By leah_kascar - 22/08/2016 01:45 - United States - Hialeah

Today, in the class I'm teaching, I assigned my students an essay to complete for homework. One student asked me if I was deducting points for bad spelling. I teach English. FML
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I think that's a fair question depending on the class and what kind of teacher you are. Because if the point if the essay was say, structure. You might take the pressure off of them by forgiving a few spelling errors. I know I had teachers in high school that delayed whole exams by a week because the class as a collective didn't feel prepared and wanted more time to study.

If it's a typed essay, there's really no excuse for spelling errors.

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I think that's a fair question depending on the class and what kind of teacher you are. Because if the point if the essay was say, structure. You might take the pressure off of them by forgiving a few spelling errors. I know I had teachers in high school that delayed whole exams by a week because the class as a collective didn't feel prepared and wanted more time to study.

chrisbeaudoin 26

Idk about you but whenever the teacher asked out class if we want more time to study we all said yes because we never studied in the first place.

that sounds completely accurate!

While is agree that it shouldn't be something like, "Minus two points for every spelling mistake," I do think it's a ridiculous question (once you're out of middle school). If there isn't a clear point deduction system, is that student not going to proofread at all?

They teach English. They're an English teacher. In the US that includes grammar and spelling and spelling will of course be checked. It should be and its usually typed so there will be spellcheck.

"She teaches English. She's an English teacher. In the US that includes grammar and spelling, and spelling will of course be checked. It should be, and it's usually typed, so there will be spell check." -4 points for incorrect subject/verb agreement -2 points for incorrect comma use -2 points for using possessive "its" rather than contraction "it's" Note to FML staff: For all grammar-related FMLs, a red pen font would be appreciated.

I greatly disagree. Bad spelling and grammar negates any argument or message someone is trying to portray through an essay. No one will take it seriously. Sure, it's just school....but people make habits out of this. The common excuse for bad internet spelling and grammar is "it's just the internet" but then if you look at modern resumes their garbage spelling and grammar clearly carries over.

Actually, they used the correct "it's". It's = it is Its= possessive it It may seem backwards, but they were actually correct.

Worst FML ever. It's entirely possible that what you are looking for are thoughts and analysis and you will not be taking off points for mechanics.

mechanics are taught in elementary and middle school and taken as automaticfrom then on. they don't really do serious analysis until high school, and that's only if you're in advanced placement.

Exactly; basic spelling, grammar, and punctuation are all taught from the beginning of a child's education. Once you move on to incorporating more complex writing methods, that is no reason to slack off on the fundamentals. You can write the most insightful rhetorical analysis in your class, but if you're making obvious mistakes on the basics... it's like building a mansion with beautiful architecture out of soggy cardboard. You can compose a piece of writing as nicely as you like, but it's still only as good as your foundational writing skills.

So many people here are arguing that spelling and grammar should be automatic by the time they get to high school, yet their own comments are littered with poor grammar, spelling, syntax...

27, who are you trying to impress with your unnecessary choice of words?

@64 I'm not sure which words you're referring to. Could you point them out for me? Surely you don't mean that many of my words were "unnecessary". Just about any one of my friends, family, or acquaintances would find my choice in words completely unremarkable. To impress someone with the words in my previous comment... well, I'd either have to look at the far end of the bell curve, or at children who aren't far along in their education.

If it's a typed essay, there's really no excuse for spelling errors.

Sometimes a word can be misspelled for the context but still be a word, and spellcheck won't catch that.

Google "Eye halve a spelling chequer", it illustrates why not to just trust your spellcheck.

#20 Haha, technically there are no spelling errors. My main issue with writing papers is the shitty grammar check suggestions. I find you can become a bit context blind to your own mistakes the more you write. I always read my papers backwards, it helps you catch your mistakes with fresh perspective. Plus, spell check just makes your spelling worse in my opinion, too much of a crutch sometimes.

chrisbeaudoin 26

To #20, some websites/spellcheckers underline bad grammar in blue and mistakes in red. Obviously not all mistakes but what you typed could be underlined blue as it does not make sense grammatically.

I hope to God the people who are saying it's a valid question are under the age of twelve. They should get marked down! I remember being in school, and no matter what class I had points were deducted for misspelling.

eh. I could understand if it were a science paper and the person asking was not a native speaker. (even so, spell check)

My English teacher doesn't really take marks off for spelling but it depends on what the essay is. If it is more about the ideas and how we understood something, she isn't looking for perfect spelling. It is the same for our exams at the end of the year. Because they know we are rushing and they only want to know if we understand it they don't care as long as you use paragraphs and it is clear enough to read.

#28 Your comment just makes me wonder what grade you're in. I remember focusing on paragraphs, types of essays (persuasive, expository etc.), and spelling in 4th and 5th grade as we had to hand write essays for assessment testing, though testing varies by state. Then doing some acrostic poems and hiakus. Middle school should focus on properly understanding and developing topics, book reports, poetry and creative writing; all added onto structure and grammar mixed with some Shakespearean iambic pentameter. You would read political books like Animal Farm, Lord of the Flies, and Fahrenheit 451 . Then highschool should be about proper formatting of MLA style research essays and analysis papers; as well as properly citing and referencing to avoid plagiarism. With some thought provoking works like Canterbury Tales and dystopian themed Harrison Bergeron type stuff. Let me stop reliving grade school though, I need to sleep.

I just graduated high school and it's a valid question mostly in Florida

To be fair, essays tend to focus on different techniques like text response, persuasion or analysis, so spelling isn't usually a key factor. Unless you gave them some sort of criteria sheet, it's a completely valid question

I think its a valid question, to just inquire. OP should offer help to the student, if they're having difficulty..

why did this comment get so many dislikes? people on this app are jerks

Well, do you deduct points for bad spelling?

Never had a teacher that didn't take of points for spelling it's basic for an essay, as well as sentence structure and grammar. It's considered pretty basic, regardless of the topic of the essay that you have to spell correctly.

I've had teachers that don't care as long as it's not distractingly bad.

I would deduct points for bad spelling. Life and employers won't cut them slack for incorrect spelling. So they better learn now while still in school. When I was in engineering school my professors were grammar nazis on top of being anal about the engineering side of things.

Yes, professors are brutal af. Better to get red marks in grade school than in University.

being perfect is part and parcel of being an engineer if you're not bent that way then don't be an engineer not saying you have to be perfect just saying that should be your goal bridges falling down and shit when my son graduated from engineering school they gave him this steel ring supposedly made from the debris from some bridge that collapsed supposed to be a kind of reminder if you don't do it right people die

I agree with the student. I can spell usually fine but every know and them i mess up and my teachers would not count off points for it.

irony at its finest!

#16 idk I think they did well for a goldfish..

Okay cool. So you can spell the word "usually" fine. It seems like the rest of your words still need a bit of work.

I still ask my teachers that