Today, a McDonald's employee had to correct my math after counting out $2.37 in change. I'm in AP Calculus and am currently learning how to find the derivative of an inverse of a logarithm. FML
I agree, your life sucks (4048) - you totally deserved it (22214)
On 11/20/2009 at 2:26am - misc - by Links (man) - United States (Washington)
OP... derivative of an inverse of a logarithm? in AP calc? i did that shit the first semester of PRE calc. and yes for any smartass, i want a fucking cookie! >:( but yeah... woop-de-fucking-doo, you can't count well all the time, not expected of you to be able to be right in each and every single math related thing you do and be perfect. unless if it's because you think you should since you're in "AP calculus" then fuck you for thinking too highly of yourself for being decently good at math (emphasis on IF mind you)
and yes i'm a lil pissy after seeing some stupid ass fucking fml's lately. i mean, who the FUCK chokes on a chip!?!?!?
#37 - On 11/20/2009 at 7:17am by brkn_hearted
That is fucking epic and exactly what I was going to say if you fucking are in AP calc and can't do the derivative of a Log then you are a fucking retard and for you fucking retards out that the inverse of a log is a polynomial just fyi not hard it is called the power rule
#74 - On 11/20/2009 at 9:16am by bullshitdetector
.....pre calc doesn't do instantaneous rate of change....... so......false
#75 - On 11/20/2009 at 9:17am by musicpirate456
#64: I'd be willing to bet the OP said that because it sounds good. At least he didn't say something completely nonsensical such as ƒ(x)÷ßØ∏±∑∆3∞©£¢=10.
Let me just say this in a way you can understand. AP Calculus is not difficult, in fact at most high schools it's a joke and most colleges recommend you take it over. Calculus itself (as long as you're not doing analysis) is also not a difficult subject and you should not feel proud of yourself for being enrolled in your first REAL math course.
Inverse of the log, #64. Which either means 1/loga(x) (multiplicative inverse) or -loga(x) (additive inverse) or maybe even a^x, which is kind of a stretch. But you're right, not that hard if you know what to do.
To the OP, I am through Calc 4 and have friends who have forgotten how to long divide, but they can do LaPlace transforms and other difficult things like that. It happens. Use it or lose it.
#102 - On 11/20/2009 at 10:23am by threestallsdown
Don't worry, OP... I'm a math major and one of my biggest jokes with my math buddies is how we can't do 9 times 5. (Which when I actually think about I know it's 45). You forget about simple arithmetic when you start doing higher math.
Also, I just saw this guy speak about math in the real world vs. math in the classroom. They've done studies where they go up to street vendors when children have taken over for their parents while their parents ran a quick errand or used the restroom or whatever, and asked for items that would require complicated computations, and the kids could quickly and easily make these computations in their head, take money, give change, etc. They then gave their parents a hand-written exam to give the kids at home with the same exact problems they had to do on the street only with no distractions and as much time as they needed, and the kids did really poorly. The point of his talk was that we needed simulators or really good video games to teach kids math.
My point is that working at McDonald's gives you real life experience handling money... they do it all the time, so they should be better at it than you if you're not working a job at a cash register.
Not to mention the fact that the McDonald's employee could be taking AP Calculus as well... or higher math... but I hope your point was that anyone had to correct your change, not that it was a McDonald's employee because that'd be pretty pompous.
#131 - On 11/20/2009 at 12:57pm by 12345678dance
I worked at McDonalds as my first job when I was 14. Some guy tried to show how smart he was by asking me what Pythagoreans theorem was. At that point I wasn't even in high school so I didn't know what it was. 7 years later I'm about to graduate from UW-Madison, one of the top engineering schools in the nation. Where is he now?..still working at a fast food restaurant.
Lesson to learn: don't try to impress someone with the knowledge you think you have because chances are that someone else knows more than you.
ps - AP classes aren't shit, no one is impressed and you make yourself look like a douche when you brag
#154 - On 11/20/2009 at 3:06pm by rockindavan88
Er, OP? Just because you are in a "higher" level math doesn't automatically mean you won't ever make a mathematical mistake in your life. I understand concepts easily, but I'll also have to think hard what 7*4 is. Like someone said above (I'm too lazy to look), he calculates change ALL DAY. Of course he's better at it.
And why do you assume that McDonald's employees are all idiots? Working the fast food industry has nothing to do with intelligence.
Really, OP, come off the high horse and view the world sans rose colored glasses.
#183 - On 11/20/2009 at 7:29pm by CyclonePsycho
thank you!! i was thinking the same thing! also, just b/c someone is working at McDonald's doesn't mean they are an idiot, especially in this economy...so i say grow the fuck up!
#189 - On 11/20/2009 at 8:00pm by settingjunefree
I knew opening this FML would be like getting eyeSTDs. When you have a MIT engineer dad who tortures you with the maths, you grow up to build robots with kill-switches. Except mostly you train them to whizz in drinking fountains, make you Indian Food, and hump the neighbors for your amusement :/
That's not hard.
You just used math terms that people who never took pre-Calc wouldn't understand.
I doubt you have any idea what you said, to be honest.
But FYL for putting yourself above the person who might be hiring you when you get off your cloud.
#216 - On 11/21/2009 at 4:26pm by dudeitsdanny
Also.. I love how you say "I'm currently learning how to do the derivative of an inverse logarithm"... you mean f(x) = ln(u)... F(x) = u'/u.
OMIGAWD SO FREAKING HARD.
Christ you're pathetically retarded.
He's learning to do the derivative of the inverse of a logarithm... that would be exponential. In other words, dy/dx = xe^x
No big deal. Simple mistake. I have a PhD in English and misstype/spell words weekly. That doesn't mean I'm any less intelligent.
can #whatever the fuck you are i dont really care shut the fuck up when someones ALSO expressing his opinion?
#170 - On 11/20/2009 at 5:10pm by ravinderkaler
Wait wait wait, #170, you're doing the same thing. Dammit, everyone just say whatever the hell they want.
YDI for learning how to find the derivative of an inverse of a lagarthim. Astrophysics is where its at
#3 - On 11/20/2009 at 6:28am by WeStayCrunk24x7
Should've stopped at "AP Calculus". Writing out what you're currently learning makes it seem like you're trying too hard to prove that you're above making arithmetic errors, especially when what you're learning is not at all complicated.
#5 - On 11/20/2009 at 6:34am by paranoidkiwie
IZ IS AN HIGH SKOOLER IN ZHE AP CALUSKUS! I IZ A GENUS! ME GO TO MICK DOUGHNUTS AND LOWLY CASHER CORECT ME MATH! BUT IZ IS GENUS! ME NO MAEK MISTEAKS! IZ IMPOSIBLE!
That aside the kid deserves it only because he is an arrogant prick who probably (this is an assumption) never had to get a part time job or do actual work during his time in high school. If he had he would have realized that *gasp* people who work minimum wage jobs go to high school too! Shocker! But not only that... some of them may even have go, have gone, or completed and moved on from college! Gasp so-shocking-I-just-had-a-heart attack.
That said whoopdeefreaking do you are in AP Calc. Give me a call when you start doing Discrete Math, Differential equations, or some serious programming and not memorizing pretty much a simplistic formula. Actually even if you did do that I would still have to ask you to stop being a snob, a douche, and/or completely naive to the world around you.
#82 - On 11/20/2009 at 9:33am by theblazian
Everyone makes mistakes handing out change.
I am pretty fast with money and I've memorized the correct change for every transaction. But there are some times when I have a long line or something and I just get rushed and mess up. Thankfully there are kind and honest people out there who will let you know without keeping it or yelling at you.
And who cares if you are in AP Calc. I never needed that class. Only ever took one math class in college. AP classes just don't impress anyone.
#6 - On 11/20/2009 at 6:37am by saviisneat
If you say you didn't need AP classes, you probably didn't care too much about college. 'Cause AP classes save you hundreds of dollars in college. Duh.
#44 - On 11/20/2009 at 7:34am by bholland16
Not always. My college accepts AP credits but doesn't really let you take any fewer courses unless you come in freshman year with a plan to finish early. It just means you get to take more elective courses. Even when it does allow you to take fewer courses, not all colleges charge by the credit.
actually i took one math class w/o taking AP...i took a college now course ( for math) which in my opinion is way better than AP...instead of a whole semester of high school it was only for 7 weeks nd still got 3 credits
#199 - On 11/20/2009 at 10:22pm by X0XyentroucX0X
im pretty sure the derivative of a logarithm is (a^(n-1))x(n)x(ln (a))
y = log (x)
y^-1 = 10^x
dy^-1/dx = (x)x(10^(x-1))x(ln (x))
im pretty sure
prolly not correct though
=P
SMART ASS!!! lol no but i give u props tho and ims eriously not bein sarcastic... cuz i fail to understand math almost completely just after algebra
#19 - On 11/20/2009 at 6:55am by StudBoiAyeEm
lol, don't worry. i'm half way through an engineering degree and i never learned my times tables. thats what calculators are for
Well he doesn't really need to know them. That's what calculators are for. He needs to know linear algebra and differential equations and vector analysis. Significantly more important than fucking times tables.
I'd say I was in the same boat, but in first year we couldn't use calculators, so I *had* to learn them.
Now that I'm in fourth year I've filled that part of my brain with more important things. Like thoughts of boobies.
Oh dear...
I'm doing a maths degree at Imperial College London, and we don't use calculators.
If you're at all serious about maths, you won't use a calculator.
#145 - On 11/20/2009 at 1:58pm by cantthinkofone
If you're at all serious about some types of math, you need a calculator... number theory, for instance... it's 100% necessary for some calculations
#157 - On 11/20/2009 at 3:11pm by 12345678dance
That's why you're only half way through your engineering degree. Write back when you're all the way through.
#186 - On 11/20/2009 at 7:53pm by FerrariCake
what does mcdonalds have to do with math skillz? finding the derivitive of an inverse function isn't difficult. nor the rules of logrithms are also easy to memorize and use. your just retarded. the guy obviously was smarter than you. I work at rite aid and take linear algebra. meaning most likely, I can do better math that my customers. so take your ap calc and suck it.
#11 - On 11/20/2009 at 6:43am by vrodnumb44
1. AP calculus is a joke.
2. None of my math profs could do basic arithmetic. And they had PhDs.
3. How does not counting change on one day actually fuck your life?
#12 - On 11/20/2009 at 6:43am by farflungfloyd
1. Yup
2. Lazy Bastards!
3. It doesn't, he's just an insecure bitch
#25 - On 11/20/2009 at 7:00am by ForestFire0
My AP Calc class was far from a joke! I was lucky enough to get a teacher who worked us hard, cuz when we got to the AP test we thought *it* was a joke. We all breezed through it and most of us got 5's.
If it weren't for that teacher, I probably wouldn't have gone on to major in Mathematics and eventually land the fantastic job that I have now :)
Moral of the story: the world needs more good Math teachers!
#42 - On 11/20/2009 at 7:30am by BeeSkwaird
To answer your question on how this is an FML, it is obvious. The Op did not tell us he was trying to impress this girl (she has a beard but we won't judge). This girl gets turned on by change. She tells him, i will go down on you right now if you can count change. She is also the princess of a magical land called McChange. Turns out if he had counted right he would have been able to marry her and never work a day in his life. So when the McDonald's employee was able to correct him the Bearded Princess fell in love with him and they danced into the sunset and are now happily wed with bearded, minimum wage children.
Can I ask you what your fantastic job is? I'm a senior math major and I have no clue what I want to do with my life.
#132 - On 11/20/2009 at 1:03pm by 12345678dance
Who the fuck you think you are that someone from mcdonalds can't be smart? A lot of people work at chain restarunts to pay for school, medical bills, etc.
so does that mean coz they work at macdonalds they cant add up! What a joke and a snobbish thing to say!
#14 - On 11/20/2009 at 6:45am by englandtilidie
everyone who does advanced maths fails at the simple stuff
when i did a-level maths i forgot how to do some of the simple stuff, but i was never that great anyway
and more importantly, the McDonald's employee had a machine telling them the answer
I work at McDonald's and I am a 5th year senior in college. one of my coworkers is an engineering major taking Engineering Calculus 3 and when I look at him catching up on homework for it when we are slow, it looks nothing like the math I know (Agriculture major with a Business minor here), so, don't feel like that is a FML moment.
#16 - On 11/20/2009 at 6:48am by aimhighiflots
haha I just did an exam that included finding derivatives of inverses of logarithms :D
it's actually pretty easy >.>
but lol that's not FML - you stuffed up. So does everybody once in a while. Deal with it XD
#17 - On 11/20/2009 at 6:49am by OLOtheDemigodess
Little bit too much information, since derivatives are pretty easy, and don't have much to do with basic arithmetic.
#18 - On 11/20/2009 at 6:50am by kevind23
dont be so snobby about mcdonalds employees, maybe theyre studying maths too just in maccy dees to make their way
#20 - On 11/20/2009 at 6:55am by hackwack123
everyone makes mistakes. I make that mistake too. but in also in 8 grade. regular math, not algebra. but hey, my math teacher makes mistakes too! don't feel too bad. at least you didn't get cut from a lollipop. break a lollipop, it bites you as its last will and testament.
#21 - On 11/20/2009 at 6:56am by xSceneSceneBabyx
Mc Donalds employees are most of the time students trying to earn some money.
But the deriverate of an invest logarithm... I kind of learned that in highschool. So no big deal, it's not rocket science.
I am not voting on this one because abstract calcul and advanced calcul is not the same as simple calcul (i have trouble adding pourcentages to get it to 100%.. i might say that 77% and 33% make 100, which is false).
#23 - On 11/20/2009 at 6:58am by 4ube
All this proves is that right now, for you, knowing how to calculate the derivative of *anything* has no bearing at all on what a douche you are.
I take that back - it seems to have expedited the process..
Yea you know since during this economic crisis someone who also took the stuff you feel so highly about taking might be working at Mickie Ds. YDI for judging people where they work, a job is a job no matter where it is at the moment.
#29 - On 11/20/2009 at 7:04am by jgardner12
YDI for pretending to sound smart calling it the "inverse of a logarithm" thinking that nobody on here would know what you meant. "Inverse of a logarithm" is simply the exponential, and derivative of e^x is e^x. Dumbass.
#34 - On 11/20/2009 at 7:12am by SecretAsianMan
Thank you! I was gonna post this. But to be fair he said logarithm not natural log so it could be any a^x. But in that case the derivative is simply a^x*ln(a).
There OP, now that you know the 'derivative of the inverse of a logarithm' you can focus on counting change.
It's Mcdonalds for god sakes, just dont tell them how 'good' you are at math and no one will care, they expect that kind of stuff from chain take-out places most of the time
#35 - On 11/20/2009 at 7:13am by baby_gurl2405
I just think op should be saying ''FML I study math''
But hey, thats just me :)
#38 - On 11/20/2009 at 7:17am by MrWombastic
OP are you saying what I think you're saying? YDI for thinking that just because you are studying maths that somehow makes you smarter than someone else who works at McDonalds. Just because they work there doesnt make automatically mean they are less intelligent. Its a job and everyone has to start somewhere. Maybe they are studying too, and rely on McDonalds to help them pay for it, you dumbass.
#46 - On 11/20/2009 at 7:37am by Reality_bites
YDI for thinking you are better than a MacDonald's employee. Pompous arrogant ass and dumb to boot!
#47 - On 11/20/2009 at 7:46am by patticake1601
Based on my experience, calculus is easier than adding and subtracting. I can derive in my head, but need my fingers or a calculator to add. Also, I know some people who work at fast food places who have taken higher level math classes. (I'm talking college, not high school.)
I love how the majority of the people beating up on this poor guy can't spell and they have awful grammer, anddddddd are using the wrongs words on their sentences. ha.
so? I've found no matter how intelligent a person is, they're only human, they sometimes make really stupid mistakes.
Quit being a whiny little bitch. A lot of people have problems remembering the fundamentals as they go higher in their education. It's not that uncommon and it's nothing to be ashamed of. You should be ashamed of the cocky-ass way in which you dismiss the McDonald's employee as being inferior to you. Jackass.
YDI, and I hope that you told the employee that you are in AP Calc and "currently learning how to find the derivative of an inverse of a logarithm" as you were yelling at him that he gave you the wrong change, just so that he could laugh at your sorry ass after his buddy in the back wiped a booger in your BigMac.
Shit, we learned all that crap right after mapping our polar coordinates and jacking around with Mandelbrot's work in freshman geometry when I was in high school. Not that I remember any of that. I hate math. It makes my brain itch and bleed.
#53 - On 11/20/2009 at 8:06am by hot_mess88
Wow cause English Majors never make grammatical mistakes and doctors never have patients die on the table. You are human, while you might/sort of/maybe think/be good at math, it does not mean you are the BEST MATHEMATICIAN IN THE WORLD. Also, how do you know that the person working at MacDonalds didn't have several shiny degrees and a bad luck streak with the recession and has to work there.
I did a brief stint a Mcy D's while I was in college. Had 4 semesters of calculus and differential equations under my belt by that time.
My arithmetic improved during that couple of months because they made me work the drive-through window, and count back change from a drawer opened by the manager's key instead of having the computer tell me how much the person was due. Reduced their drive-through times that way.
Next time you wish to make a derivative and derisive remark about the people at the till, consider asking them for help with your homework first. "Would you like fries with that?"
OBVIOUSLY this asshole is too stupid to understand logarithms therefore they can't understand how to do simple math!!!! it's soo simple people!
#58 - On 11/20/2009 at 8:15am by eyeballs0_0
You're studying mathematics, but it's your arithmetic that sucks. More accurately, it's your arithmetic with money that less than that of a minimum-wage food worker.
The good news is that with you skill in the abstract, but ignorance of common sense, you won't be getting paid too much money, so your errors can only be small. ;)
Psh, I'm a junior physics major in college, and I suck at basic math. Get used to it, the fundamentals will slowly slip away as you use calculators more and more.
#60 - On 11/20/2009 at 8:16am by StreetSinger
how is this a fml.....i dont get it
what, u think that bc ur taking a calculus class u are like the god of math, above making an error?
#65 - On 11/20/2009 at 8:33am by athame1983
You learn to find the derivative of an inverse of a logarithm in grade 12.
YDI OP for being such a dumb ass in three ways - counting the change, assuming the McD's employee is a retard, and thinking the derivative is hard.
news flash for u. my neighbour works part time at mcdonalds and she has a masters degree in actuarial science and mathematics. don't think that because they work there they're not smart!
Oh mister big high school math whiz! Look out for this guy, folks! He might be the next Einstein!
#72 - On 11/20/2009 at 9:13am by TheKingDon
sometimes when we take higher levels of math, we forget basic math. i took calc my senior year of high school, and now i'm in math 111 (which is math content for teachers...which is basic math) and i had trouble with long division at first. it's because we don't practice basic math often when we have calculators. :)
#73 - On 11/20/2009 at 9:15am by asafetybuzz
AP Calculus. WOW.
You must be a genius.
Because no one totally takes/has taken it.
#79 - On 11/20/2009 at 9:26am by jaeilssanguh
The inverse of logarithms is easy. It's either got e^x, which is just d/dx e^x = e^x, or a^x, which is just d(a^x)/dx = ln a a^x.
People suck at math on the internet. : /
Why is it that as soon as people join AP Calculus, they assume they automatically know all there is to know about math?
YDI - I worked at McDonalds for 9 years and have my college degree in Architecture. I worked there through high school, college and while working my full-time job. So just cause someone works at McDonalds doesn't mean they're dumb.
just because someone works in fast food it doesn't make em stupid!!!
#85 - On 11/20/2009 at 9:39am by greengrass12
dude you DO realize that in order to finish high school, most likely he'd have taken calculus, regardless of whether or not he works at McDonalds. Plus its probably just a day job, for all you know he could be a poor ivy league student.
I don't know where the hell you go to school, but the highest math any state that I know of requires is basic pre-cal/trig.
#120 - On 11/20/2009 at 12:32pm by TheKingDon
I worked at McDonald's and I've completed the standard Calculus progression (1,2,3,4) and I am now taking advanced math topics. :/
#89 - On 11/20/2009 at 9:47am by nesquikr0x
YDI for
a. taking calculus
b. thinking that taking calculus makes you
better than him
#91 - On 11/20/2009 at 9:49am by DynamicDave
Do you have Mohler as a teacher? I'd totally buy it if you did... lol
#92 - On 11/20/2009 at 9:52am by Randomrandomosit
happens to the best of us man. i clept out of most my college math but i still look like an idiot when i do basic math on the fly
#93 - On 11/20/2009 at 9:54am by lhcarpenter
How could you possibly sleep tonight? Oh god, you made a horrible mistake! Seriously, i'm surprised that you can go on with your life, i would be totally emo in your situation.
#95 - On 11/20/2009 at 10:02am by GreenRupee
Don't worry OP. That's why we use calculators for basic arithmetic when we move on to advanced math topics.
#98 - On 11/20/2009 at 10:18am by lostfaithinpppl
The only way to get good at doing mental arithmetic is to actually do mental arithmetic. YDI for being an arrogant ass who thinks that being in AP Calculus means that you should automatically be better at all forms of math than anyone not in AP Calculus. It's a useful thing to have on your transcript when applying to college, but beyond that nobody cares.
#101 - On 11/20/2009 at 10:23am by cthulhu1138
Maybe that person also holds the same degree and you just got to see your future. Of course you will work under that person because you suck at math. Have a nice day!
#103 - On 11/20/2009 at 10:29am by CallMeHush
YDI for not remembering that humans make mistakes sometimes.
#105 - On 11/20/2009 at 10:36am by pagemaster
wow i hate these types of fmls. OMG I COUNTED CHANGE WRONG, my life sucks so bad, now im going to tell you my life story. also, AP cal? super fucking hard course in high school, good job trying to sound smart
a^xlna
Big Deal. I've got a BA in Mathematics and Secondary ED. and I still get change wrong sometimes lol.
#107 - On 11/20/2009 at 10:42am by Shinespike
lol i think you would fail IB math higher level lol.....try finding integral of an equation that is practically an entire line of your page filled with trig (cos, tan, sin, cotan, cosine, csc), logs, lns, and e. lol have fun
Thats a high school thing btw
anyway everyone messes up change. Even people who probably have a Phd in math :P
Oh, it definitely is worth it, and I milked my AP credits for all they were worth. I'm just saying, not caring about AP classes doesn't necessarily mean you don't care about college, or about how to pay for it.
Ahahaha, calculus is to math like an ant to an elephant. "currently learning"? my friend, you should be able to "learn" this in five minutes, or even better, UNDERSTAND the logic behind differentiation and integration, and you won't have to make learning a single derivative a stand-alone process. It's ridiculous!
This is not a FML, but I'll click YDI, because you think your math. education is worth mentioning.
How is this an FML? You miscounted some change. Plus you used superfluous language with that inverse logarithm which is simply an exponential. Plus AP Calc 1 is easy, so are taking those derivatives. The biggest FML in this story is the fact that you think you are good at math because of this as implied by your FML, when atm your nothing more than a glorified bean counter, and apparently a bad one at that.
Stop judging those greasy bastards, studies have shown there is brain activity in the workers there. They should be given the same rights as real people
CMON PEOPLE.
Obviously OP is one smart person if he is taking AP calc!
dont you all know that everyone who "took AP calculus and learned how to take the derivative of inverse logs", they are gonna be CEO's of major companies by age 25? and everyone of them lost their virginity before age 14 and made their first million right in college?
#113 - On 11/20/2009 at 11:59am by GreenDaemon21
hey they always say that in the higher levels of math you lose the ability to do simple arithmetic
#116 - On 11/20/2009 at 12:07pm by ravar5
Isn't the inverse of log an exponential? Dude that aint high level math... It's really simple so its more of an FML if you're STILL working on that AND couldn't get the change right...
YDI. Why do you assume that just because someone is working at McDonald's they're less intelligent than you. Maybe the employee also took AP calc. Maybe they're in college. You're a pompous ass for assuming that. The summer after my first year at Brown University I worked at McDonald's. I'm now in graduate school at Harvard. It's what you get for making assumptions.
#118 - On 11/20/2009 at 12:20pm by honeyishrnkdakid
I would rather be bad at mental math (which i am) than be bad at calculus because accountants barely have to know simple math but engineers have to know higher math. I'll let you guess at who makes a shit load more
Umm... wow. I don't care about what happened at McDonalds, but you think what you're learning is hard? The inverse of ln(x) is e*x... and the derivative is x'e*x...
#121 - On 11/20/2009 at 12:36pm by ZellMurasame
And in Calculus it's common to use a calculator to figure out basic math.
#122 - On 11/20/2009 at 12:37pm by GriefBacon
wth does that have to do with anything? Well guess what: I'm a medical student and imma say...ur an arrogant fucktard. Grow up, kid.
YDI for not being able to do simple math and implying that someone working in fast food is dumber than you are. Just because someone works at McDonald's doesn't mean they're retarded. I know a genetic pathologist and an entomologist that both worked at McDonald's while starting school, they're defiantly not stupid.
#124 - On 11/20/2009 at 12:37pm by TheTruth1428
So? Everybody makes mistakes when counting money, it's not the same as math.
Besides, is a derivative of a logaritm supposed to be difficult???
And just so you know : most Mc Donald's employees are students...
lol got that same class my self and we are working on the same thing as a senior.
#127 - On 11/20/2009 at 12:39pm by sexyladiesman
I'm in calc 3 learning how to use line integrals, and I can no longer do basic arithmetic. Deal with it.
#129 - On 11/20/2009 at 12:51pm by GillesDeRais
haha don't worry, it was a simple mistake! but obviously no one else can get that, i sure think that would be embarrassing !
#133 - On 11/20/2009 at 1:06pm by supernova32
Working at McDonald's is not equivalent to being stupid. It takes a lot of humility to work at a place where dilholes like the OP will walk in and assume he is better than the employee.
#135 - On 11/20/2009 at 1:15pm by Darling_Cherry
And so what??? You think you're better than a guy who works at Mc Donalds??? Guess you were wrong huh?!
Sounds like YDI, idiot. Being in "AP Calculus" doesn't mean much anymore these days, obviously.
#137 - On 11/20/2009 at 1:22pm by epccsplayer
haha, you think you're good at math because you're taking AP Calculus? What a joke. YDI for being a psuedo-intellectual and pretentious asshole
YDI prick, a position at any job does NOT necessarily correlate to their intelligence. perhaps you should fill out an application though? seems you might learn a thing or two.
#139 - On 11/20/2009 at 1:31pm by FrozenSoliid
I've worked at McDonald's for 4 years. All through high school and now into college. Over these four years I have discovered that the customers are often dumber than the employees. In fact, my store manager has a business degree from a school that is considered second only to U-W Madison in the mid-west and she makes damn good money. I guarantee if you worked at McDonald's you would gain 10 times the intelligence and life experience than you would in your little AP Calc class. You would learn things that really matter in the real world. P.S. We make fun of customers like you when you leave.
#140 - On 11/20/2009 at 1:36pm by shortyme32
some people at mcd's are really smart, my one friend just graduated from med school and no one will hire him as a doctor... he's a sub was sandwich artiest now. my other friend went as high as he could go in math and got a degree for being a physicist or something like that. and he actually works in mcds. no one will hire him.
everyone makes mistakes doing stupid things... this isnt an f your life. it just should be a realization to you that youre self conscious about stupid little things. suck it up.
#143 - On 11/20/2009 at 1:47pm by iloveericmaynor
haha dont worry about it...
i scored a 5 on the AP Calc test when i was 16 and i'm getting my chemical engineering degree right now, and i failed the required math test to waitress at Outback Steakhouse.
#144 - On 11/20/2009 at 1:53pm by hawkeyefan26
YDI for thinking you are better than a McDonalds employee just because you are taking an "advanced" math class. I work at McDonalds, and most of my coworkers are college students like me who probably have taken more advanced math classes than you at uni, so shut up.
So? Counting out change wrong isn't a big deal, and you shouldn't think you're better than someone working at McDonalds.
#148 - On 11/20/2009 at 2:31pm by xx_irish_rose_xx
YDI for being an Emo and a retard and stupid! Geez get a life, maybe that's why you eat at McDonalds.
#151 - On 11/20/2009 at 2:49pm by Mortanious
YDI for being so arrogant.
Everyone makes mistakes, hopefully this will stop you from looking down on other people making similar mistakes.
#152 - On 11/20/2009 at 3:01pm by withmywideeyes
I'm in Algebra 2 and I learned how to do that already. Yes, I do want a cookie.
#155 - On 11/20/2009 at 3:09pm by RAAAWWWWRRRRR
Your current calculus experience means dip squat. Half of my calculus class failed and few of them could do simple arithmetic. To this day, arithmetic is about the only kind of math i can remember.
And don't make fun of McDonald's employees, you bitch. Just b/c someone chooses to work there to earn money doesn't mean they're stupid. I would have worked fast food if I'd had time over the summer.
arrogant brat.
#156 - On 11/20/2009 at 3:11pm by nicholasm0nkay
I'm majoring in Civil Engineering. I've also been working at McDonalds for the past 4 summers. Why? I go to school out of state and it's difficult to get a job anywhere for only 3 months of the year.
Inverse of a logarithm is an exponential, a function simpler than logarithms. And you're only doing this now in AP calc? YDI for both being a moron and trying to make yourself sound smarter than you are, dumbass.
#162 - On 11/20/2009 at 3:46pm by DJ_Chutfield
lol, youre in AB. im in BC. but atleast your teachers name isnt mrs blood
#164 - On 11/20/2009 at 3:58pm by angelicahxc
Dear Stoopid Dood:
There's a difference between book smarts and common fucking sense. Get over it.
You are not special because you are taking AP calc. Talk to me about fucking good at math when you get through abstract algebra.
The counter guy at Micky D's might be a pHD candidate using that for a sociology experiment. I which case, prob/stats is a fave of theirs.
Stop being a fucking stoopid snob and learn how to do some mental math.
Love,
Your math teacher
I have NO IDEA what you said at the end, so i'll definitely trust you know how to count money! I'm not mathematically inclined...
#166 - On 11/20/2009 at 4:56pm by guy_on_the_couch
For all you guys shitting yourself over the last sentence. He said it because it's obviously a fuckload more complicated than simply adding/subtracting and making such an elementary mistake is not acceptable, in his opinion.
i'm in calculus too! derivitives of logs suck. wait til you do integrals
#171 - On 11/20/2009 at 5:19pm by juicyfruit23
Whaa? The derivatives of ln functions is one of the easier parts of the maths course I'm doing... :(
#172 - On 11/20/2009 at 5:19pm by SecsNoises
Logarithm IS the inverse... of an exponential function. You know, the functions that have the EASIEST DERIVATIVES. F'(e^x) = e^x. WOW!
Way to try to sound smart in front of people with math degrees.
Also, derivatives are not computation. The McDonald's dude computes all day. Of course he'd be more skilled at it than you.
#175 - On 11/20/2009 at 5:32pm by MoobyTheCow
Again: YDI for looking down your nose at a service industry worker.
Now chill.
#176 - On 11/20/2009 at 5:33pm by FoundManyLemons
quit trying to impress internet people by using math terms you fucking high schooler
#177 - On 11/20/2009 at 5:33pm by shankzilla
Just because someone is working at McDonald's doesn't mean they're stupid. Maybe they work there to pay for university. Not all of us have to option of mommy and daddy paying for us, some of us work for what we want. For someone who claims to be so smart you're pretty stupid and illogical.
Hey, jackass
I'm a high school student taking fucking calculus 3 and I work at mcdonalds. try doing a surface integral and not judge people, jackass.
#37- i'm just saying. finding the derivative of an inverse logarithm is VERY different than finding the inverse of a logarithm. two completely different problems. and the former is much more complicated.
#184 - On 11/20/2009 at 7:37pm by mcjohnjohn
No. There is no such thing as "much more complicated" when it comes to finding derivatives. That would be like saying multiplication is "much more complicated" than addition.
Derivatives follow a simple set of rules. A well-trained monkey could do them. Dolphins probably could too. There's nothing remotely complicated about the "derivative of an inverse logarithm", whether that means the derivative of an exponential or the derivative of a logarithimic function to the -1 power.
If you think any of that is complicated, you'll never get past integrals. You should stop doing math now and choose something else to spend your time on.
#188 - On 11/20/2009 at 8:00pm by FerrariCake
FYL indeed...because you thought a math error was worthy of fml...and you used calculus as a name drop. This mattered to you, FYL
#185 - On 11/20/2009 at 7:51pm by sumdizzyfoo
The "inverse of a logarithm" is an exponential. The derivative of an exponential is itself.
If it took you longer to learn that than it did to write your FML, that would explain why you also have trouble counting to ten.
#187 - On 11/20/2009 at 7:56pm by FerrariCake
not only do you look like a douche for trying to put down a McDonalds worker, but you look more like a loser trying to put your dumb AP calculus statements in. dont try to justify that someone out there is actually smarter than you. you made a mistake happens all the time. no need to try and make yourself look smart because youre dumb
#191 - On 11/20/2009 at 8:13pm by mudvayne4life24
Meh. I went to uni for astrophys/biophys (switched second year) and I can barely multiply. Certain types of math require no use of numbers until the end ... it's all variable/unit manipulation within formulas until everything is kosher, at which point you just plug in the data and solve. Basic arithmetic has precious little to do with a lot of advanced math. Not a big deal.
#192 - On 11/20/2009 at 8:30pm by Six_and_the_Moon
This is not a FML. Anyone who has every taken advanced calculus knows it is NOT numbers lol....
Second of all, If i was taking orders and counting change all day long, I'd get pretty good at it.. just shows that the guy in mcdonalds isn't a complete moron, if one at all...
are you serious... if you know what you're doing then finding derivatives is a lot easier than subtracting numbers with two decimal places...
#197 - On 11/20/2009 at 10:08pm by PolishPride
excuse me! i am in all of the highest courses that my high school allows- which is ALL college level- and i have a 3.95 gpa but i work at mcdonalds. so thank you very much- just because they dont live off of their parents money doesnt mean they are stupid.
#198 - On 11/20/2009 at 10:17pm by lamepeople
yeah. um. inverse log is an exponent. which is...the easiest derivative ever -_-
#202 - On 11/20/2009 at 11:39pm by cryosk8trboi
YDI.
1. Trying to find ways to show off yourself in FML. Such an attention seeker.
2. Just because someone works at McDonalds doesn't mean that they are not as smart as you. It just means that they haven't got a better job yet. And agreeing with #198, who is a perfect example, just because someone else doesn't live off their parents (like you obviously do) does not mean that they don't have (or won't have in future) a qualification as good as yours.
I hope you don't get a job in future because of your low EQ (getting all emo about making a small mistake and try to make yourself feel better by showing off here) and end up working blue collar all your life.
also, if he means the inverse of the log to be 1/log(x), that's not so simple, and none of you have even mentioned the correct answer to that derivative. He didn't say natural log, so it's not necessarily ln(x). The real answer is actually f'(x)=-1/((ln(x)^2)*x) for f(x)=1/log(x), and I had to pull maple out to do that because I'm lazy and didn't feel like actually doing the nasty little limit involved in doing that.
Actually, now that I look over most of the replies on here, it's pretty clear that most of you don't know anything about math.
And most people who are proficient in math (i.e. professors and math majors) will often commonly use 1/f(x) to be the inverse of f(x). Same with physics professors, engineering professors, in fact I've heard it from yale grads, harvard grads, etc...
#205 - On 11/21/2009 at 2:14am by Le_Pecheur
"also, if he means the inverse of the log to be 1/log(x), that's not so simple, and none of you have even mentioned the correct answer to that derivative. He didn't say natural log, so it's not necessarily ln(x). The real answer is actually f'(x)=-1/((ln(x)^2)*x) for f(x)=1/log(x), and I had to pull maple out to do that because I'm lazy and didn't feel like actually doing the nasty little limit involved in doing that."
You calculated f'(x) using f(x)=1/ln(x) (and then used simple chain rule anyone can do), even though you clearly stated that it was a mistake to assume that he meant log(x) to be ln(x).
If you take log(x) in the base b lets say, you can write it as log(x)=ln(x)/ln(b), then
g(x) =1/(log(x)) =ln(b)/ln(x),
ln(b) doesn't rely on x so g'(x)=ln(b)f'(x), taking f(x)=1/ln(x), which you correctly calculated f'(x)=-1/((ln(x)^2)*x).
All of this of course assuming that's what he meant 1/log(x), and not the inverse of a log function.
#224 - On 11/22/2009 at 9:43am by toffeepop13
Really? Just because he works at McDonald's he's supposed to be stupid?
Him working there is probably why he caught your mistake in the first place.
the only thing remotely interesting is all the idiots cyber-wanking over their superiority in math over the OP; just like you don't care about him being AP calc, similarly nobody gives a hoot over you being the master of the math-universe (or so you think).
Don't sweat it, no real mathematician can do sums in their head. What do you think a calculator is for?
(Now, if you were a physicist, you'd be in trouble.)
#208 - On 11/21/2009 at 3:41am by Arancaytar
Just because you're a calculus student doesn't mean that you are immune to simple math mistakes. After all, the stuff you're learning is all based on simple math, anyway. Not an FML, especially since McDonald's employees are generally assisted by the cash registers.
#212 - On 11/21/2009 at 7:57am by metawarr556
You're an idiot trying to sound smart. The inverse of a logarithm is simply an exponential function. The derivative is easy to find once you have a simple polynomial. Did it ever cross your mind that the McDonald's worker is also an AP student, working to have a little extra money to pay for college?
#213 - On 11/21/2009 at 8:24am by sistine_chapel
wtf, just because he works at mcdonalds, doesnt mean he can't count mister math genius.
#214 - On 11/21/2009 at 8:59am by nataca2
"the inverse of a logarithm"??
are you trying to sound smart or something? cuz the inverse of a logarithm is just an exponential function, and if f(x)=a^x, f'(x)=a^xln(a)
#220 - On 11/21/2009 at 11:52pm by amber_catfish
Have you taken calculus? you take insane logs with like reverse trig functions and have to use really complicated unnecesary ways to solve the problem. Its not fun, but its like beginning calculus
Because McDonald's employees can never take Calculus. Also, Calculus doesn't involve much addition or subtraction, so taking that is completely separate from your ability to count correct change. Which you should know. Have fun in your minimum wage job in 5 years when you graduate college.
#225 - On 11/22/2009 at 10:47am by joltcola13liar
I think its funny how much wrong math I see on here from people trying to be smart, just like OP.
Inverse of Log(x) = Exp(x)
Derivative of Exp(x) = Exp(x)
While the OP is an idiot for mentioning AP Calc I'd also like to add that on the cash registers now they actually tell the employees what the change is, AND exactly how to give it: (as in the employee will literally see "3 quarters, 2 dimes, 4 pennies" or whatever the correct change is).
#226 - On 11/22/2009 at 7:05pm by hellFighter
Dude, I'm in a math class lower than Calc, and we learned how to do that last week, no joke.
By the way, isn't the inverse of a logarithm just an exponent?
Yeah, it is.
#227 - On 11/22/2009 at 9:43pm by I_Have_Issues
The inverse to a logarithm function *to the base e) is an exponential function. Key word is function, so as he didn't state whether he meant the function or or whether he meant log^-1. Seeing as the math required for the first is so easy I would have guessed he meant the latter, but that's just what I'd guess.
Whatever he meant by it he's still a douche, I go out of my way to never do math out loud in front of friends, and whoever, because I know it's so easy to mix up a quick sum and they'd rip into me for getting it wrong. They confuse the concept of studying math and being a human calculator, but whatever: we're all fricken human and make a mistakes.
#230 - On 11/23/2009 at 4:20am by toffeepop13
Meh. I understand. I sometimes have lapses in simple math, too, and I'm taking AP Physics. No big. Some people just like to talk trash over the internet because they have nothing better to do.
EDIT: Oh, but, you shouldn't trash on McDonald's employees. The economy is down the drain, and sometimes it's the only job people can find.
#229 - On 11/23/2009 at 4:19am by cherry_blossom
It's nice to know how little you think of McDonald's employees since your such a big shot AP Calculus student. Wow, high school math? That sounds really hard.
#232 - On 11/23/2009 at 9:54pm by thesecretbill
Unless Op is a super smart super rich sixth grader allowed to run around doing math to save the world--then you need to get over yourself. Until you are doing college math or teaching or calculating blackholes, then you aren't a hot shot.
the same kind of stuff happened to me. derivatives were easy but addition and subtraction were more difficult than it should have been.
you are a tool. get over yourself. that is not an fml moment. maybe you should learn some basic human interaction as opposed to your precious ap calc.
As a McDonald's employee who is currently taking Calculus and Algebra in university, this made me mad. Thanks to all those who have stood up for us so far. We count hundreds of customers change everyday, and since we know you're in a rush, its not embarrassing at all if you make a mistake. What is embarrassing, is when you assume you're smarter than us, and try to prove it by telling us all about what you're learning when, let's face it, the derivative of the inverse of a logarithm sounds fancy and important, but is really pretty basic.
hahahahaha you're gonna be that that fml where he got a full ride scholarship in college but is now working at a fast food place
ok asshole just cuz sum1 works at mccdonalds doesnt mean their not in school, and dirivitaves of inverses and derivatives in general are basic 1st semester pre calc
#239 - On 11/28/2009 at 12:36pm by lalaland_0810
I think people have already ripped this guy enough. Let me just say, one more time, that if you're in high school, you're automatically stupid regardless of what classes you're taking. Realize that, online, there will be more university and graduate students (and just graduates) than high school students, so while AP Calculus might be impressive to your dumb friends, it becomes a laughable matter for the rest of us. It gets even worse when you mention very simple things simply because it sounds cool.
#240 - On 11/28/2009 at 3:03pm by scribble87
well, that's funny considering I work at McDonalds and take honors calculus.
Nice, Asshole. way to stereotype.
#242 - On 11/30/2009 at 1:37pm by Emmaleakathryn
I scored near perfect on the SATs and worked as a cashier in a convenience store. Big deal. Don't assume every McDonald's employee dropped out of high school, geez.
#245 - On 12/05/2009 at 1:01pm by backseat5am
and how the fuck do you know if he's some math major trying to put himself through college by working a that shit job where assholes like you come in and assume that he's retarded just because he works a shit job... shame on you
#247 - On 12/17/2009 at 4:54am by JohntheBaptist
wtf? im in the eighth grade doing Algebra II and learned how to find the derivative of an inverse of a log like a month ago. dumbass.
you think your smart just cause someone that works at mcdonalds corrected you? that's pretty sad. just because they work at mcdonalds doesn't mean they are stupid. that is so messed up of you to say. I don't work at mcdonalds but I know plenty if people that do and they are very smart and it could be jut a job they have in high school.
#249 - On 02/08/2010 at 11:47pm by vill0915
at my school AP just means more hw easier grade and less kids, AP at my school sucks
Physics and Calculus FTW
#248? 1) It's not like he chooses the schools curriculum. He can't decide when to learn what he learns. I'm sure he knows WAY more than you do but just learned a bunch of other stuff before you. 2) Stop making up stories about your life that we all know are fake just so you can feel better about yourself.
