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What if they used all their possible options and the dog still tries to escape? Like I said in my comment. Dogs have a higher thresh hold of pain then we do and their necks are thicker then ours. Instead of jumping to conclusions read up about the collars.

The thing is- there is no such thing as used up all the options. There is no dog which can't be trained. Not one dog. Using electric collars doesn't mean training them. You're not doing anything, and the dogs don't see you in any different way. Once you assert dominance over a dog, which isn't hard to do at all, it will stay that way for life. A dog will never question your dominance once it realises you're the "Alpha", ever. Like I said in MY comment, it's all a matter of knowing HOW to train the dogs. If you get a dog, it's your responsibilty to make sure it obeys you. So you can get a dog to learn, by itself without your involvement, not to go out the fence. What if say a friend or whoever visits, and he shows aggression? The collar won't do any good here, but if the dog would have recognised you as the authority, a slight peck or however you trained him would tell him he can calm down, and that nothing is wrong. The point is, the collar is a half assed solution. Once the dog knows you're in charge, there is NOTHING you can't teach him, you just gotta know how to approach it.

Some dogs just refuse to listen when it comes to other things. Granted I shouldn't have said "all possible options" but OP could have just gotten to the end of her rope and couldn't think of any other way to train her dog. We don't know. The whole showing "dominance" over a dog just puts fear into the dog so they must obey you. When it comes to these collars, if you hide it well, they wont know it's you doing it and you wont be the bad guy. I'm talking about the shock collars that you have a wireless remote for. Not the fence ones. Yes they wouldn't be a good tool to stop aggression, but the other type of collars and some proper training should solve that issue. These collars aren't a half ass solution these are a great training tool.

Showing dominance strikes fear? What? That's the problem with dog owners. Some love the dogs so much they think it hurts their feelings or makes them afraid of them if they show dominance (or if they use the leash too hard). That is not the case. Dogs are a pack animal, that's how they WORK. If YOU won't be the dominant figure, they will be, even if you don't realise it. Dogs don't fear you if you show dominance, they just LISTEN to you. Just as a tribe listens to the tribe leader, the dog will also listen to its leader. Following your logic, pack animals can't exist, because they all have a dominant Alpha. If you ABUSE the dog and hit it, it will fear you. That's not what dominance means. It is not a good training tool because you WANT your dog to know that it can't do something simply *because* you don't want it to. I'm not trying to criticise you or your ways of training dogs, I'm asking you to consider what I said. Dominance is important. Saying it just makes your dogs afraid of you is stupid. (Again, I'm not calling you stupid)

Make perfect sense and I used the wrong choice of words again. D: But that's what these collars are doing. Showing that they cant do what they want to do. Establishing rules in the pack.

Yes but that was my point. This is half assed in a way because, when you have a dog, you want it to learn to obey you, no matter what, right? You said so yourself, the dog won't know it's you, so it just learns that going outside hurts a bit, for whatever reason. It doesn't learn anything else. If you spend some time with the dog, however, making sure he knows you're in charge, you don't have to spend money on these things. I'm not going about this in the "abuse" direction at all. I'm sure that there are harmless ones that don't hurt at all (Just as much as I'm sure, however, that there are some which do). My point is that it's A.) A waste of money. B.) Won't help you when you want to train it to not jump at strangers, or attack your ironing board when you pull it out (Dog Whisperer shows some of the weirdest dogs). It's very specific. You could either spend money on various other instruments, or take some time to train him yourself, then he'll listen to whatever you say regardless of the situation. Cheers =) Also I hate all of you for having dogs, mine died a while back and I can't get ones just yet.. D: I want dogs, I've never NOT had dogs. D: