Oh the times, they are a-changin'
By toelie - 06/11/2017 22:00
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That's great but as you pointed out, your gender isn't visible. If you look like a man, and I greet you as a man, it's not okay to scream at me that you don't feel like a man, because I CANT SEE FEELINGS. It's impossible to not assume a gender/sex because by and large most people identify as one or the other. If I am corrected, I will use desired pronouns, but expecting people to just KNOW what you are is stupid.
Ok Ghostfox follow this train of thought and maybe you will understand my point (I know you will disagree with it but hey) Do you have a penis? Yes you are male. Do you have a vagina? Yes, you are female. Do you have both? Rare but yes you are a Hermaphrodite. All of these things are ok and if you are not happy with what you have you can change. That’s ok too, whatever makes you happy. So yeah you are one of the 3. The other genders are all just bullshit names people give themselves to make them feel special. Gender dysphoria is a thing. All of these other “genders” fall into that. But it is a mental condition that doesn’t change your gender no matter how much you want it to.
True. But usually a hermaphrodite is found out at birth. Then the parents decide if they want a boy or a girl. And then surgery to get rid of one or the other body parts is performed. Hormone treatment is done as well. From then on, the child is either known as male or female. I suppose there are parents who don't do that. But before all this: "I identify as a...." bullshit, it was even more rare than the existence of hermaphrodites.
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Show it anywayRather than resorting to calling me a bigot or insisting I educate myself why not counter my point with actual examples? My points still stand. Your biological sex (legal sex) is your gender. It might not feel like yours but it’s ok to change that if you feel so strongly about it. Not to mention I did say I don’t agree with this “I identify” bullshit. This is because I could identify as a lesbian black woman. Doesn’t make me one. Not until surgery makes me one. So if someone identifies as the opposite gender to what they are but are not willing to change it by surgery then yeah I say it’s bullshit attention seeking. When you have had as much real world experience as me you may see this too. Please give me some examples in your reply and don’t use the standard snowflake response when faced with logic of “you wouldn’t understand” or the I’m not arguing with a bigot line simply because you can’t back up the claim they are not the 3 genders I said in my op and the rest are just a diluted name change of the 3 that fall under a mental condition or at worst an attention seeking idiot who’s trying to feel special when in fact they are just ordinary.
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Calling someone the wrong pronoun is not discrimination. Not hiring them is. Huge difference. Though I have seen you post on topics like this all the time pushing some agenda. I am guessing you are a snowflake Lib who worries more about the feelings of others than facts and reality. And made look at research from both sides instead of just sticking with one side. You are just as bad as those you belittle. There is plenty of research that shows the gender fluid is just a made up thing. Trans is real, fine. Gender fluid is something made up in the past two decades.
I agree with Leeono. You could "identify" any way you want, but what is in between your legs (and maybe on the chest) as well as your brain chemicals and hormones and how your body functions are all your legal gender. It's not that hard. I may not know a lot of stuff, but I am good at science (especially the human body.). I wonder of you can get a book on the endocrine and reproductive systems.
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Oh yes, of course, it doesn't excuse their behavior but a lot of the comments are talking about this as if it reflects on all the "special snowflakes". I'll admit, people are way too easily offended lately but it's like, I...I THINK THIS particular person was just a kid doing a dumb joke.
So guess respect for your elders is a time of the past and your feefees are more important? Lord, society is in trouble. Surr Trans people have been around, though a very tiny percent of the gay community, which is a small percent of the world population, but it is trendy now to think you are a different gender based on how you feel that day. There is a difference between Trans people, who are Trans and will never be the gender they want to be at the automatic level, but this gender fluid is a joke, and not a funny one.
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"Absolutely. Please feel free to politely correct me. It certainly looks better for you than if you were so disrespectful as to yell at me."
The comments are getting a little out of hand so I'm stepping in! Whether or not you like it, many people now see a difference between sex (anatomical) and gender (social). If you feel compelled to comment on the issue, please be kind to each other. Thanks!