By purpleskylight - 27/06/2012 05:29 - United States - Lexington
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72 & 80: It's dangerously naive to assume that medication can't help the OP or anyone else. It's a useful tool for combating depression and other mental illnesses. 81: The "chemical imbalance" theory has long been known to be a scientific fallacy. Drug companies use this theory to explain how their products work, but it's a gross oversimplification of brain chemistry. That said, relying on medication alone is a foolish way to approach any mental illness. Point is: depression should always be taken seriously, and sufferers should always consider seeking both medication and talk-therapy as treatment. Also, always speak to professional practitioners--it's dangerous to try to treat yourself!
141: If synthetic chemicals are what you're worried about you'd best take off for Antarctica or the moon, because everyplace else nearby is already totally contaminated: your food, your water, all the streams and rivers and lakes and oceans, and all the plants and animals. Some of the worst culprits are synthetic estrogens leaching from plastics over the past 60 years: these have been linked to massive drops in the fertility levels of animal species around the world... It's scary shit. If you're not ready to give up civilization and technology yet, then chill out about SSRIs. No, they're not perfect, and yes, they have side effects--but that doesn't mean they can't be used safely nor that they aren't useful in some cases. Moderation mixed with expert supervision is the best policy for your health.
I just told them that I wont take that shit anymore, and then I stopped. Do it yourself, why should they have to do it for you?
Unless you have had to take medication like that, you don't know the feeling. I felt weak because I had to rely on the stupid medications and honestly they didn't even help. I was better when i didn't take them. It doesn't sound that bad but I hated it so much. I agree, most of the time you should listen to your doctor but sometimes listen to your body.
Actually SSRI's, SNRI's and MAOI's are all non-addictive substances. What you may be referring to is the psychological effect known as SSRI Discontinuation Syndrome, which a platitude of double-blind experiments have proven has very little neurological basis. Even then however symptoms are never so severe as seizures and typically include things like dizziness, electric shock-like sensations, sweating, nausea, insomnia, tremor, confusion, nightmares, and vertigo.
Medications didn't help me, instead I almost killed myself with them. I dind't stop taking them because I had the "strenght" to do it, but becuase that I was smart enough to understand that I don't need stuff that prevents me from feeling stuff. It's not like they take away the pain and the things that saddens you. Oh, and those shitty psychiatrist just gave me stronger medications and bigger doses when I told them they didn't help. When I was sent to a new doctor, he agreed that it was better to just stop if I felt it didn't help, that to eat a shitload of medications for no good reasons. It's just that some doctors aren't good enough for anything else than writing recepies for medications.
This just happened to me yesterday. I stopped taking my ssri for 3 days, because of a chemical reaction with an antibiotic. The consequences were horrible I swear. I've just been to the doctor and I'm weaning myself off. Guys don't ever just stop our medication, you'll wish you were dead.
78: I've been where you are. Just know that it's going to get better...but don't discount the use of medications altogether. There are a lot of different meds with a lot of different effects, which can be very useful. Unfortunately, as you know, some doctors rely on chemical prescriptions instead of providing actual care. I don't know what issues you've had to deal with, but my advice is to think twice about trusting any opinions about your care...including your own opinion. I wish you the best of luck!
78 - did you wait at least 6 weeks? They take that long to kick in. If you didn't, and just decided to stop taking them, you gave up too soon. If you did wait six weeks before quitting, I would try again with maybe a different family of medicines. It took me three tries to get the right mix
As a matter of fact I do know what I am talking about and believe me any "withdrawal" symptoms that you may have been experiencing were most likely linked to factors besides the medication. That is unless you were on anti-anxiety meds opposed to anti-depressants. Anti-depressants, specifically SSRI's act to prevent the re-uptake of the hormone serotonin. They do this by blocking the receptor sites so that the serotonin stays in circulation and allows you to feel better. Even if there were adverse side-effects to quitting this process (I assure you there are not) the pills work in a time release which would naturally ween you off anyways. Aside from being a graduate-level psychology student I have used medication in the past to treat depression and I do have first-hand experience. What you might be experiencing is more of a placebo effect where, because you expect side-effects you "experience" them.
Mifflicious-- I went to several psychiatrists after gettin diagnosed with PTSD. I got Celexa (antidepressant) and atenolol (heart med & anti-anxiety med). They both didnt have any noticeable effect except make me a zombie. I was never in a good mood or a bad mood. When i pulled myself off both, and without my doc's approval, people were tellin me i should listen to the doc and stay on the meds. People were sayin im mentally ill. When i got off the meds and lost my temper a few times, people thot it was coz i shud be on the meds...when really it was coz i forgot how to control anxiety and anger. Now, I'm free from PTSD according to doctors. And no drugs. I tell my friends to get off their meds (zyprexa, lithium, halidol, etc) all the time. People need to realize PHARMA's goal and need to fix their diet & exercise regimen.
135: You're right: meds will never cure someone of mental illness...but curing isn't really what the meds are good for (no matter what some drug companies' will try to make you believe). The meds can TREAT SYMPTOMS so that people can learn to deal with their "bad" ways of thinking and behaving that are causing the problem. You learned to deal with maladaptive thoughts, and thus you got through PTSD without meds. That's great, man! But others' cases arent necessarily the same as yours--it's dangerous to assume that meds aren't helping those people. If you want to help your friends, tell them to confront their thoughts...then maybe they'll be ready to kick the meds sooner too.
If you're going to go off your meds you MUST wean down slowly. Half and quarter the pills if you must. And take at least 3 weeks for your body to adapt to each new dose level. Sadly, many docs are not trained to get you off your meds safely. In fact in my country most are taught that psyc meds are a lifetime treatment. They do not believe the brain can heal.
Just because they broke down crying doesn't mean they need to be medicated, some people are just extremely emotional and doesn't mean they are depressed and need to take a chemical substance to improve their life. Those medications can actually cause more bad then good such as creating suicidal thoughts that some people may act on. This is just my opinion of course some people may have a different opinion.
nuh-uh. I made that mistake when I was on Prozac and the withdrawal was VERY bad. It makes you feel worse and just thinking about it makes me sad. but for OP they should stay on their medication or slowly ween off of it. you can't just stop cold turkey. Meds do help mood a lot; unfortunately they don't get rid of the problems in your life
Wow, there you go again for a second time telling him/her to "just stop taking the pills" and "congrats for being able to stop taking them". Do you know this person? How in the world can you tell him/her to stop taking a prescribed medicine? Are you a doctor? I bet not. So drop it!! It's obvious op needs the meds, maybe not the ones he/she is taking, but he/she must need something or the DOCTOR wouldn't have prescribe them to him/her.
Stopping the meds is a freaking longer process than just "stopping". It's a lot harder than you think because you've grown dependent on them. We do praise the people who have been able to stop, if they can get through it, good for them. The side effects and withdrawals make you feel like a hardcore addict and it's not fun. This is pissing me off when people don't know what they're talking about. If you HAVE NOT experienced it, don't say anything.
I wasn't telling anyone to stop, I suggested that she could. She obviously wants to. As well as congratulating the other person, the meds were doing her no good at all and ceasing to take them had a positive affect. She almost killed herself while taking them. Honestly, we just have different opinions. Only I'm respecting yours.
Wow -23!! Wtf!! Since when did people get so ignorant about the mental health industry?? Fact: Each student who has drawn and fired a weapon in school was prescribed an Anti-Depressant or Anti-Anxiety. Meds are very detrimental. Wake up people. Look at who is profitting from the mental health industry!
137: You wrote "look at who is profiting from the health industry!" lol. The answer is "the health industry" obviously. That's not a bad thing...it's just something that needs to be balanced with the public interest. Every kid who every shot someone at school was on meds? Bullshit and illogical. It's bullshit because there've been school shootings since long before there were meds, you just wouldn't hear about it all over the media. It's illogical because you're implying that kids on meds shoot other kids at school, which obviously isn't true in 99% of cases.
Depression is a serious issue, I've battled with it myself and it's not easy! That said, sometimes the medication to help curb depression can have the opposite effect. If you're unhappy on the meds, maybe it's time for a different prescription. Also, there are many natural ways to battle depression, which in the end helped me much more then any pill I ever took. Good luck OP! Sending lots of positive vibes your way!
Since there is documentation on the fact that 50% of people diagnosed with a depression are not depressed I see no reason to take medication, espescially when it comes to teens and young adults, where the amount of misdiagnosed patients skyrocket. Lots of people apparently need medication for beeing in puberty...
Well..you need it, you'll get off of it soon enough, don't worry OP.
There's nothing wrong with needing a little medication!!