By Jessica - 21/08/2012 08:21 - United States
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For the most part, the education system in this country is nothing less than a huge joke. Especially at the high school level. Nothing more than babysitters training kids to pass SOL's, and letting them sleep or watch movies the rest of time. Sadly the kids are the ones who are losing out.
People need to stop complaining about the education system. Yes, it could do better, but it's not babysitters letting us watch movies. The high school I went to prepared me for college, and guess what else? I learned enough that I was accepted into my university's honors program my freshman year. And yes, it was a public school. There are good and there are bad schools, teachers, and students.
And technically, many European and maybe Asian (I'm not sure about Asian countries, I could be wrong) countries only let their smartest students into high school where America forces every child to go to school, they can only drop out after a certain age if they wish. So yes, our school system has students that bring down our rating where those countries have only bright students. That doesn't necessarily mean the education is bad. Now the budget going to education is lacking. That's what people should be focusing on.
Man, where did you get this information from?? It is ridiculous and false. I am French and I can tell you that there is no such selection in most European countries. Most of them make school mandatory till you’re 16 and that’s it. As long as you don’t fail miserably, you are entitled to pursue your education as far as you can go. This means that even very average students are going to high school, not only the straight A ones… The content of courses is imposed and we only have a few topics that we get to choose, for instance foreign languages. But up to 2 years before graduation we all study the same things in math, History/Geography, French, sciences etc. Then we will specialize in a field we chose, for instance, people who want to study sciences and maths will get courses with a higher focus on these subjects but will still get classes such as French, History/Geography, philosophy etc… albeit with a lesser degree than if you decide to specialize in Literature. I’d say that the issue in the US is the lack of interest for foreign countries or foreign cultures that lots of people have. I did my master in the US and I was amazed at how little some college students knew about the rest of the world. A med student actually asked me if England was an island and another guy if Napoleon Bonaparte was the President in France! Lots of people I met thought also that France was still a monarchy. I was appalled at first but it ended up just amusing me.
Actually 108, I had my history teacher tell our class that; and she was from Germany and still had many family members in different European countries. I also met another person from France and he also said in some countries it was like that. Stop generalising people. If you met idiotic people in your experience here thats not my fault. I have also been to different countries; I have family members in France, Peru, Belgium, and Morocco. So no; I'm not completely America-centric. I am the first generation in my family living here.
I apologise if I was wrong, but thats the information I was given from actual Europeans. Maybe they meant that it used to be like that, but my GERMAN teacher genuinely stated that you went to school and took a test in 8th grade. If you did well on that test, you were able to continue academics, but if not, then you needed to study a vocational profession instead of purely academics. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but I'm not pulling information out of my butt. This is what I've been from, I repeat, actual EUROPEANS. And no, I can't name them because I never said I knew I them; I'm just regurgitating information my european professors told me.
Sorry, if I had misinformation. But honestly, you need a better way of correcting something. And even if I had one fact wrong, you have no right to say that every American, me included, are completely disinterested in foreign countries. You don't know what study, now do you? Do you know that I greatly HATE American history but LOVE the rich history of England, Spain, and France? Did you know that I am, if i have enough money by then, studying at France in the summer? Do you know how my sister is going to Italy as an architect student this summer as well? Did you know my brother just came home from England after studying the semester there? No? Then stop complaining that all Americans have no interest in foreign countries. Sorry about my rant, but ignorance in foreign countries go both ways.
So your post says lots not every... Still; you are generalising a country based what is stereotyped. I have never met a person who didn't, or wished to, travel to different countries, especially Europe. My entire university is based off international relations and is OBSESSED with teaching students that America isn't the only country; that's why we have many international students; they are CHERISHED there. I'm sorry if my reaction seemed over the top, but I'm tired of people from other countries thinking that Americans are just fat, lazy, and ignorant people. If you don't want people generalising France and saying every French person is a coward, I expect that you shouldn't say the majority of Americans don't care about learning about different countries.
I think it is indeed not that easy to understand. Systems are also quite different in different european countries, in germany they even vary slightly between states. I also have some problems to understand the american system, you probably have to see it to really know what´s going on ^^
Well your teacher told you a big lie. I also studied in Germany (I specialized in foreign languages) and it’s complete BS. I have German friends and work with Germans too and I can tell you that there is no such selection. I met a girl in the US who said her teacher told them that in France we were sharing dorm rooms with 6 people! 6 people in one room? What are our universities, a prison? LoL (Our rooms are all single btw, unless it’s dorm apartments.) Don’t believe everything your teachers say, especially if they cannot back up their info with sources. By the way, I never implied to say that all Americans are idiots. Most of my fellow college students were very cultured and smart. Neither did I imply than all French are geniuses. I just said that along my travels in the past 10 years, I never met such ignorance on basic world knowledge as I did in the US. And my opinion is only based on MY experience. Sorry if I offended anyone, that was not my intention.
You better teach you daughter some history. And to be honest you will probably need to teach her whole lot of other subjects also
Thanks for the correction. But i think it also includes various other grammatical errors such as missing commas, will would error and what not. Please correct them too if you are literate enough or does your education limits you to only point out the trivial mistakes which a nutless monkey can do eating bananas.
I wouldn't be too worried. As terrible as it is, some schools don't educate students fully about what happened. Especially those based in Germany itself. Some schools just focus on the fact that Hitler killed so many but don't focus on the geography of the war. Obviously I'm not just blaming the schools but hopefully she will change her mind when the truth is told instead of believing what she's heard. :)