She's a bitch if she says no amd a bitch of its a fake. It's a lose lose

how is she a bitch for saying no?

Some guys feel that, if he gives any indication that he's interested in a girl, she's obligated to agree to see him again. It's like the whole "free drinks" thing; if a guy buys a few shots for a girl he likes, she's "supposed" to pay him back with mutual interest, or, in some cases, a one-night stand. These are the same guys that think drinks and "doing the girl a favor" by noticing her count as currency for sex.

I usually just walk away but I've been called a bitch for saying no. Some guys are assholes and don't like being rejected.

I wouldn't think she's a bitch for saying no. But giving false hope by pretending to give out her number is a bitchy thing to do

The thing is women don't do it to be bitchy, they do it to avoid abuse. I've never had this happen because I don't go clubbing, but that's what I've gathered from people's responses here. People go out to have fun, they don't want to have that ruined by creepy people yelling at them for saying they aren't interested which apparently happens often.

I've been rejected loads before, I just say sorry for bothering them and leave.

These are the same guys that complain about the "friend zone" how the "crush"/" love of their life" never notices them". When I first heard of of the "friend zone" I couldn't believe younger guys were actually using that. No one is obligated to return romantic feelings and the notion that you can change their mind or that somehow being friends is seen as them having failed at getting them is terrible.

79, I believe you.

You're right. That was unrelated. As such you may want to consider keeping it to yourself next time. Thanks.

I facepalmed myself so hard I fell out of my chair while reading this comment.

forgive the intrusion but it sounds like you have had an awful guy experience. I hope that changes for the better my south African friend

Did you bother to read what I wrote at all? The problem isn't that I can't say no. The problem is that some guys don't listen no matter how much I insist that I'm not interested. And here's the kicker, if I were to call security or kick him in the balls or whatever then I would be the bitch because the poor guy was just trying his luck and I should have just said no if I wasn't interested. I can say no in several different languages and until I'm blue in the face but some guys STILL won't listen.

Did you not read it? a lot of times when we say no, guys get really persistent. I had a guy that kept bothering me while I was working until I have him my number. Once I did he just texted asking to hook up. Many guys don't take no for an answer.

Then stop being a pussy and call them out on them harassing you, period. This is rediculous /facepalm.

This is one of the very few times that being straightforward with a guy doesn't pay off, unfortunately. Not all guys are willing to move on after only one "No, thanks" once they've invested their interest in a girl; some perceive it as playing hard-to-get, or think, "Damn, I thought [girl + alcohol = sex] every time!" Whether it's blatant stubbornness or a guy's attempt to avoid embarrassment, it's annoying having to involuntarily babysit a guy who won't leave you alone.

39/49, it's great that you take "not interested" at face value, but as you've hopefully figured out by now, not all guys do. Maybe instead of getting pissed at us women for taking what is sometimes the only safe course of action, you could try telling other men that no means no.

think about the poor asshole who now gets a random dick pick. women that do that shit are just non confrontational people that do passive aggressive shit to "solve" their problems to both men and woman that can't say no and get guilted into it grow a pair. its not attractive. you aren't responsible for your own mental faculties ? is that the point you are trying to make? if so great job !!!!

All I see in this thread are privileged dudes who have no idea who terrifying it can be to just BE a woman. Sometimes you can't even enjoy a night out with friends without being harassed. But mine of you have ever experienced that so you're completely ignorant to what that can do to a person. I bet you blame rape victims for not standing up for themselves, too.

hmm. a stranger has sent me his official proof of penis paper work, I had better send mine back! is that how you see that going down?

Too many guys cross the line nowadays, I feel bad for girls who have to deal with this shit. It almost makes me feel bad to be a guy. The clubs I have been too don't check you for anything, many of the people are high as a kite using drugs the entire night.

I was once downright forced to give my number to a guy at a club. My boyfriend had left to use the bathroom, and I was alone waiting for him when all of a sudden a huge guy comes along: he stood right in front of me, way too close so I could "admire" how big and scary he was, and he asked for my number in a flat, aggressive tone. "Uuh sorry, but I'm not here alone..." With the creepiest voice he just replied "I said 'give me your number'. I had nowhere to go. My boyfriend was taking ages to do his business in the toilet, and mr Giant was really intimidating. I ended up having to give him my real number (the dude insisted on calling it right in front of me to make sure I didn't give him a fake one), and only then did he leave. People don't realize how often things like this happen, and how scary and frustrating it is to deal with men like this. Women who give out fake numbers are rarely doing it just for the sake of being mean!

I know how you feel, 59. The same thing happened to me a few years back. The main difference was, instead of one guy, it was a group of four. They weren't body builders or anything, but they kept pressing me to "go home" with them. When I told them I was with my boyfriend (who was in the bathroom also), they didn't buy it, of course. I had to beat around the bush for a minute or two, and my boyfriend was, for lack of better terminology, quite irate when he came out and saw them eyeing me.