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By Charon / Friday 9 October 2009 22:11 / United States
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It's kind of your own fault. Don't bring a girl to a family dinner unless you both know for sure you're dating.

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good point...but still, if she didnt have feelings for him, then she shouldve said no. was she that desperate?? wow

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But it's homecoming, she probably couldn't get a better guy to ask her so she just said yes, unless she secretly wanted to get with his bro. Either way it sucks for the OP. _______________________________ www.myspace.com/rapid99

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Heyyy we aren't all bad. You probably should have specified whether you were just friends or if it was a date, so kinda your fault there. I do think that she still shouldn't have flirted with your brother, especially with you right there :/ sorry

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Sunkissed- I don't understand why the Op is upset. Sure he liked the girl, but did he tell her they weren't just friends. For all we know she could have gone over to dinner all the time and have liked the brother. That's what it sounds like, that she didn't have a date and her good friend Op was dateless and there to take her. I do that all the time (go on "dates" with friends, but we discuss it first, so no hard feelings--of both types). You're at fault Op for not specifying you liked

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dw bro, you can take me. I scrub up pretty nice and ive got this hot red number ive been dying to wear out and you might just get lucky if you play your cards right *wink wink*

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Monkey - Good point, feelings can really get hurt if you're not clear about your intentions. And yeah, its just homecomeing. I might not even go to my homecoming so its not that big of a deal

I hope you did something humiliating to her at homecoming. She's a total bitch, forget about her.

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I love the idea, super funny but she is not worth it! Dont spend another second on this girl! channel your energy into other girls!

The dreaded friend zone. I totally feel you. I hate the friend zone! Not much you can do about this relationship, its toast. Shes not a bitch, she is just being a woman. Women like @$$holes. Sorry girls but its true. The guys they like are exciting, and will break girls hearts and your the one who they come crying to wondering why all guys are such jerks! Take it from me, I have had two many years of experience to know that being "nice" only works on about 10% of women, and how many of

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I'd have to disagree. I'm a girl, and I like nice guys. The guy I like is so shy that I had to ask him to homecoming. If he was cocky, I'd kick him to the curb. And I'm not huge. I'm a cross-country runner. :)

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But you have to agree that there is a certain level of shyness where a guy is just a pussy. All guys need a sense of initiative and desire in everything they do, sure it may seem cocky, but we take it as pride and confidence. Does a girl not want to see their guy confident in himself and his abilities? Would you rather want us to define ourselves or rely on someone else? _______________________________ www.myspace.com/rapid99

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Exactly! You just said you "like" nice guys, but are you attracted to them, do they stir passion in you or do they just make good friends? I feel sorry for the guy you asked, because when someone more exciting comes along your gone, and who will you turn to when this new more exciting guy breaks your heart?

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Shut your face. Just because you fail at snagging women doesn't mean it has anything to do with how "nice" you are. It only means you fail at snagging women, or you let yourself get walked on. That's not being nice, that's being a pussyboy. You're right, nobody likes a wimp, but oh wait what's this OH RIGHT IT'S THE THESAURUS /NOT/ LISTING "WIMP" AS A SYNONYM FOR "NICE." You're not nice, you're just a whiny little pussyboy. Oh, and "nice" isn't a synonym f

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You sound a little angry, bitter perhaps? Care to explain why? I was offering this guy some advice from someone who has a lot of experience, and who was once a wimpy "nice guy" but then I looked around and tried to figure out what was going on, why I was not doing well with women and then I changed. I am now pleased with my love life, I have meet a lot of nice girls, I have a lot of fun, and I was not complaining about anything. I would love to hear your story!

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It's been a bad week :c Plus my period lasted longer than usual during this bad week and now that it's over I'm all about the "PMS" - POSTmenstrual syndrome... so yeah... that could explain it I suppose lol I've been tense all day anyway. This is good stress relief I guess? Maybe I should go play Unreal Tournament lol [edit] My point was that you're confusing "nice" with total wimp and "jerk" with strong and independent. Edit limits...

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Quite to the contrary, I am not huge, I have a hard time finding girls who weigh less than I do. I would appreciate you drop the name calling and have a real conversation. By what means am I conveying my accused sexism? I'm also not quite sure how you arrived at the misinformed opinion I am a female genital cleansing device? Please elaborate on your accusations. I'm always looking to improve.

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Though I don't know how "worse" came about, the sexism I think comes from just assuming women only like assholes, and of course the comment "She's not being a bitch, she's just being a woman." Also, I must point out your smartass fail. You used the words "bitch" and "asshole," then got cocky about the meaning of "douchebag" in some crappy attempt to show off. Just so you know, a bitch is a female dog and technically the term is anus. What do f

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I totally agree with DameGrayWulf (except for the part about PMS. Though that can be annoying at times). Not all women like assholes. My boyfriend is the nicest guy you could ever meet and (shock horror) we were friends for about 3 years before we started dating! The friend zone isn't ALWAYS a bad place to be. From what I've seen, most women tend to like nice guys, there are a few that only like assholes, just as I'm sure there are some guys that only like sluts. Each gender has their flaws a

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(Oh of course I can't completely blame it, just that it could explain my grouchiness. I mean all that I say, regardless of tone.) You know, there's a point I forgot to bring up. Friend zone doesn't necessarily mean blue balls for eternity. Show you're a great friend and you could definitely spark interest, at the very least curiosity in how you'd fare as a partner. Now, friend zone could mean afraid to get into a relationship, or even admitting feelings, for fear of RUINING a friendship... bu

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Friend zone does relate to a sense of awkwardness though. For one dating a best friend can potentially be boring, as you already know what to expect and know everything about. Isn't dating a sense of discovery? Perhaps I'm biased but someone in a friend zone is in there for a good reason, at least in my opinion it's because they don't have potential. What do you think on that? ___________________________ www.myspace.com/rapid99

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It's always appreciated for the guy to take the initiative on at least some things in a relationship, but that's not about being a nice guy or not. And the friend zone is a GOOD thing for many girls, because you know the boy well and have already built a firm trust with them. Hell, my boyfriend and I were friends before we fell in love, and he was so shy that I passively forced him to tell me he liked me - which I thought was adorable. Not everyone likes "manly" men, and especially

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There are always new things to discover about people, yes even those you've known for a long time. And there's a difference between platonic and romantic; as in, you know how they are in a friend sense, but you have no idea how they are in a serious relationship sense. When you elevate the relationship, several doors open for potential things to do together, to talk about, etc... You dive deeper into them, to put it flowery. And of course, if you're truly interested in them, it's hard to be bo

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I know that I can't speak for all nice guys in the world, so I'll speak for myself: I get real tired and pissed off when I'm seen as "a weakling, a pushover & a mama's boy" whenever I demonstrate being a gentleman. That's how my parents raised me and that's how I'll raise my son (if I ever have one). Also, I'm frustrated with people saying that all women want "jerks, guys with bad attitudes, etc." Not all women like that and though I'm single now, I hope one day to m

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I think having feelings for a friend would only be awkward if they didn't return them. And there are always new things to learn about people - do you honestly think you know every little thing about your friends? As I'm sure you would know, being in a relationship with someone feels very different to being friends with them. That's still true even if you started out as friends before dating. My boyfriend and I were very close friends before we started dating; there was no awkwardness, and we'

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@Proto: Don't forget, it's always the bad news that is known the first and most. This misconception is merely typical negative propoganda, the kind you see shown by the media all the time. Example: There is one bitch in a group of ten gals, the rest are nice. Who do you think's activities get the most attention? The bitch's. And of course, as per typical of paranoid human nature, people apply the bitch's behaviour to the rest of the girls of the group. It's not just the nice guys that are &quo

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Perhaps I'm stuck in the idea that "dating" is getting to know someone better. After all if the first one doesn't work out then it doesn't continue. Just the same as if a girl says "I went on a date with someone that I found out I can't stand" or what not, to me it just entitles discovery. You discover your feelings for someone, or you discover that you would like to get to know them better or not call them back. As I said I don't date good friends for the pure reason of awkw

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Well, personally, I won't ask to date someone I don't at least feel an inkling of feelings for, or agree to date them for that matter. The latter just results in a cruel conclusion for the other person, because they asked because they DID feel for me. I can't force myself to like someone, so I'm not going to try to. If I don't like them, I'm not going to let them even hold my hand, at least if I did I certainly wouldn't be comfortable with it.

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Yeah well... to all the nice people (male and female) out there, rise up and don't take anymore shit from people who cast you aside. It's time to make a change... forget all the negative propaganda...

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The first guy I fell in love with was "popular" (this was ninth grade mind you--and NO it does not undermine my feelings for him or my intentions to have a good relationship) and rather cocky. I took this for confidence. He was sure of himself and what he wanted. He decided he wanted to date me. I was so overwhelmed by what I viewed as the right type of guy, the Mr. Darcy looks, the Batman darkness, the cockiness. I thought he was confident, well adjusted and "shy." You know

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Yikes... And to think, he probably did that to some other poor gal... God I hate people like that. Such little concern for their supposed significant other... If you really care, you have patience, and you don't force who you love into what they're not ready for, be it sex or just a higher relationship in general. It's disgusting how some people are so selfish in that manner and call it "love."

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