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I bet he's the guy who recites Bible verses out loud every time he wanks.
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So if God made Adam that would make him his son. God created Eve from Adams rib. So that would make Eve God and Adams daughter. So eve and Adam populate the world. Results: God and Adam had a gay incest relationship to create eve and then eve keeps the incest going by banging her dad Adam. Enjoy your bible folks, this is all logic based on what I read.
I have no problems with religion or atheism, I have a problem with ignorance and hatred. You guys are just as disrespectful as any religious person out there, you're no better than them because you all do the same when it comes to what you believe and dont believe in. Just because one person was a jerk doesn't mean you have to be a jerk to those who were innocent... Just because you don't understand why they believe in something you don't, doesn't make them any less intelligent, logical etc. Believing in a God or any religion is a personal thing...remember that before you talk shit about something you can't or never experienced yourself. Like I said, I don't care what you believe in...just don't be a cunt about it.. Sorry for the rant...things like this just irks me.
pretty much what #58 said. I'm an atheist but I don't go around pissing on other people's religions. Most of the Christians, Muslims, Jews and people of various other religions I talk to respect my beliefs, so I in turn respect theirs. No need for you guys to act so immature and disrespectful. You're coming off as fedora-wearing pseudo-intellectuals.
You're right it is most Christians in this day and age but it is not all Christians. I can't stand being associated with the self righteous, believe what I believe or you're going to hell, shove Christianity down your throat Christians because that's not what Christianity says we should do. It gives all Christians a bad name and is turning more people away from Christianity rather then bringing them to it.
#112 Actually our common male ancestor and our common female ancestor were born about 200,000 years apart, according to DNA studies. I agree the creation story involves no gay incest (though obviously it would have to involve incest with Adam and Eve's children's generation), but in the end it's still just a story.
It isn't only people in the media who are paid to be that way though. I've actually met quite a few people who think the same way and if you don't believe what they do then they try to force you to believe. It's also really sad to think that Christians would give all Christians a terrible name just for a few bucks.
#3 and the others, I'd just like to commend you for your courage in showing your view on my religion and how you think it is trash. Also, I'd like to congratulate you, #3, for being one of the many people who take the time to start an argument, with no provocation, about my religion. The Bible tells me not to judge others until I feel that I myself am no longer a sinner. I am no saint, nor do I speak for the others under the large umbrella that is Christianity. I will, however, ask you not to sit there and whine like a toddler about how others put you down while you're doing the same thing to me. We are, supposedly, a "highly evolved race" that is "very intelligent" but you still can't seem to go on without picking a fight just for the sake of forcing your opinions on someone else. If you don't like people being intolerant to you, maybe you could try not speaking in a derogatory manner to them in the first place. Hostility is met with hostility until eventually that is all there is left. I, frankly, don't care what you think until you start insulting me for no reason other than your blatant and outspoken ignorance.
So if you all say religion is real, how did noah fit the millions and millions of species of animals on this planet into his ark? You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realise that that is impossible. Also why do innocent childeren have to suffer from terminal diseases such as cancer? What part of god's plan is this exactly? This is a result of natural selection and part of the human condition. "god is not killing these kids they're dying because of natrual prosseses. And if jesus died on the cross and spend 6 days in hell to pay for the sins of the world. Then why do we have to go to hell ourselves and pay for them again? God is then, in essence being paid for our sins twice. With that said was Jesus' sacrifice not worthy enough? I'd like some answers to my "questions" or "attack message" as some of you see it.
Quite frankly, it is true that some passages in the bible are improbable. That doesn't give a 14 year old girl the right to drag people's beliefs through the mud. My baby sister has brain cancer. She's blind and she cannot walk well by herself. She is a blessing to me. You question what you cannot prove, there's no problem with that. She has no proof that the sky exists, or the clouds that she cannot find shapes in. That doesn't mean they don't exist. And if you want improbability, please do tell me how the universe was, as the scientists say, sparked into existence from nothingness. Science says something cannot be made from nothing. Where did the energy come from? Where did the dark matter come from?
#135 It is called oscillating universe theory, you can look it up, its lengthy and requires some background knowledge on thermodynamics. That is combined with Robert Woodward's total organic synthesis tests in the 50s. Also, the reason your sister has no evidence of the sky is because she has a measurable defect (very sorry for her and the best of luck to her and your family).
All these weak minded fools. You think god exists? He's all powerful, creator of all? So what's the deal with the parasite that's sole purpose is to bury into the eyes of children to blind them? If god existed he would be a tyrant, not someone to worship. Think for yourself for once and stop blindly following the herd.
The fact, #136, is that you are trying to disregard my collected theories with ones you also gathered. Neither can, technically, be proven (as stated when "Theory" is in the title of your counterproposal). Also, having a "defect" is irrelevant in the argument of proving the existence of something. You can prove it or you can't. I do, however, appreciate the civility you took in presenting your side. Please realize that my original argument was not of the legitimacy of either view and I respect both sides of the debate, as we all know that nothing said here will change anyone's mind. My conflict arises when people on either side begin unnecessarily trying to tear the other to pieces for no reason other than thinking that their ideas are superior. It's when people begin behaving like racists that I bother getting involved. I don't agree with the "aggressively praying" man in the post and no one is perfect, but we can at least try to be civil to one another like the superior species that we are believed to be in both sides of the argument.
135, based on your logic god doesnt exist either. You say it's science that something can't all of a sudden come from nothing. If that's true, then where did god come from? The church teaching is that god just always was in existence, which to me, is an obvious logical fallacy. Also, genesis is mostly a figurative book so, adam, eve, and their incest never really existed. Lol
Why are we all arguing? Nobody's mind is going to change. There is no point in fighting about it. Stupidity and ignorance knows no race, color, religion, or gender. Everyone can be ignorant. It's whether or not we choose to be that counts. It doesn't matter what religion someone is because that's their right to believe it. I, personally, am a Christian. A Baptist specifically. The Bible says to treat everyone with respect. Therefore, I respect all of you, atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hinduists (not sure what the proper term for Hindu people is), even Satanists. I respect all of you. I just ask that you repay the favor. Not just with me, but everyone. There's no need to make an ass of yourself because someone doesn't have the same views you do. Bashing their religion isn't going to do anything but piss them off. Is that so hard to understand? We all need to grow up and learn how to live with each other, not against each other. Thank you. I will now step off my soap box and continue reading FMLs. Have a good day all.
Actually, #145, I never said that I personally believed those things and whether or not I do is of no consequence. I simply ask for an alternate explanation that explained those occurrences. Again, if you have an you believe argument that encompasses them then I would gladly listen. Also, I do not aspire to learn the origins of God. I never have and I don't need to. I'm content in my belief that He is there and that is all that matters to me. Feel free to believe differently, but please do not falsely accredit words or ideas to me that did not originate from me.
I like how all the people think you believe in science if you don't believe in any god... I personaly believe that things are the way they are and happend because it happend. I don't care about religion, but the thing that makes me pissed is those popes and priest and all those people who live with a bunch of money and in big houses. I'm sorry I was a bit rude erlier but that was mainly because I have a bad background with the curch...
Has anyone thought that maybe...just maybe, we aren't capable of understanding?That perhaps searching for our existence and purpose would be the counter opposite of finding existence and purpose? Think about it, we were created. That is evident, whether it is a god that made us in the image of himself or the unknown mysteries beyond our universe, we just might never know. Now no matter what religion you follow, there is a reason science is growing and causing conflict. Look at the bigger picture, religion solved the answers for people back in its prime in many different cultures and also progressed society. We have now, in a way, found and advanced religion. It is science, the religion where you keep believing that we may find the answers one day, but even if we don't, society will still progress. I can better explain everything I just said, but I'd rather not write an essay.
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I find it funny how people can sit and quote God as soon as they see something out of the ordinary and yet if they do something against the bible they are quick to dismiss.