By This guy - 21/02/2016 02:53 - United States - Jackson

Today, my teacher gave me a 0% on my personal narrative in my writing class. His only comment on the whole paper was, "Too long, didn't read." FML
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That's horrible, try taking this to the principal. It worked when my Spanish teacher did the exact same thing to me.

Was there a word/page limit? If so, YDI. If not, FYL.


That's horrible, try taking this to the principal. It worked when my Spanish teacher did the exact same thing to me.

It depends on the situation. If it was a 2-3 page paper and the student wrote 15 pages, I would give them an F too. While talking to the principal is an option, I would first talk to the teacher. Nobody likes it when you go over their heads as your first course of action.

You'd fail somebody for exceeding expectations instead of just giving them partial credit and writing "please shorten to required page count"? I hope you're not a teacher.

Following directions counts for a lot. In a business class I'm taking through work, my boss said he'd literally throw out any submissions longer than five pages. Listening to authority is part of the grade.

#5, nobody likes it when their effort is dismissed with TL;DR.

If there is a peg requirement that wasn't met, a fail is deserved. It shows lack of discipline and not following directions. If OP didn't follow directions, no point in reading it.

Sounds to me like your teacher spends too much time on the Internet (possibly this site) to just pull a TL;DR. I'd try talking to your teacher about it, and if you don't agree with what he's saying or can't see eye to eye, than definitely go to the principle. If you went over the page limit then it's kind of your fault, but the teacher should still be reading it, and marking you on the other parts, such as grammar/spelling, topic, supporting arguments, etc. His job is to teach you, which would involve reading your work, pointing out (and marking) on the good parts, and explaining what you did wrong on the bad parts. He should've explained his issues instead of just TL;DR.

MikaykayUnicorn 36

I actually agree with #5. If the teacher assigned a set amount of words or pages and OP exceeded that, it's their fault for not listening.

That's what I was going to suggest. That's completely unfair and unprofessional.

Most of my professors in college who would not read anything over the set page limit. If the limit was five pages and you went on to the sixth, they would stop reading and grading at the end of the fifth page—even if it was three words onto the next page. While no one likes to be dismissed with a "til;dr", teachers often have a lot of papers to grade. I usually have about 180 students a semester. That's a lot of essays to grade, and students usually want immediate feedback, not to mention detailed and helpful feedback. If even 1/3 of my students exceed the page requirements, it adds considerably to my work load (remember that I still have lessons to plan, classes to teach, and a life to live). I'd also add that most of the time when students exceed the maximum page requirement, their papers are rambling messes. Content editing is an important skill to learn. Just because an essay/story is longer does not mean it's better. So no, a teacher shouldn't still read it and correct the grammar/spelling; the student should follow assignment guidelines. I realize this might not be the case with OP, and yes, I also realize this is a long comment.

mm12344 8

You're not exceeding expectations by being a show off. Following directions is important.

All of this is @12: Yes, I am a professor. I teach Statistics. Your comment about exceeding expectations is asinine with what I wrote. I used an example of a 15 page paper on a 2-3 page limit. If it was 3.5 or so, I would not automatically fail them. As someone else said, often long papers are rambling messes. Being concise is a great skill. That being said, his teacher was still a jerk for writing tl;dr. Lastly, I leave you with a fun quip. When I started my dissertation, my advisor quoted Mark Twain, "I didn't have time to write you a short letter, so I wrote you a long one instead."

your suggestion is a very short lived suggestion, because the teacher will be anal retentive with everything else after this.

Was there a word/page limit? If so, YDI. If not, FYL.

If there was a word/page limit, the teacher should have read that many words/pages and given OP their grade based on that.

I know some of my English teachers tell us that if we blatantly go over the limit it's a zero because we should be following directions.

If they weren't following directions for the page limit then that warrants the teacher's reaction. My professor said that if our 20 slide project is 40 slides long he's not even going to bother reading it. Follow directions.

Queen_of_Night 20

Teachers are all different. My English teachers would automatically fail a paper if the words "really", "very", or "a lot" were used anywhere other than a quote or source. On the other hand, I had a 2100 word short story assigned and I was already 2000+ words over, my TA said that I need at least 3 more pages. If he was informed of a word count limit and he would fail if he went too far over it, then that's his fault. If there was not word count/page count I would take it to the principal.

MikaykayUnicorn 36

That's not normally how it works, 21. I have had many teachers tell us if we exceed the limit they will just give us an F without reading it. It's OP'S fault if they exceeded a set limit.

Koalabiter 6

No, they shouldn't. Check your rubric and see what the requirements are. That's what you should be graded on.

Ouch, cannot stand lazy teachers. Take this to the principal and have it worked out. You should not have to pay because your teacher is lazy.

Koalabiter 6

Can't stand lazy students either. Speak with the teacher and get their explanation. Redo and meet requirements.

You don't even know the requirements dipshit. How do you even know if he's being lazy?

What if there were no clear boundaries on how many pages/words it was supposed to be? Even if there was I don't think doing more work than what was required means the student is lazy. Disregarding of the rules? Yeah. But I think you need to look up the definition of the word lazy. You clearly have no idea what it actually means.

And you decided that OP was lazy based on what? And it's your assumption that there were criteria OP did not meet.

Good luck on getting the grade that you deserve! :)

That's awful what a lazy teacher. Try and take it to someone like the principal so they can get you the mark you deserve

WTF!? report him! Sucks to think that teachers would be that lazy when it comes to their job

If I were a teacher I'd be thrilled to see a student writing more than I expected. Get lazy educators out of our system please

A long paper doesn't necessarily mean not lazy. My writing tends to be pretty top notch, and is almost always shorter than the requirements. An overly long paper can mean you didn't properly plan/think through what you wanted to say, and instead compensated by adding lots of fluff.

Being lazy has nothing to do with it. I am a teacher, and I've done it too. When you have 30 papers to grade, you have to expect students to follow directions and stick to the page limits. Not the teachers fault unless it was a small class and no page limit. Wet don't have that information. Just another student blaming the teacher.

Koalabiter 6

"If I were a teacher." But you're not. If someone made their McDonalds order too long and complex, you'd be writing your own FML right now.

KayleeFrye 39

You are not an educator, so don't call an educator lazy without more than this to back it up. I don't know what YOUR job is, but I would not tell you how to do it. If there are specific directions on how long a response should be, then students need to follow directions. When you have 35 papers to correct and a student tacks on 5 extra (most likely unnecessary) pages, they deserve to lose credit. If the teacher didn't give a limit, then they were definitely in the wrong, but that doesn't give YOU the right to tell someone how to do their job and/or call them names when you know next to nothing about their job.

He can't deny it a grade simply because he didn't read it.

If it didn't follow the assignment requirements/guidelines, then he certainly can. Teachers assign minimum and maximum page requirements for many reasons: 1. They know how long it should take for students to convey ideas/information 2. Page limits help students to condense ideas (after all, brevity *is* the soul of wit) 3. Teachers like to be able to give detailed, useful feedback to students. This is not possible if students turn in a novel and want feedback and a grade within a week.

KayleeFrye 39

He can if there was a word/page limit. We don't know enough about the situation, i wish the OP had included whether there was a limit or not. That would make a world of difference between hitting FYL or YDI.

My teacher used to say an essay should be like a woman's skirt. Long enough to cover the subject, short enough to keep it interesting. Work on that!

I'll be honest, that is actually one of the most creative comparisons that I've read. Haha.

Take it to the principal. It's his job to read the paper, and if you're in HS, a 0 can be the difference between college and no college.