By thelistman - 10/10/2009 01:58 - United States
thelistman tells us more.
Also, for the whole story, I had three other people in the car with me when I was caught "running a red light" by 2 cops who were both behind me. I was clearly in the middle of the intersection when the light turned yellow. I have a feeling that the judge was in a shitty mood that day. This was my first ticket I've ever received, and I've been driving for seven years. Even if I was guilty, I don't know why my fine was $1,000 with a license suspension when the original ticket was $75, and no other tickets on my record. This judge is going down.
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Oh wow that really sucks. You should apply for an immediate appeal and find yourself a decent lawyer.
Yes! By all means go hire an Attorney for $2,500 and file a $250 Case Filing fee, plus a $1,000 Bond fee (to guarantee the initial fine is paid if you lose the appeal). And then, you have a 20% chance of overturning the conviction. Listen stupid. Take the $2,750 you would spend on trying to overturn a hopeless case and buy yourself 2750 Lotto tickets. You have a better chance of winning your $1,000 back....
The problem here is any extra law stuff will cost more than $1000. Iit all depends on the importance of having a licence and whether the difference is worth it, because if you he gets a decent lawyer then he'll win (from what his told us) but it may cost him a little, is all.
Yeah but if you're going to take the judge's dumb ass to court, you can also stipulate in your case that he has to pay all of your court fees when you win the case. What a fucking dumbass judge... he deserves to be disbarred if he's living in some fantasy land where cops are model citizens.
It's not that we didn't pick up on the sarcasm, it's that the statement you based your comment on ("that'll teach you not to...") is heavily used in a non-sarcastic manner, and does not structurally work as sarcasm because stressing any word in that sentence with a sarcastic tone would only make the statement sound more earnest.
See if you can get this appealed, it sounds like a mistrial to me.
In a bench trial, the judge is trier of fact. That means he gets to decide which evidence he beliees and how much weight he gives it. So yes, he CAN do that, and no, it's not illegal. Even if the OP manages to get it overturned on appeal, the judge won't face civil or criminal liability for it. You fucking tard.
No offense, but any country where TWO surveillance videos show that a person is NOT guilty, yet the judge still finds them guilty, should overthink their court and justice system. How can he just look at a video and say "Yea, I see that you didn't do it, but I don't believe it" WTF?
You're giving the OP far too much benefit of the doubt. Usually, when people claim a video clearly and conclusively shows them to be innocent, it does no such thing. The problem is most likely not in the Illinois justice system, but in the OP's expectations for a pair of ambiguous videos.