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By Weasel123 / Friday 26 October 2012 07:58 / United States - Anadarko
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  Lunaa94  |  6

Too many negative votes, comment buried. Show the comment

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  gracehi  |  31

15, I had to think about that joke before I understood it. You'll likely be modded or thumbed down to oblivion for it, but it's pretty mild, really.

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  Pleonasm  |  31

Well, obviously we have a vegan in Oklahoma. She's searchin' through yo cupboards, she's snatchin' food, tryin' to chuck 'em. So y'all need to hide yo ribs, hide yo icecream, and hide yo chocolate cause they throwin' out everything in here.

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  Kn0wledge123  |  20

Man, fuck PETA. A bunch of self righteous assholes. I respect anyone who wants to go vegan, but that choice shouldn't be forced on anyone. I would make her pay me back for all the stuff she threw out!

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  evilplatypus  |  33

35 -It says stash, not secret stash. There's a difference. I keep a stash that anyone in my house can pick through and a secret stash of the good sh*t (sour patch kids, cry babies, and the good chocolates).

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  onlychildFTW  |  33

People for Eating Tasty Animals? Because then I'm PETA approved. When you think about it being vegan or vegetarian isn't really great for your body. Humans are omnivores. Made to eat meat and vegetables.

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  DelphiCat  |  17

Actually, being omnivorous doesn't mean we were made to eat both, it's more like we were designed to eat either - essentially, we eat whatever the hell we can get hold of (the three sisters- corn, squash and beans- for example, provide a nutritionally complete diet) However, that does not excuse what OP's flatmate did, it's people like that who give vegans a bad name, because 1.you can bet she won't have worked out a proper nutritious diet (and in all likelihood will in ten years time be going 'i tried to be vegan once, it's bad for you, i was malnourished' no shit sherlock, if you did it on a whim) 2. You can't impose it on other people, you can try to make them see things your way, but taking away all their food? Not the way to do that. And 3. That was just f***ing wasteful. The cow which supplied the ribs is already dead, you're already killed the next cow by creating demand for supply and at that point out of respect for the dead animal you may as well either eat it, or give it to someone who will. Wasting meat is as bad as buying it in the first place.

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  saksxalmo  |  20

But a variety of foods IS healthier, so just because you CAN subsist only on non-meat doesn't mean you should. That said, a well-planned vegan diet can indeed be healthy for many people (not everyone, though.) I have no problem with vegans and vegetarians, but the evolutionary argument always annoys me. Research supports that the reasons for being vegan/vegetarian are personal moral convictions and personal health concerns. You can't argue that people as a whole should be vegan...

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  DelphiCat  |  17

Nutritionally complete is the same as healthy. If all your nutrition comes from plants you can be sure you're getting nothing but goodness, even 'fatty' fruits like avocado and banana are 100x better for you than 'fatty' meats such as bacon which have very little to offer nutrition wise. A properly planned out vegan diet is as healthy as they get. Also, the argument can be made that everyone should be vegan based upon environmental and population concerns. Firstly, plant production is a lot less polluting (CO2, streams, loss of biodiversity bacause land is cleared for grazing etc), secondly, as the basic rule of food chains is energy is lost at each stage of consumption, (if you eat corn you get all the energy, if you eat a cow which ate the corn energy is lost, if you eat a wolf that ate the cow that ate the corn even more energy is wasted) by being primary consumers we would be able to provide food for a lot more people (which as the world's population is increasing, it would be far more sensible)

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  saksxalmo  |  20

#157, you can be "nutritionally complete" if you put enough effort into anything. I'm sure you can find someone on a nutritionally complete insect diet, but if you're going for a natural "what I have access to" approach, as your definition of omnivore suggested, you'd be better off getting both. As for environmental concerns, I counted that under moral convictions. I'm aware that that's a reason that people become vegan/vegetarian. Also, I have seen a lot of contradictory statistics about what kinds of farming are most efficient and the impacts they have on the environment, so I'm sure you can understand my hesitance to just accept your uncited statistics as fact. There are also many arguments to be made in favor of raising various animals, though I can't think of them off the top of my head (things about topsoil, sustainability, unreliability of plants, other climate issues, etc.) I'm sure a quick Google search would show you that this isn't that simple of an issue. Not to mention the fact that farming isn't even the only way to raise/eat animals...

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  DelphiCat  |  17

No, nutritionally complete literally means nutritionally complete, there is no 'better off getting everything' Environmental concerns aren't really personal moral concerns as they effect everyone, they're more like societal moral concerns. Anyway the point is, you said "You can't argue that people as a whole should be vegan" and i'm just proving that you can argue it. I'm not actually going to, because, firstly i can't be arsed, and second, and most importantly, i'm not vegan. Maybe it was a poor choice of words on your part, but you really can argue it. :P

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  peachesncreem  |  21

157 - "the argument can be made that everyone should be vegan based upon environmental and population concerns." There are people in the population that will never be able to even consider being vegan due to dietary needs associated with specific illness. You can argue any point you like, but the fact is, some people really do need to eat meat/meat products.

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  saksxalmo  |  20

#175 - First, exactly what #182 said. You just can't say that *everyone* should be vegetarian or vegan, because it's just not possible for everyone. I didn't misstate what I meant. Second, you ignored my point that meat eating does not necessarily imply animal farming, therefore if you choose not to eat meat because it is associated with animal farming, that does strike me as more of a personal moral concern than a societal one. Especially if you consider the hierarchy of needs-- environmental concerns are much less important than getting proper nutrition with what's available. And "what's available" is important to my point-- like I said, many things can be nutritionally complete if you have access to a range of them, like meat. What I said was that based on the "omnivores eat what is there and don't go out of their way for food" argument that *you* used, it is nutritionally wiser and more efficient to simply eat what is available (i.e. both meat AND vegetables) and ensure more nutritional completeness than to waste time, energy, and resources to obtain a particular combination of non-meat to make yourself nutritionally complete. I never said that nutritionally complete vegan diets were worse than nutritionally complete omnivorous diets, only that naturally, humans are more able to obtain a nutritionally complete diet through eating both than by only eating one. Does this make sense to you?

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  doodlecloud  |  26

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By  Shadow_Phantom  |  26

Ugh. She should really do more research on the negative things PETA does before making any more brash decisions... they're not all "sunshine and daisies yay animals," like they claim to be. FYL hard, OP.

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  gracehi  |  31

There was a beach town where someone got attacked by a shark. PETA tried to put up a billboard picturing a shark with a human leg in its mouth with the caption "Payback." Luckily, all the billboard owners in that town had souls and refused to sell the advertising space to them.

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  Legendoflaw  |  4

Good on the sales people, but I'm sure it was more like "If we sell this space to these crazies, we'll never get a sale again!" Maybe that's just my outlook on the majority of sales people.

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  DelphiCat  |  17

@#78 most of the animals signed over to peta are signed over to be put down, because of illness and infirmity - so it's difficult for them to re home more than 2% as they're really only meant to be providing a dignified death, they're not really a 'shelter'...

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  TheDrifter  |  23

The worst one I've heard was the LA chapter of PETA using a dozen dogs for an ad, then "euthanizing" them with a hammer and dumping them in a garbage can behind the studio. PETA is pretty much the whack jobs giving animal rights activists a bad name.

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  P374RD3D  |  9

Here's my theory: PETA claims to be an animal rights group because people love puppies and kitties, so it's an easy way to get lots of henchmen.

By  ManInTheMachine  |  19

Things like this piss me off to no end. Talk about zero respect. Does your roomate have no self-control? Just because it's in the house doesn't mean she has to eat it. It's like people that complained that McDonalds doesn't have any healthy food choices. Don't fucking eat there if you don't think it's healthy, dammit, and don't throw it out if you don't have to eat it. Sorry for the rant, I'm done.

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  Legendoflaw  |  4

Agrees with you? I think most people feel exactly the same as you, OP and I feel. We just keep our mouths shut because it's either not politically correct, we might hurt their feelings (like they care about ours) or you're looking to get sued... And lose because most judges have empathy toward idiots.

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  bankrupt  |  15

Yes to all of the above. These self-righteous twits get on their high horses and think they have the right to make decisions for the rest of us because they're 'right' and we're 'wrong.' No, it's just a difference of opinion but one person thinks they can force their opinion on the other one. I personally like my place on the food chain. Bring on the steaks!

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  mizuki123  |  8

I hear meat is "bad" for you because of hormones and what not.. But wouldn't veggies and what not be "unhealthy" because of the pesticides and chemicals they use to make them grow? Idk I could be wrong..

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  olpally  |  32

We didn't climb to the top of the food chain to eat carrots... Lol... If someone asks me how I'm helping save the environment... I'm eating the cow... Lol. You're welcome, PETA... Vegetarians are ridiculous.

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olpally- I think you mean IGNORANT vegetarians. Not all vegans and vegetarians impose their views on everyone. I know a good amount of vegans and vegetarians that are completely understanding and respectful of the fact that I am not one. No generalizations, please. Thanks. All I'm saying is that if you don't like it, don't expect everyone to change for you. That goes for people are and are not vegetarians. No partiality.

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#89 what ur talkin about with meat being bad for u with the hormones and stuff I think ur talking about coming from when breeders would put medicine in the animals foods to help them stay healthy because most of the time the meat u buy from Walmart came from cows who grew up in pens all cramped together in their own poo so they aren't in very healthy conditions. But u can buy pasture raised cow meat especially if u buy direct from the buyer that is the best way to go or going to a meat market their meat is also higher quality.. As for the vegetables and pesticides u are supposed to wash the vegetables off before u eat them.. Ya they spray pesticides on them but that is too keep bugs off.. Every single farmer does that tho.. Wash ur vegetables and fruits before consumption and u won't get sick

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  DelphiCat  |  17

Thank you ManInTheMachine! everyone above you was using the same rash generalisations and diet abuse they were complaining about receiving! I'm so glad not everyone tars normal vegetarians/vegans with the crazy-hipster-vegan brush!

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