By thenegatives - 09/10/2014 01:12 - United States - Mckeesport
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Some kids are really smart but just can't stand academics. Gifted programs could be one way to go but also look at trade courses. My cousin barely scraped by in school and switched to a carpentry course at sixteen. He owns his own handmade furniture business now and the designs he comes up with are amazing. He made me a 3d puzzle when I complained that all the ones in the shops were too easy, took me two weeks to figure it out.
I fully agree. They have plenty of programs for kids who really don't give a shit about school, and not enough for the kids who aren't challenged and who are bored. While what he did isn't okay, advanced courses and maybe a better school that will accommodate his needs are possibilities to consider (depending on financial situations).
What? seriously? You're crazy. OP deserves it for thinking that "hacking" to change a midterm is hard at all. Chances are the password was easy to guess. 99% of all "hackings" done to private citizens or non-government businesses are actually just bad passwords or phishing. OP son just isn't smart. Smarter than whoever made the password tho
I agree with one in high school I was bored to tits and passed with decent grades,but I half assed everything I did. I never was challenged hell I am in college right now and I am barely putting effort in and passing just fine and by passing I mean A's and B's. Just my opinion though he needs more of a challenge.
When I was in high school, I would get a book from the library, listen to the first five minutes of each class, then read in the back of the room. I powered through a fantasy novel almost every day. I never did any homework. I would ace every test and bring my grades up to a low C. I'm currently a highly paid computer programmer. ... If it was me, and I had to do it all over again... I'd probably stop wasting so much time with pointless busywork.
I have never understood this mentality. Something not being "challenging enough" for you is the exact opposite of an excuse as to why you didn't do it. I can understand being bored with the pacing of a class as everyone else is caught up to speed, but then just do the work and screw around afterwards. Not doing the work just seems like it would make for even more boredom.
my school did that with me....after I failed my freshman year and then bombed outta summer school they tried to put in in Special Ed. but had to give me an IQ test first....and I scored fairly high actually so then the school guidance counselor called me in to talk to me and we had this long discussion about how the classes were all bullshit because it was the same things we'd learned in 8th grade....7th grade...6th grade...5th grade....etc etc etc I mean how many times exactly do have to learn about what nouns, pronouns, verbs, adverbs, adjectives.....how many times can we relearn the same thing over and over and over....reading Romeo and Juliet EVERY year for 5 years when most experts agree it's not even close to being Shakespeare's best work is a little over the top.....after that that put me in advanced classes where I could learn new things and I aced my studies...so you may be right
I understand your point; however, consider the idea that it's hard to pay close attention to something if you know it already- esp. If it's repetitive. Imagine taking a 6week class on driving or using a phone. It's already 2nd nature and you'd have to do detailed projects on it. That would suck.
It's a cockiness thing. I knew how to do it so why should I have to waste my time with dumb shit busy work when I can read instead? Looking back, I really wish I'd switched to AP or gifted (I was already doing honors everything) because when I got to college and had to actually TRY about midway through sophomore year, I had a total meltdown. I recovered, thankfully, but that was a baaaaaddddd time.
I'm one of those kids. I must say that when I went into an honors class it was a horrible decision. But now that I'm at a military academy life is easier because I have structure 24/5 (home on the weekends). Some kids just need that structure. And that's what worked for me. I guess it just varies for each kid.
@7, you'd be surprised. Most schools run on a single network, so if a file is installed on one, it's installed on the whole network. OP's son could easily have installed a keylogger on the network using another student's account as proxy, then logged in using his teachers' accounts and edited the document. It's not rocket science.
Cracking into a server would not be easy. Take into consideration: 1) You must locate remote server. 2) Obtain key information on server, like server brand type of software running etcetera. 3) Exploit or upload backdoor( reverse tcp or similar). 4) Obtain an account that allows editing or gain root depending on the computer. If we are talking about a teachers labtop all the same applies but one could simply use a kiddie script on a disk/ flash drive to have someone else's brilliance auto execute the exploits ... Tough to call with out more knowledge about how or what the kid did ....
Agreed. Sounds like your son is very smart, but a normal kid in the sense that he doesn't like school and doesn't want to try. A lot of smart kids get just ok grades because they don't like school and therefore don't put any effort into it. I understand how people are saying he's bored so try a gifted program so he has a challenge, but in my opinion he won't do any better in a gifted program not because he's not challenged but because he's not interested. I would try things like taking away car privileges (if he's old enough) or possibly grounding him from certain activities until he has completed his homework. He may not see the point in doing homework and getting good grades, but as a parent it's up to you to help make that happen. Knowing he will be allowed the car back, or allowed to go out if he completes his homework is a great incentive!
I completely disagree with 11, 38, & 45. While in past generations it was fairly common/easy for someone to get into a good career without high school or college degrees, the world has changed and it is extremely difficult now. Sure there are the odd exceptions, but the percentage of that happening is extremely slim. It used to be that companies would hire people if they had the skills alone, but now the majority can't get through the door without college on their resumes. There are often 20-30+ people going for the same job and the employers weed them out by merely looking at resumes, no employer is going to look at a resume of someone without a college degree if they have another resume with a college degree beside them.
You might want to look into private school or advanced placement classes, or something along those lines. I'm sure this sounds presumptuous, and I'm sorry for that in advance, but it sounds like his current school situation isn't challenging him enough.
I tend to agree with #1 on this one. I've known a lot of genius kids in my life. Most of them got horrible grades despite being smarter than anyone around them. A gifted program may be helpful in challenging your child and motivating them to do better.