want. I see your point, and I hope you see mine. Sheesh. What started off as a joke turned into a serious discussion :P I was only trolling at first, but damn.
Word meanings are not supposed to be changed. People who change it are idiots. The definition if gay is homosexual and happy. That's all it should and will mean forever. You cannot change the meaning of the word, only make a new one to work with a definition. They speak slang because they are lazy and don't learn the language they speak. That's all I'm going to say, people need to stop trying to make words mean something there not!
#54, I daresay you're trolling. But I'll throw you a bone. People who change word meanings are idiots? So....everyone in the entire world, yourself included, is an idiot? You sound quite cynical there. Besides, "gay" meant happy before homosexual. So, it was ok to change the meaning the first time, but now it's not? Jeez, you're just a total dumb fuck, huh?
I would have to formally agree, here. I'd say the same goes for 'cunt', why do women get so offended by this word? I have never actually found it that derogatory. I believe, where their arguments are coming from, would be that "gay" is not defined in a dictionary; as "something lame". Mass public, will take the word in context, if you say an item is "gay" you are not saying it's "homo." Where it can get complicated, parse, would be if you called some one gay, not meaning homo. It could very easily be taken that way, depending how well you know the person etc.
Biohazard, pendatic IS British. Word meanings evolve all the time. I see Mermaid's point and Intoxi's. Gay evolved to mean homosexual probably because of the stereotypical effete homosexual prancing around happily. It is now developing a negative connotation because of the negative feeling towards homosexuals. I personally don't think the word is offensive but I don't offend easily. Words only have the power we give them and everyone has a different level of sensitivity.
@115 I know...I just read the whole thing nd I'm like y da fuc* r these ppl having a conflict over the word GAY I mean I use it all the time!! this convo is soo GAY! all that's left to say is anyone who bothered to explain wat gay means has no life sooo shut da fuk up!