"...then Grandma asked to join. FML"

i still wonder why people don't take more precautions when there's a possibility of someone being around who could potentially walk in on you... you definitely 100% deserved that one

#109, there certainly is something they can do about it. Kick your ass out of the house. We'll see how concerned you are about having sex when you are homeless and hungry.

No one will kick their kids out for having sex. Well, no one in their right mind. They'll just lose their little fantasy world about daddy's little pristine girl.

If a kid does not follow the rules he/she should be severely punished. If they have sex against their parents wishes, then the parents should cut them off. That will teach them. Just maybe a parent with a little life experience realizes that teenagers having sex is not a good idea. I know that fmylife is full of degenerates who think that sex should be done as much as possible for fun. My stance has nothing to do with religion, so quit giving me that tripe. It has everything to do with the fact that casual sex is for the weak. Until you are 18, you are your parents property. You don't have the freedom to do whatever you want. You will do exactly what your told or you will be punished.

And speeders should be locked in prison. That'll teach them. How is casual sex for the weak? If anything, not having casual sex is for the weak who can't handle separating feelings from physical because it's too much thinking and emotional maturity.

Your reality must be pretty damn sad if sex is really no different from anything else that you do. Obviously I wasn't saying that the *only* reason to have sex is to start a family. I said that starting a family is sex's inherent biological purpose and that's why it is in itself a more important act than eating ice cream. To some extent that purpose still applies today, it has nothing to do with "evolving beyond" sex as an important commitment to your partner and possible start of family until artificial insemination or some other way of making children without sex becomes the norm. I mean, no sh*t sex is more than a baby-producing act, but it's still an act of great commitment. And I like how you responded to all of two points that I made. As for the 112/113 comments, I don't know that I totally agree with eoh42, but casual sex is not a sign of emotional maturity and thinking. In fact, totally the opposite - going out and hooking up with some random person requires absolutely no thinking or any kind of maturity in the least. It's waiting and making a responsible decision that actually takes some responsibility and thought.

113: What? 114: Agreed. OP: Really? You "thought" she left? Your door was unlocked? You're pretty stupid. YDI

OK cyxx, listen sex can be meaningless, you can have loveless affairs for only physical pleasure. BUT when you have sex with someone you truly love it is a special thing that goes far beyond that of loveless sex. HAVE SEX before you comment on it lots of people have sex for the physical pleasure but again when you do it with someone you love you can easily distinguish it and it doesn't lose any importance.

cyxx, you really only made 2 or 3 relevant points. I responded to them. I like how you're taking a shot in the dark at which one you think is more mature and requires emotional stability. But on that one, you're just off. You don't have a clue what you're talking about, but there's no way I can explain it because you just don't have the life experience or the objectivity to reach the understanding. It's not *my* reality. Sex is just like everything else in the universe in that it is what you make of it. It's not inherently anything. Just as life is what you make of it. Your life isn't awesome and important just because you're alive. It's up to you to give it meaning.

116 - "when you have sex with someone you truly love it is a special thing that goes far beyond that of loveless sex." Perfect, that's exactly what I'm saying, that you should wait for that specialness with someone you truly love and are committed to. 117 - It would be nice if you could make an actual argument here rather than saying that I'm "just off" and "don't have a clue". Thanks. Anyway. I'm not exactly sure what you're calling a shot in the dark - if it's about the casual sex requires maturity thing, what are you talking about? It's totally the opposite - casual sex requires NO thinking whatsoever. Nada. It's why so many hookups happen when people are drunk, and they regret it after when they've come to their senses again. Getting physical isn't exactly hard. What requires maturity is the ability to stop and think and be responsible with with your emotions and your body (do you know how easy it is to get STDs from casual sex partners? ... yeah. very.) Oh, now who's not living in reality? Things have inherent meanings, purposes, and connotations from society and inner morality whether we like it or not. Granted there are some differences for different people, but there is some extent of unity in human thought, and the importance of sex (or at least sex that is beyond just physical pleasure) is one of those things. Sex isn't "just like everything else". It is inherently meant to start a family and form an emotional connection. It's a physical accompaniment of the ultimate emotional commitment you make to your life partner. And you share both that physical and that emotional commitment only with the person you really love. As for the "life experience" and "try it" thing, for both 116 and 117 - Just because I have never, say, tried heroin, doesn't mean I can't understand that I should stay away from it. (Before you start dissecting this, I KNOW that sex isn't a bad thing that you should probably not try ever, whereas heroin is.) And yeah, because you're SO objective yourself, deja54.

Define "inner morality". And what's the source? Also, yes, you can get STDs from casual (or not casual) sex partners. If you're stupid. And yes, I'm objective. You're demonstrating why you're not.