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What do you mean 'ugh'? If he is in fact in the military he was fighting to protect inconsiderate morons like yourself. In the future, please try to form coherent thoughts before spewing them where others have to see them? Thank you.

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What do you mean 'ugh'? If he is in fact in the military he was fighting to protect inconsiderate morons like yourself. In the future, please try to form coherent thoughts before spewing them where others have to see them? Thank you.

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military combatives is taken seriously though, and it's crazy dangerous when it's a natural instinct or a reaction. people who've come back from deployments aren't completely themselves, expecting a bomb to blow up 300 meters away from them at any minute. :)

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Thank you :).. I'm in the military and i know I've come a long way from the short time I've been in. I may be getting deployed in April 2013, 4 months after i come back from my 6-month long job training.

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Yeah, because I have a lot of veterans in my family, NONE of them would instinctively do that. I just hate it how some people are so rude about veterans and military people, their usually really nice and cool people, like the ones in my family, and my friends dad.

Hate the government and the ones who sent our troops to war, if you want. I don't care. But when it comes to the men and women who are willing to risk their lives for you, I think they deserve your respect and support. You're a civilian. You have no idea what they go through. They signed up to protect this country. When they are ordered to deploy, they are fulfilling their duty. They don't like the death and destruction that comes from war, but they understand that sometimes war is necessary. Until you have served, you have no right to judge them.

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That's like saying "unless you've murdered, you have no buisness judging murderers". Yeah, you sound as stupid as that. Oh, by the way, I am in a country where every male citicen has to go to the army, so yes, I have served.

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if they think that war is necessary and want to risk their lives for their country, thats their business and obviously it should be respected if purely on the basis that its their opinion and theyre entitled to it. however this doesnt mean that the rest of the public (who dont ask them to do this and many of whom oppose it) should be obliged to agree with them just because what theyre doing is dangerous. its their choice and while you have to respect their right to an opinion this doesnt mean condoning what in any other context basically amounts to murder (i know there are some people in the military like medics or aircraft engineers who dont kill people but im not talking about them).

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I agree with you 100%. When you train, you get muscle memory and it just happens. When put into a surprising situation, you do not have time to think about it, you react.

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I'm not really sure what either of you are talking about. I've taken mixed martial arts for 15 years. Anyone experienced in martial arts knows you always incorporate a soft form (like jujitsu) into your practice specifically so you always maintain control. Blaming your actions on muscle memory shows you are inexperienced, lack discipline, and think you're hot stuff when you're not. My guess is the OP is just a high strung coward, YDI

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Guys, that's not trust issues, that's second nature after years of karate or something. I'd probably elbow someone in the street who did that, regardless of affiliations just because its instinct. Not cool.

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