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FML - The follow-up

Today, I found out my boyfriend and I have more in common than I thought. We both are sexually attracted to men. FML

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I know the thread's finished, but the person that started it and a few others should be ashamed of themselves. There's NOTHING wrong or unnatural about non heterosexuals, so take your bigotry some place else! I'm upset because my boyfriend doesn't feel anything for me romantically. That's it. FML team said it all.
By caitlinz5 - / Wednesday 18 April 2012 16:55 / United States - Williston Park
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  Meettitan  |  14

#30, so what you're telling us is that the fresh-out-of-the-closet boyfriend is going to have a threesome with 2 women? Am I miss informed about sexual orientation, or are we assuming he's bi-sexual?

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  Lauren324  |  18

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  PrimeEvilTahir  |  23

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  PrimeEvilTahir  |  23

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  Lauren324  |  18

59- he basically is saying don't accept he is gay, just keep dating him and work things out! A lot of religious people don't accept gay people for who they are.

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  NYC_Yoshi  |  3

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  Lauren324  |  18

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  Lauren324  |  18

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  TheMathMajor  |  26

Yeah, sexuality depends on genetics as well as the chemical environment in the womb and epigenetics after birth (epigenetics is your bodies proteins and enzymes that turn genes on and off). "Nurture" or the way someone is raised has nothing to do with it, though it may make someone more or less accepting of the LGBTQ community.

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  jeragonm  |  15

I don't be leave that at all. It's just like all babies are born girls with blue eyes until the dominance male gene takes over. Except in this case there are no genes, just a choice.

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  NYC_Yoshi  |  3

Xq28 is old and further studies weren't agreeable. 74-no significant proof either way... I'm agreeing with u. It annoys me when people try to state such epic matters as fact lol. And "nurture" does not just mean how you are raised by your parents (though they have the most influence). It simply means how the outside stimulation influences how one grows. Few people, if any, turn out exactly how their parents would have wanted.

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  TheMathMajor  |  26

If you are including epigenetics in your description of nurture, than yes it has an effect, but it's still a really broad and misleading word to use. And it as been shown that if you have a set of identical twins and one is gay, then there is about a 70% chance of the other twin being gay also. This is much higher than the chance of a single child being born gay. So that study alone shows that it is highly dependent on genetics. There are a lot of others that show the same thing.

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  Lauren324  |  18

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  Lauren324  |  18

99- thank you! Another study showed an examination of twins by psychologist Michael Bailey of Northwestern University. Basically they took identical twins, and found that if one was gay, the other had a 50 percent chance of also being gay. Among fraternal twins, who do not share the same DNA, there was only a 20 percent chance.

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  esines  |  9

Oh also the more older brothers you have, the higher chance you have of being gay due to genetics. Not a real significant increase in out odds, but still an increase

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  jasmine1259  |  2

100- Stop stereotyping. It's not just religious people that are homophobic. I'm a Christian in support of gay rights and believe that someone can't just turn gay.

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  Paris25_fml  |  11

If you can show me ANY factual information, that cannot be disproved and can be proved, that babies are born gay then I will agree. To date there have been many studies about this topic and all are inconclusive or highly debatable. There is no scientific proof or disproof. Your belief in a theory based science is exactly the same as my belief in God. I'm not trying to impose my faith on anyone nor am I trying to start a faith war.

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  Lauren324  |  18

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  Lauren324  |  18

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  Paris25_fml  |  11

Maybe there is a correlation… Faithful equals blessed? I'm just kidding though, that would not match up with our idea of being humble. I will not argue that many rich people are religious but that isn't always true the other way around, especially when considering the south being stereotyped as poor and uneducated yet very religious.

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  TheMathMajor  |  26

111 - do you think biologists "believe" in evolution just like your god too? You can't prove anything in science like you can in math, that's why people don't use the word proof in science. No it hasn't been disproven, which is a tremendous feat for something like this. Because you can't prove things by experimentation, it is the goal of all good scientists to disprove things. So you have something being studied with the goal of disproving it, and it hasn't been disproved, and it in fact has a lot of scientific support, then it is most probably a really good explanation, unlike your god, which doesn't have that much scientific support and can't be disproven. I'm not hating on any religion, just saying those things are not comparable and it is beyond me why people try to compare them. If you thought scientifically, you would have more than enough "proof"

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  Paris25_fml  |  11

So basically you are saying science is constantly trying to disprove theories and until then it is considered true or, at least, possibly true? By that thinking, wouldn't my God also be true then, scientifically speaking, since he cannot be disproven? People blindly believe in what scientists claim they have discovered and Christians blindly believe in a God that we claim is true. It is the same, the only difference is where you place your faith. Again, I'd like to state that I am NOT trying to shove my beliefs down anyone's throat.

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  Lauren324  |  18

124- which is sad but true. I think it would really change mine and a lot of people's negative thoughts towards Christians if they were to be more open, like the united church for say. I live in one of the most accepting areas, and to have such a upset emotion towards Christians is purely not wanting to be in my mind. * Paris isn't helping.

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  TheMathMajor  |  26

No, in addition to not being disproven, you also have to have a lot of support and evidence for your claim and what you are claiming has to be disprovable. And people don't (or shouldn't) blindly believe it, it is important to always be skeptical of existing hypothesizes and theories, especially if you are yourself a scientist, because otherwise we wouldn't be able to move forward with better explanations. Having said that, things that have been tested a lot and have a lot of support are very likely to be true, I never said it was true. And that's the best you can get with science, but it still isn't comparable to religion.

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  Paris25_fml  |  11

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  Sirin_fml  |  46

Some people obviously are not reading the KJV "Holy Shit, Who Cares?" Why debate this? It's an entertainment website. Why insecure people feel the need to make the OP's situation all about themselves and their own ridiculous beliefs is beyond me.

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  TheMathMajor  |  26

132, there are also christians who accept homosexuality as something that isn't sinful and would disagree with you saying that it isn't how people are meant to be. I wouldn't say you are speaking for all "true christians" simply because people who disagree with you might also consider themselves "true christians."

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  Paris25_fml  |  11

Being more open isn't really possible when we have a Book clearly telling us what we should and shouldn't do. I'm sorry if what I am saying isn't really helping but hopefully I'm not hurting. Real Christians are supposed to follow a very narrow path and we expect to be disliked but some try to appease people which create bad images for the rest of us. We are kind people who are supposed to give up everything for essentially the common good of humanity. I don't want you to see us and think badly of us, that's not my aim. I merely want to support my faith as you also do. Unfortunately, though, the majority of people don't want to risk living a Christians life and to have been wrong which I understand. It's not easy, in fact it is supposed to be nearly impossible but all God asks is to believe in him wholly and attempt to follow in His Son's footsteps. I understand where you are coming from.

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  Paris25_fml  |  11

As will I, Sirin. I'm sorry for debating. Although it was a rude way of saying it, I don't disgrace your beliefs and I only ask the same. Again, I'm sorry and will save my religious debates for a more appropriate forum. FML is a great place and I'd hate to ruin it for anyone.

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  Sirin_fml  |  46

Yep. We just get a little tired of minorities being used as punching boards on our website. It's 2012, for goodness' sake; nobody wants to come to an entertainment site and read such childish drivel.

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  tmmundy  |  17

Wow, talk about being crude. I live in the south, have traveled to the north, but I would never talk about how people are in the north, hmmmm, maybe there is a reason I live in the south.

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  dethbunny  |  0

Ok 132, let me ask you this. There are millions of people on this planet, the number still growing. Is it not possible that "god" could have made gay's as a way to keep the population under control? Also, are you saying you look down apon disabilities? being gay, as some commenter's have said, is not very much a choice (though small choices could be made to cause homosexuality).

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  caitlinz5  |  2

I know the thread's finished, but the person that started it and a few others should be ashamed of themselves. There's NOTHING wrong or unnatural about non heterosexuals, so take your bigotry some place else! I'm upset because my boyfriend doesn't feel anything for me romantically. That's it. FML team said it all.

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  stormer461  |  13

76 - I just wanted to point out that males can pass on x-chromosomes too. The mother gives one X and then the male gives either an x or a y. I feel you might have that confused with saying only the male can give a y chromosome. Not trying to flame just trying to be helpful.

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  skoob1  |  12

Not to be close minded, but I highly doubt that sexual preference has anything to do with genetics. My aunt is a lesbian, first in the family. If genetics played a role, it was either a widespread mutation that just happened to occur to millions of people during the last 15 years, where people are 'socially accepted', or my family had been a gay hybrid (hehe) for some untraceable amount of time. Or, of course, you are WRONG.

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  hewro_failure  |  11

To 76 ... Thank you for pointing out there actually is a gay gene even though we have figured it out because it isn't one hundred percent proven to be true religious people will not believe it to be true even though there is very little evidence to support their religion other than a book that says so... But there is never any reasoning with them

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  RadikulRam  |  16

"Are you insane?!? People are born gay, they don't just "turn" gay." Yeah unless they suffer trauma to their brain. Some people who have strokes suffer serious changes to the neural connections, and so a lot of stroke victims have dramatic changes in their personality. (if your blood isn't supplying enough oxygen to your brain for prolonged amounts of time then those cells die and new connections are formed between cells in your brain)

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  kateRAWR  |  3

105--but some religious groups wont accept there child being gay , and disown them or some will just accept it ( depending on how open minded u are and how strongly u believe or disapprove.)

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  dethbunny  |  0

132, there are millions of people on this earth. Isn't it possible that god made homosexuality to keep the population under control? Also there is around 49 species that contain homosexuality, but only one species contains homophobia. Now, what part of that is weird?

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  isallwaysme  |  27

100, my girlfriend is religious, but is completely for homosexuality. she's not against it, she actually left her church because they said it was wrong. don't be such a stereotypical bitch.

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  Lauren324  |  18

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  ImaginaryFoe  |  0

Why the hell wouldn't it be? I'd be unhappy with my boyfriend seeing someone else regardless of gender. Now if the OP is just saying he told her that he's also attracted to men, that wouldn't be a problem unless he acts on it.

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  fukthisss  |  5

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  gurly98  |  13

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  Bekll  |  26

That's what I was thinking. Why should OP care who/what gender her husband is attracted to? If he's still with her (i.e., is bi/pansexual, not gay) then she shouldn't take it personally.

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