Today, a client says his new website design isn't what he expected at all and wants a full refund or else he will sue me in court. The design is exactly what he picked out when I presented the mock-ups. FML
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Thanksgiving
Questions about your love life, a burnt turkey and the cousin who knows everything: Thanksgiving, a contact sport.
Same thing different taste
The client is always a pain in the tush.
Today, a client wanted me to change the design I'd given him, again. I've been working with this client for a week now, giving him many designs throughout the week, and he rejected all of them. After all of the changes he wanted, he said that I should just use the first design I sent to him. FML
Today, I spent a ridiculous amount of time working and reworking a design for a client. Eight hours and many tears later, she sends an email saying, "Let's go with the first design. I liked that one the most." FML
Nepo baby
Today, after I took up a job to design a website for a company, I had everything done… but they went with someone else. Their boss's nephew made a site that looks like it was pulled from late '90s GeoCities site, and is full of spelling errors and broken links. They paid him $5000 for this. FML
Freudian design
Today, I hired a graphic artist to design a logo for my shop. I think the guy might be obsessed with sex, since his first design looked like a vagina up a tree, and when I asked him to redo it, the result looked like a pair of boobs. Either he’s in denial or he’s actively mocking me. FML
Get on with it
Today, my superior, who went to meet with client yesterday, told me I needed to prepare a detailed list of changes to enhance the design of a marketing video, and refused to tell me the client's feedback they received, then told me I should figure it out myself. It's the weekend, and they want it by Monday morning. FML
Today, the extremely uncooperative client whom I'm trying to defend in court sent me a letter in which he threatened to sue me, because charging him for my services supposedly violates his "constipational rights". FML
Kinda sus
Today, after days of working with a client on plans for a project, I received a message halfway through completion, saying the deal was off because my prices were "so low, it seems like a scam." FML
Today, my lawyer threatened to sue me because I can't afford his bill, which he sent to me after getting me out of a lawsuit. FML
Faux pas
Today, as a graphic designer, I sent a “final” logo to a client after days of revisions. They replied that they loved it. Five minutes later I saw I'd left a hidden layer visible with a joke note that said “this version is the least ugly one.” I had to send a follow-up email claiming it was “an internal label that accidentally exported.” FML
Today, I had to explain to a potential client that I wouldn't represent him, because suing his neighbor for calling him a pansy would get us laughed out of court and likely get me disbarred. His response was to get violent and threaten to sue me for violating his civil rights. FML
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friedpwnadge 25
He's just trying to get something for nothing. Tell him you will comply, with of course the elimination of all the work you did on the site and he'll back down faster than you can say"scam artist".
dubby21 19
Sue his ass right back for being a moron and wasting your time!
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Xtrafresh 7
Go on YouTube, and look for a fantastic talk named "**** you, pay me". All that needs to be said is said there, and then some :)
OzzyTheGiant 14
that was the best motivational speaking for web creators I have seen in a long time
CGPainting 0
A) The first thing you should do is explain that after all of this work being done, and after he has had the opportunity to both see the new website and possibly photograph it to have someone else do it for cheaper, that no refunds will be given. Explain youve done substantial work, exact to his specs. HOWEVER, TELL HIM IN TEXT OR EMAIL WRITING (THE FORM HE BEST WANTS TO COMMUNICATE WITH) THAT YOU WILL EDIT THE WEBSITE AGAIN, FOR FREE, TO HIS LIKING, HOWEVER HE WANTS... But that no refunds will be given. Explain legally, you are not obligated to give a refund. B) Just a heads up- In the future, you either shouldn't offer 100% satisfaction guarantee- or if you do, you should have a clause in your contracts that say "we offer 100% satisfaction guarantee of websites, meaning that if customer is not satisfied with website layout or design, we will fix it until customer is satisfied, in one set of changes, not to exceed 72 hours of demands for change. HOWEVER, no refunds will be given after work has commenced, because that would cause me/our company to be taken advantage of. By signing, customer agrees to these terms." B) If he refuses to allow you to fix things, and refuses to say exactly "what he wants changed" and he just keeps yelling that he wants all his money back.. Then you should politely text/email him "You can sue me if you would like. You are allowed to pursue whatever avenue you wish. However, I have done nothing wrong. You agreed to the mock-website design and I provided the website exactly as you wanted. Then, I offered to edit the website further, for free to your satisfaction, and you are refusing to allow me to help you make this website how you "claim" to want. Instead, you are only wanting all your money back. What is really occurring is you are probably wanting to scam me and get money for free. Feel free to take it to small claims, but I will bring all the documentation and you will, as far as I can tell, not win anything. But if you'd like to waste hours of your time and the courts time, then go ahead." C) IMPORTANT NOTE: I DO NOT RECOMMEND DOING WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE SUGGESTED, WHICH IS "CALLING HIS BLUFF AND OFFERING A REFUND, BUT ALSO OFFERING TO DELETE THE WEBSITE"- AND HERE IS WHY: He has already probably found somebody cheaper who is willing to rebuild the website to exactly how you made it. He probably took pictures of all your hard work, and is gonna pay somebody significantly less to quickly rebuild what you made. That is how scammers like him work. He's a shiester. DO NOT OFFER TO REIMBURSE HIM- BECAUSE IF YOU CALL HIS BLUFF AND OFFER TO REIMBURSE/DELETE THE SITE, AND HE SAYS "OK FINE" AND THEN YOU GO BACK ON YOUR OFFER... THEN LEGALLY, YOU ARE SCREWED! Because at that point, you will have offered to reimburse, and then violated your agreement you gave him. In writing, or even over phone, that would be viewed as a written or oral contract. In small claims court, he will need to prove that there was a material breach of contract, or will need to prove damages, or will need to prove he did not get what he was offered. None of this scenarios apply here. The plaintiff is the complaining party in a complaint, and has the burden to prove the claims in the complaint; the defendent is the complaining party in a counterclaim and has the burden to prove the claims in the counterclaim. The burden of proof in small claims court is a preponderance of the evidence. 1) If he sues you, the most he will be able to get is his money back anyway; no more, no less. Unless there was like serious extenuating circumstances (which there arent) So for this reason alone, you shouldn't offer to reimburse him at all. 2) If he sues you, just bring the proof that it's exactly what he wanted, and then you will win the case about 95% of the time. Of course, dress in a suit, respect the judge, speak clearly, be prepared and bring all necessary documents. I own a painting/remodeling company and I deal with shiesters like this guy all the time. In fact, I'm dealing with one of them today. So trust my advice. It's 100000x better than probably 99% of the people on FML on something like this. My advice is valuable, so take it
CGPainting 0
Oh- and again, to reiterate, once you sign a contract, he has an obligation to pay you the full amount, and you have an obligation to provide him with what you offered. By you offering to edit the site to his liking, in a TIMELY MANNER (offering to fix it today or tomorrow), then it completely removes any right of his to take you to small claims court or ask for a refund! I mean, legally he can TAKE YOU to small claims court, yeah, but he wont WIN though. You shouldn't be scared or worried or shaking. You are in the right. The important thing is to remain calm, be educated on the law. Knowledge drives out fear. The more you know, the less worried you have to be. Usually the people who are worried about threats like this, are people who don't have a good grasp on the ins and outs of the law. Also: If you tell him what I said in the post above, exactly as I described it- I can bet you 99% likely he does not take you to small claims court. In fact, the fact he is making threats to "take you to small claims" over this, shows he probably has very little knowledge of the legal system anyway. OR if he does know it, he already knows that he is BLUFFING. Either way, he either wont carry it out, or he will be a bumbling idiot in small claims and lose.
gnateye 7
being in the creative fields myself, i sure hope you git him to sign off everystep of the way? this will protect you from these kinds of things...
soulreaper12296 28
Tell him you'll give him the refund as soon as you finish taking down all the work you put on it first.