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there's nothing wrong with pubes, but if you need a machete to get through the jungle, it might be time to start shaving

oh my gosh! thank you! you're the first guy who has said this! I don't shave down there... yet. but when I shave my bikini line it itches reeeeeally bad, so it's annoying. and if people expect me to shave down there, they better be expecting me to itch it too.

Well, I'm a girl and I shave because the hair doesn't feel comfortable, but that guy shouldn't have been so insensitive. I'm sorry girl. You know...you don't have to shave if you don't want to.

Wow. What a Romeo. So suave, so smooth, so sophisticated. That said, if it looked like a lion's mane was growing out of your crotch, the polite thing to do would be to trim it up. Bald vaginas creep me out, but there's nothing wrong with a neatly trimmed one. Likewise if his junk looked like wild kingdom, you should've told him to clear the damn jungle. It goes both ways, folks.

you better ******* shave that shit, its ******* gross, no one likes to **** sandpaper so shave that ******* bush if you want any real dick

@286: The solution to this is to stop trying to gussy yourselves up so damn hard just because you feel it's expected of you. Stop allowing yourselves to be manipulated by all these cultural and social influences that only ever came into being because it's so much more profitable to make a person feel insecure about themselves and inadequate than to tell them they're really not that worse off looks-wise than most everyone else. I know it's a lot easier to say than to do, but I mean... guys need to be trained to stop expecting all this needless makeup cake-on dress-up garbage from women. Sure, maybe you won't get as many guys pounding down your door or whatever, but: a) hell, why don't YOU take the initiative of pursuit instead? There's no rule saying guys have to be the aggressive force in a courtship ritual and that women have to be some passive entity whose job is to pretty herself up enough to be pursued. b) do you really want a guy whose only interest in you is the result of all this fake crap that you put on that's as complicated as a suit of armor and forces you to spend hours just changing clothes? Why? What can he possibly bring to your life other than flattering your fakery? c) just going with the flow accomplishes nothing but prolonging these useless and unfair rituals, and until women put their collective foot down and stop buying so much makeup and worrying so much about looking like unattainable ideals that we've been conditioned to believe represent "beauty", you're going to be stuck doing the same thing you're complaining about. And chances are, you already have tons of guys' attention, but everyone's all so wrapped up in ourselves to really notice. However, when you break it down to just shaving, there are definitely cases where guys have it worse. Like back hair, for instance -- at least you can reach your legs and armpits and pubes and (sometimes) mustache. And your hair is normally not nearly as thick as ours. So it depends on the individual, really: I can see a guy with thicker hair and more hair coverage (say on his back) having it harder than a woman with sparse puffs under her armpits who can make a few quick passes up her legs and get all the hair.

In reference to 173, and because it's June, I'd just like to let everyone know that apparently I am a homosexual because I enjoy seeing the labia and not having anything get in the way (or stuck between my teeth) during oral sex. A heterosexual man would want hair to cover everything up, hide it from sight, but that is not what I am, so I will not try to sell you lies. My question is, who really does like a shaved vulva then? If a lesbian likes her partner shaved, is she really thinking about dick in **** and clearly a heterosexual in denial because of this? So obviously she doesn't really like shaved vulva, since she's clearly not a real lesbian, just as no heterosexual guy would like his women shaved.

He is a dick. He should have said it in a more nicer way, but yeah.. shaving is definitely better.

#3 it's not that simple for us either. And for OP: You probably do. Shaving is common courtesy nowadays.

#276 FarSide, or should I say, Far Right Side, whoever brought god into this conversation?? I know some pretty shitty Christians who don't give a damn about anyone, and some pretty awesome athiests who are in the Peace Corp or other humanitarian efforts. Also, you're right, everyone does have the right to make their own decisions, so why are YOU criticizing hers for wanting sex? My guess is that you're bitter and have a lot of pent up sexual tension from not getting laid (ever) and use your "it's b/c i have better morals than u" crap to justify your shitty life. #275, I would totally love to be a bonobo. "Hey was up? Let's screw." "Who are you? Let's screw." "Let's settle this peacefully... let's screw." Homosexual activity? Totally ok. Oral sex? Awesome. And to everyone saying shaving is more hygienic.... false. Bathing in general is hygienic. I assume that when you shower, you wash ALL of your body, including between the legs? Including your beard, however long it may be. Do we say women with super long hair on their heads are dirtier? No, because they wash their hair (at least hopefully). Why should it be any different for pubic hair length? As for the "it feels better during sex" argument, that's personal preference. I've had guys brag to me about how they made their last g/f scream in ecstasy when he did X, she loved it, etc, then he tries it on me and i'm like, uhh is that supposed to feel good?? Everyone's different. Get over it.

how rude!

@289: LOL touché I guess... But it's not like is guys don't understand what a hassle it is to shave. And that goes for any body area. I'm a racing cyclist myself, and a lot of my fellow racers and I actually like to shave our legs even though we are guys. Don't anyone jump on me and call me gay or anything cos I actually can't think of a singe gay racer I know of. We shave our legs because of you go down in a crash, you often will get huge shallow abrasions where the skin is completely gone. I've seen folks with their entire sides missing (skin-wise). These "road rashes" are usually on you legs, and if you got leg hair, you are in for a painful recovery. Also, it makes the after-ride massages feel better ;) And allow me to revise my hyperactive post #273 slightly: it's ok to give it a trim too, as long as it is maintained. I mean it's ok to have a little hair, but there is a certain point where you must draw the line. And if your bf is telling you to shave that shit, I would hazard a guess that you have way crossed that line. So the verdict stands: YDI