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By  JackFaire  |  23

Telling kids in detail how sex works is true too doesn't mean a parent wants their kid knowing that before they have the maturity to handle it process it and make an informed decision. I'm not saying cut off the sister but the parent would be justified in doing so.

When you have kids your loyalty should be to them not to your siblings. From the sounds of it the sister did everything she could to traumatize the kids. Not to educate but to ensure that the kids agree with her point of view. If it had been a grandparent telling the kids about hell to scare them into going to church I'd cut them off too. Parents raise their kids when it comes to personal beliefs that don't affect others it's the parents call not the other relatives.

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  JackFaire  |  23

Telling kids in detail how sex works is true too doesn't mean a parent wants their kid knowing that before they have the maturity to handle it process it and make an informed decision. I'm not saying cut off the sister but the parent would be justified in doing so.

When you have kids your loyalty should be to them not to your siblings. From the sounds of it the sister did everything she could to traumatize the kids. Not to educate but to ensure that the kids agree with her point of view. If it had been a grandparent telling the kids about hell to scare them into going to church I'd cut them off too. Parents raise their kids when it comes to personal beliefs that don't affect others it's the parents call not the other relatives.

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But you can't raise your kids in a vacuum.
What if a kid at school tells them how babies are made?

I remember once, at a barbecue where the meat eaters were roasting a whole goat, a little girl asked me what the meat on her plate was. I explained that it was goat. She then refused to eat it. What was I supposed to have said?
(She's a total vegan now she's reached adulthood btw)

By  Mungolikecandy  |  18

To be fair, children should be aware of what they are eating come from. Then again, vegan clothing often uses man-made fibres and mass farming techniques which produce vegetables and pulses etc. are damaging to the environment also so she should probably be made to inform them of that also.

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  JackFaire  |  23

From the sounds of it though the sister didn't tell them "your steak came from cows" the sister went "let me scar you for life so that you associate the eating of meat with fear and pain "

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You need to do some serious research before you start sputtering nonsense like that. Just a small tidbit for you to start with, only 6% of soy grown goes to human consumption while the majority over 80% goes to animal feed.

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Except it doesn't take much to traumatise a child over meat. I remember very clearly the trauma I went through when I discovered that they are slaughtered. No graphic videos or anything, just my Dad sheepishly admitting that yes, the roast lamb was a baby sheep that was killed so we could eat it. He then bumbled on about sacrificial lambs in the Bible but I had laid my knife and fork down already.

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  Mungolikecandy  |  18

Most vegans wear nylon and other man-made fibres as cotton and hemp are practical in certain situations but not others. Also in terms of footwear, very few vegans wear clogs but wear cotton shoes in the summer and man-made material footwear in the winter or risk losing toes in the snow. I admire non-militant vegans for their morality and actions but it is wrong to state it is fully a more environmental approach to living. The soy aspect is true but also there are negatives (such as whilst forests are destroyed for animal production similarly it is destroyed for crop production) and whilst you should not ignore the horrors of eating meat in terms of animal production (especially in places like the U.S. who have terrible laws on meat production compared to such places as the EU which is why there is chlorine washed chicken etc and drug filled beef to enable poorly managed animals to be used as meat) but veganism itself is not a perfect solution.

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Most meat-eaters eat man-made fibres too, not just vegans.

If humans reduced their meat consumption drastically, animals would no longer be artifically inseminated and raised for consumption, thus eliminating the need to grow the crops used to feed them. You can feed a human being with far less than what beef cattle consume, so there would no longer be any need for deforestation.

By  jbuckets_404  |  38

Now you can tell your sister to teach your now-living-with-her kids how to prepare vegan meals themselves. Problem solved!
Or they can live off of raw carrots and other (canned) vegetables cooked in the microwave else boxes of ("mother-approved") Kix cereal.

I imagine that's safer & easier to do than frying/ baking/ grilling meat-based meals, but not knowing of any vegan dishes, I might be wrong (aside from automatically being so anyway just for being a male in and of itself).

Also, tell your kids that if they listen very, very carefully, they can then hear the plants scream when they are harvested/ plucked....

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Except that you can't hear plants screaming.
Meat-eaters telling vegans that you can hear plants screaming: do you not see the irony? I just tell them that once they have stopped eating meat fish dairy and plants, I promise to follow suit.

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  jbuckets_404  |  38

Just because you can't hear said screaming doesn't mean that they don't: the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
No, it's not irony, but sarcasm and messing with kids' minds.

Vegans are hypocrites because they weren't as such from day #1.
[Edit] Meaning since the day of their birth;
So does that also mean that they're ashamed of their parents and all ancestors who weren't vegans? And had the latter been so, they might've died before having kids (depending on circumstances), so today's vegans wouldn't even ever exist.... [/Edit]

What gives them the right to declare that plants - also living things like animals - are not worthy of the same respect & treatment as said food-providing animals? Are fish too unworthy?

(In the Bible, God - thru Moses - told the Israelites only to avoid eating pigs and things that crawled on the ground.)

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You're not a hypocrite just because you stop eating what you were fed from birth. What's hypocritical is eating meat when you're not capable of slaughtering an animal yourself.
Some vegans were born to vegan parents, so they can safely say that they have been vegan from birth.

And I don't give a toss for what it says in the Bible. I prefer to think for myself.

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Or maybe start thinking for yourself about sustainable, healthy eating and provide your kids with a diet they feel comfortable about?
You can't raise kids in a vacuum, they are gonna be exposed to other points of view. Your children are not carbon copies of you, they are entitled to listen to other people and make up their own minds.
(my mother refused to let me be vegetarian until I was 18 and I hate her for it)

By  Yudith  |  20

After six months of badly prepared tofu and beans, they will take interest in meat again. Or they will learn to cook their own food. Either case, you win!

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  Mungolikecandy  |  18

Personally, having lived with a flextarian diet, I often find vegetarian food is more tasty than the meat based food.

By  Charlie Given  |  21

Your sister sounds like a entitled ass hat and wouldn't be welcomed in the house anymore cause that's some bullshit, ya don't traumatize kids to get your point of view across what a cunt.

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  Mungolikecandy  |  18

There are vegans and there are militant vegans. Your comment reflects the comments of militant vegans claiming all who eat meat are murderers.