By falconjade - 06/12/2013 17:28 - Canada - Bowmanville
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OP here! The dog got out when the old man who rents out a room in my friends house - though he'd been repeatedly warned not to - let the dog out. The dogs not very well-trained and does not come when you call him, which is why we keep him inside except for when he goes on walks, on a leash. We had all been getting ready for our schools semi formal so we ran out into the cold in bare feet and dresses while we tried to make sure the dog didn't run away. He was running back towards our friends house when the car hit him. My friend lives beside a public school so the dog was hit in a school crossing zone, so there was no reason for the driver to be going fast enough to not be able to hit the brakes in time, but evidently he was. Fortunately the dog is a massive German Shepard. When he got hit, there was a terrifying bang followed by horrid whimpering. We all thought he was going to die. I'm trained in first aid and checked for injuries on the dogs body, and he seemed fine, except for a scrape on his eyebrow, so I took him back to the house. The bumper of the car was knocked clean off and it seems the dog has a concussion but he will live, but the driver keeps showing up to my friends house, who can't afford a vet bill, let alone the repairs cost.
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I think that if he keeps demanding, then your friend should call the cops. He's the one who was driving so fast, and so not only can he be charged for speeding, and harassment, but also be forced by the court to pay for the dog's bills. As they say, the pedestrian always has the right of way, even if it's a dog!
#1, it's a legit question. You're not showing the sympathy, but still. I took my sisters dog to the vet (it was fine, just a routine check up) and saw half a dozen bin bags being loaded inside. Curious I asked what they were, those were the dogs they put down which were run over.
114- Just to be clear, sometimes shock collars are very necessary. I have a German Shepherd that will climb over a 6 foot tall fence. She always comes back, but while she's out other dog owners tend to freak out a bit. She is a very gentle dog and is very well trained otherwise. She has an acre of land for herself, food, water, shelter, and more toys and treats than she needs. Don't tell me I shouldn't own a dog, I love her to pieces.
Shock collars are illegal here and thanks god for that. It takes much more time to train a dog without those ridiculous things, but in the end the dog will obey because it wants to, not because it's afraid. I could probably have taught my dog some stuff in a day with the use of a shock collar, but then he wouldn't have done those things out of love for me, but because he was afraid of what I might do if he didn't obey. How is that right in any way? Instead it took weeks/months to teach him those things, and it's worth it if you have any respect for your dog.
Yes 83, the dog should be on a leash in most cases. Bit dogs do get loose. And mistakes do happen. In residential areas, you shouldn't be driving fast enough to damage your car if you do hit a dog anyway. In more rural areas, many don't have leash laws and it isn't common for some people to let their dogs run if they have a lot of property and the dog is usually good for staying out of the road. While personally, Sid stays on a leash when out unless if in the backyard or dog park, I understand some areas think differently because the laws are different.
It's a shitty situation, but unfortunately it IS the responsibility of the homeowner for a dog in the road. It should be covered under homeowners insurance, however. (If memory serves.)
I don't get why this has so many thumbs down. I guess it could just be because it's not OP's dog, so it isn't their responsibility. But 5 has a point, it is the responsibility of the pet owner to make sure their dog is on a leash. It's a fucking terrible situation, and it doesn't deserve to happen to anyone, but laws are laws. That guy didn't have to be such an asshole, but he was legally in the right, although morally very, very wrong. I feel for you though OP, because you have nothing to do with it.
It really doesn't matter if the dog was on a leash or not :/ Legally, the only way the driver is in the wrong is if he drove up onto the sidewalk to hit the dog. Morally, as is pointed out elsewhere, is another story. I remember a similar case I had to work where the driver was on a country road, and you can imagine how that went.
Not for nothing, but you're grasping at a lot of straws. I know you want to believe the animal/owner are perfectly innocent, because it's shitty to have to acknowledge that just because a person is an asshole doesn't mean they're necessarily wrong (legally, as I specified before). Without the OP responding, there's no way to know for certain the specifics of the situation, but it seems the probability is that the owner/pet were legally in the wrong. It sucks, but it's not useful to pretend otherwise to force a situation to fit your world view.
My moms dog managed to pull out of his harness when he was 6 months old, the driver thankfully only broke his hips and he lived. The driver was very nice and worried for our puppy, but at the time if a problem had arose the law would gave been neutral as all parties showed "reasonable responsibility to obedience of the law".
I'm glad for that, and while I've no doubt there are subtle variations state by state and nation by nation, that seems a reasonable way to go about it. Unfortunately, your case, and cases like it, are an outlier in my experience. Freak accidents happen, but more often than not the situation is a result of something easily preventable.
You're skewing the meaning of what I said. All I did was point out another situation where the driver would legally be at fault because you said there was only one way. And you're right, I don't know exactly what happened so I can't say for sure who's at fault. But don't say that I'm forcing a situation to fit my view when I'm simply making an assumption on I think is at fault based on my experience just like you are.
I think the thing that makes people angry at the driver is the fact instead of apologizing or offering sympathy to the obvious upset owners, he started screaming over them paying for damages. If a child got hit(just an example) you'd expect them to offer sympathies, right? Everyone seems to focus on the legal part.. Also the dog could have run out of the house when the door was opened, it happens all the time.
Am I the one who is super disgusted that people would rather a human being die than an animal? Unless you are all vegan you are a load of hypocrites. Of course it is sad that an animal died, but a human life is worth more than animal life. Stuff like this worries me...
Not always. Sometimes animals mean more to people because humans hurt them in the past. My Uncle had a seeing eye dog that worked with him for ten years before he died of heart disease (the dog, not my uncle.) Trevor was buried and mourned like another member of the family. He always got presents on Christmas, slept in the house, had his own chair in my uncle's house to have meals. That dog was in Christmas pictures and on holiday cards. When my alcoholic cousin died, no one really mourned him. He stole, hurt my little cousin, and made our lives a living hell. We wished Trevor was still alive and not that asshole.