Is this where I should insert a "I'm only trying to get a good look at Uranus" comment? ;P

She sounds like a twisted individual.

Not all pagans are like that. I have pagan friends who work very hard to better their lives and the lives of others. Tell your friend Karma actually pays out, good or bad, in the next life, not this one. She needs to do her homework instead of using a vague idea as an excuse to be lazy.

I am pagan myself, as are many of my friends. Though we worship gods and goddesses, revere (not worship) nature, and believe to our own degree in magic, spirits, karma, and divination, we also believe that the world we live in is primarily a physical, rational one. We may consult tarot cards, or astrology to search for patterns and cyles in our lives but when it comes to making important decision, we use our heads and act rationally. Don't judge all pagans by the actions of uneducated, misinformed idiots who are 'into pagan stuff' and just want attention. very few actual pagans are anything like that.

I'm Pagan and believe very much so that the Goddess has my life planned for me. but I don't see how that means I'm not bettering myself. I work, I go to school, I have a family. don't paint us all with the same brush.