By Godot - 26/04/2017 13:00 - United States - Fontana
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This concept of wage gap is stated in such a black and white way that it does fall short of being realistic. However, when you look at why women choose lower paying jobs, how women are asking for raises at similar rates as men but reveiving them less, why women appear less ambitious, or why less women enter stem fields (and if they do, leave at greater rates)... Then you start to see the nuances of how women are more repressed than men. It's not a slam against men. It's a issue that needs to be addressed. A new study shows that the "Ambition Gap" is related to the company worked for and not related to some inherent female need to be paid less, or with motherhood. So if women are not allowing motherhood to stall their career, and STILL, aren't seeking out higher position that pay more, are we going to claim it's because all women are lazy? Can we actually discuss it as if women were humans also? DOL sued Google for systematic pay disparity between genders. UK passed a law forcing companies to release their pay data by April 2018. Lucky's store was sued (and they lost) for forcing women into traditional female roles (i.e cashiering), showing that even at lower paying jobs, women are funneled into positions that pay less (i.e. Traditional roles). This premise that women want less pay, aren't willing to work for it, and are too stupid to ask for a raise is biased.
The pay gap is a myth, if you look at workers like for like men earn the same as women. You can make an argument around the glass ceiling, and women being directed into certain fields, and that argument is valid to some degree. Myself I think that this idea that men and women should be split 50/50 into every role is silly and unnatural.
foxesntea
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My question is who was this known misogynist that she sited. Now modern day feminism really is not needed in western society, we have all the same rights as a man we are equal to men in every aspect and the wage gap has been debunked countless times. If you feel you are making less then your male coworker simply because you are female there are laws that are there to help you and you could sue the company for their discrimination. I really do not know what this third wave feminism wants.
From Wikipedia: "...third-wave feminists believed there needed to be further changes in stereotypes, media portrayals, and language to define women. The purpose was to celebrate diverse identities and abandon the "victim feminism" ideology, which was enforced in second wave feminism." The more you know!
warrioryell11
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there is no wage gap tho
Uhm well it was debunked and im sure you can find countless videos and certified fact checked websites that show that
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Your colleague is technically right, despite having poor sources of information. The 'pay gap' is the result of the average annual pay of men compared to women, without taking into considering other factors such as hours worked, shift time worked [antisocial hours], training/qualifications, experience in field, attitude/dedication, field of work ect... --Essentially once you take account of the other factors which effect pay, the gender gap drops to zero. Or if you look a the reverse analysis- if the pay gap was true, why aren't companies saving a tonne on their labour budgets by hiring women instead of men?
This concept of wage gap is stated in such a black and white way that it does fall short of being realistic. However, when you look at why women choose lower paying jobs, how women are asking for raises at similar rates as men but reveiving them less, why women appear less ambitious, or why less women enter stem fields (and if they do, leave at greater rates)... Then you start to see the nuances of how women are more repressed than men. It's not a slam against men. It's a issue that needs to be addressed. A new study shows that the "Ambition Gap" is related to the company worked for and not related to some inherent female need to be paid less, or with motherhood. So if women are not allowing motherhood to stall their career, and STILL, aren't seeking out higher position that pay more, are we going to claim it's because all women are lazy? Can we actually discuss it as if women were humans also? DOL sued Google for systematic pay disparity between genders. UK passed a law forcing companies to release their pay data by April 2018. Lucky's store was sued (and they lost) for forcing women into traditional female roles (i.e cashiering), showing that even at lower paying jobs, women are funneled into positions that pay less (i.e. Traditional roles). This premise that women want less pay, aren't willing to work for it, and are too stupid to ask for a raise is biased.