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By Anonymous - / Friday 11 October 2013 11:45 / United States - Monroe
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when I went to get my NYS id I needed my social security card. I needed my id to get my card and my card to get my id. I know it doesn't matter to anyone, but yeah.

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So let me get this straight. It's this difficult to get a passport to go to another country. But hey lets leave the border open and offer free tuition. Welcome to America...aka Obamaland

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Actually it makes sense. To truly "prove" ones existence, or to apply for many official licenses/accounts/etc. you need more than one document of identification. A birth certificate is a valid form of identification but it can be faked. To really prove you exist, you need to provide other forms like a social security number and a drivers license. Showing up in person to resolve the situation wouldn't hurt either.

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16- it doesn't make sense at all. How can you be a citizen if you don't exist? I think its safe to assume they have all other relevant info since they didn't say the issue was missing ID, they said her birth certificate only proves she's a citizen, not that she exists. But if she's been born, and she's a citizen, and they've spoken to her, then she must exist. They're just being dumbasses.

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That doesn't make much sense at all, that you can be a citizen but not exist. Maybe a resident, but a citizen? And also, is your passport office shut down? Some are. You might have to find one to actually go to though, to clear this all up.

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I think by "not exist" they meant the birth certificate might actually belong to a dead person. So it proves they WERE a citizen at one point, but not necessarily any more. When I applied for my passport I needed two pieces of ID and at least one of them had to be a recent photo ID (I used my license).

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59, I know it doesn't sound logical, but the government can't assume a birth certificate proves existence. I'm sure OP has plenty of other forms of ID but maybe they were never officially used through the system. Think about this: criminals who launder money use fake accounts to hide their money. They fake a birth certificate and drivers license to get a bank account but the person they belong to doesn't actually exist. On paper, they pay taxes, own a home, and are a citizen, but don't exist. Ever seen Shawshank Redemption?

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But what happens when your house burns down with all your papers? Even without being careless things like this can happen. I understand the mechanics, but that does not make this less ridiculous or stupid.

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That's why you put important documents in a fire safe or a bank safety deposit box. People saying that you need two pieces of ID are absolutely right. Both a birth certificate and a social security card and proof of residence or something...

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Someone needs to separate these parrots before we have a mimicking cycle. Dammit! Not again! I've been three months mimicking clean. Looks like I'm gonna have to start that expensive rehab all over again.

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yep. They would prove your existence and sue you for back taxes. But is your social security number issued at birth or do you ( or your parents) need to apply for it using the birth certificate? And isn't there a record of your birth where ever they keep those records in your town/city?

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