Today, two aggressive police officers appeared at my door informing me that a complaint was filed about my 18 year-old son having "inappropriate relations" with a 16 year-old. We live in England. I had to Google the law to prove to them this was legal. FML
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Fall
Dead leaves, the first cold of the season and an umbrella flipped inside out: fall, the season of grace.
Same thing different taste
Today, my 17-year-old daughter has been sending and receiving videos and pictures of a sexual nature. I just had to wade through a ton of middle-aged dick pics as evidence for the police. FML
Misconstrued
Today, I was checking into a hotel with my boyfriend. A few minutes after we get to our room, the cops show up to our door asking to see some ID from the both of us. The hotel staff had called the cops on us because they thought I was underage and he was going to molest me. I'm 21 and he is 24. FML
Bad seed
Today, and in the past week since became a full-time dad to my 16 year-old son, he's got caught sneaking out at night, lost his virginity, and I had to call the cops because he was caught trying to go two states over to be with said girl. I think he's trying to make me look bad. FML
Today, early in the morning, I got a knock on the door from the police. It seems my son and his friend had been caught throwing toilet paper at a neighbour's house. He's 23. FML
Assumptions
Today, I picked up my 17 year-old daughter after a late night movie in down town and got pulled over by a cop. He questioned us for a solicitation. I told the cop that she was my daughter but he said, "So, you're the daddy?" and laughed. Good to know that my daughter looks like a hoe and me a perv. FML
Who? What?
Today, the police arrived at my door, telling me my child had been caught vandalizing. A boy who looked about 15 hugged me and said, "Hey, mum." I'm only 26 years-old and had never seen this boy in my life. FML
Today, after nearly a year of being stalked, harassed and even terrorized, the police finally found out who my stalker was. It was my 19-year-old son, who thought it would be a fun prank to pull. FML
Reported!
Today, someone called the police on me because one of my students was going home with me every day. The student is my son. FML
Today, I had to explain to my son why it is not okay to slap old women's butts. He's 16. FML
Today, I found out that while my mother-in-law claimed to be babysitting my son, she was actually dropping him off at an unlicensed “day care” in a shady part of town so she could go out. How did I find out? The house was raided by police. FML
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UhHuhHoney 20
You'd be surprised how many cops aren't familiar with laws. Smh
junjunbun 28
I wondered who filed this report, because it's a wonder they were even smart enough to write it from the start. And file a report about the cops, that's not legal of them to do.
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red_head_magee 7
romeo and Juliet law?
dyoy_87 21
No, the legal age of consent in England is 16.
ChopSuey444 20
Which really it should be everywhere. By 16 puberty has already (in nearly everyone) come and gone. You're biologically absolutely ready, and no one other than you should be able to determine if you should or should not act on it.
ChristinePi 36
Puberty is definitely not "gone" by 16. The breasts and penis are still developing into the 20s. Though I do agree 16 is fine for the age of consent.
tj4234 36
#17. In England and Wales if the couple are a similar age, but one is under 16, the Home Office won't prosecute them for it. The law is stricter in Scotland though. I'm also wondering if OP's son could be in a position of trust with the 16 year old. That would make it illegal unless both parties are over 18.
interesting33 37
#31 true, good point. Even if they were both over 18, if OP's son was in a position of trust then it might still be illegal and would certainly be inappropriate
PhoenixChick 26
ChopSuey- the law isn't set because of puberty, but because of mental age. The idea is that a younger person, while able to physically have sex, is not matured enough to make an informed decision about what is best for them long term and is too easily overruled by hormones and an older, persuasive person. The idea is to make it the duty of the "adults" around them not to put them in a position to have to decide in the first place. You wouldn't need an age of consent if it was based on when you CAN have sex. If you aren't old enough to physically do the act, it's doubtful you'd say yes, and then it falls under rape.
doodlecloud 27
ChopSuey - even if you completely ignore the fact that 16 year olds are basically still children and all of the mental and emotional problems surrounding letting children have intimate relationships and potentially have their own children, and focus purely on the physical side...16 is not really ready physically either. Sex leads to babies, and many 16 year olds' bodies are simply not ready for childbirth, even if they can handle the initial sexual act. Much higher rate of infant and mother death, and other complications, when young mothers try to give birth. Yes they can have abortions but that's a difficult emotional act in itself.
opinionatedhuman 13
#49 just because you have sex doesn't automatically mean you should be ready for a baby, plenty of people have sex and don't have babies. In fact, *gasp* there is more sex without someone getting pregnant than people who have sex and get pregnant. imagine that condoms work
brezzyanna 17
That's not true. By 16, giving birth normally isn't an issue. Younger than that it is though
missadell 17
I think what #13 was trying to say was the four year consent law, if they're from America that is. Legal age in the U.S. averages about 16 but it can differ state to state. As long as both people involved are at least 16 it is legal. Say one is 16 and the other 20, to some this would be rape but the two are in the four year gap which means it is legal as long as consent is present to both parties. This law is also referred to as the Romeo and Juliet law due to age difference and the "forbiden nature" of the age difference. It wasn't a joke or a pun, it's simply a different term used to describe the circumstance.
Subcontinent 14
#49 Look I'll be honest I'm just one of those idiot teens, I'm currently seventeen. And I happen to have lost my virginity. Now I have been with my boyfriend for a year and a half now. We know how much we care about each other, we both get on well with each other's families, he has dinner at mine every week. We spend most weekends together and take our schoolwork and hobbies along with us. We're very close, very open with each other and have managed to have open honest conversations about sex, what we like and don't like, all of that. He was ready before me but he waited until I was sure. And when I was, I told him first and then my mum, so she could take me to go on the pill to prevent any complications. Now I'm sure there are plenty of sixteen year olds who aren't ready or mature enough. But I felt that I was and my mother trusted me with that and agreed that my boyfriend was the right person. TLDR: So really, some of us are ready and responsible enough by then.
Xamry14 10
It certainly is an issue. Even 18. A woman's body is 100% mature and ready for childbirth at around 20. Sometimes 23. That doesn't mean a safe birth CANT happen, most of the time a teen mom can give birth with no problems, but that doesn't make it as safe as waiting until your body is ready. A big problem is hormone balance and since you body still hasn't found its zone at 16 a majority of the time, pregnancy and child birth can throw it off even more than normal and it can play havoc with your mental health. This is all stuff my OB and primary care doctors told me. I was pregnant with my daughter at 17 and my son at 23. They said it was one of the reason my two pregnancies were so different.
acmariner99 25
Cops aren't lawyers so they often do not know the law. They could arrest you for an untied shoe if they thought it was illegal.
Bleublancrouge_fml 13
They could TRY. But I'm definitely surprised they went that far, especially considering UK cops are generally pretty chill.
pandemonium307 10
There isn't some force field protecting the innocent from handcuffs....they could temporarily arrest someone and then release them later. or if you're a jerk while being arrested find other charges to file....
ThatHorse 15
Not to mention in most countries it's illegal to resist arrest, even if the arrest is an illegal arrest.
im_an_eejit 1
13 nope In England 16 is the age of consent.
pandemonium307 10
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maybe they meant the inappropriate relations were the girl got in trouble with her parents and decided to tell them he forced himself on her. Wouldn't be the first girl to do that.
prdctnln 10
Yes, a girl crying rape must always be the reason for everything. Rape victims are afraid of accusing their perpetrators precisely because of people like you.
Jackimo98 24
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Victim shaming is wrong but that is always a possibility
prdctnln 10
A very, very unlikely possibility. Reflexively drawing this conclusion and implying that many girls lie about this fits right in with victim-blaming.
bandaidstations 28
I personally know I girl who did this. She goes around town laughing about how she ruined this guy's life. Meanwhile I know people who were ACTUALLY raped that never say a word because of various reasons. I'd like to stomp her.
interesting33 37
#40 can you get a recording of her admitting she made it up and submit it to the the guy's lawyer?
ThatHorse 15
I doubt they'd believe it tbh. That such an uncommon crime (I believe it's something like 15 false reports a year in the U.S., but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) that even if you got a recording the lawyers and judges and juries would all dismiss is as either a faked recording or a coerced/forced recording.
Justy101 23
#75 that must be why hidden wires aren't used in police investigations. Oh wait. They are. A vocal confession on tape that shows from the nature/tone of the conversation that it was not forced would definitely have weight in court.
ThatHorse 15
You've got a point #84 But I'm assuming the person who got the recording wasn't a cop and therefore is generally dismissed by law enforcement and the court system.
dragoongirl90 34
As it is in certain US states.
confused_wandere 26
We're not talking about the US.
Kaoticwolf 17
the US states?
fuckfuckityfuck 16
Each state is the US has it own laws. So the age of consent may be different depending on which state you live in.
brezzyanna 17
@51 Yes. "As it is in certain Unites Sates' states." The sentence makes perfect sense.
JohnTheDonJuan 11
#77, ok douche. Just to shame you for being "that guy" that has to correct everyone. Dragongirl could have been differentiating between US states and US territories.
enginsteve 17
I understood dragongirl perfectly...
willmatrix 6
If it makes you feel any better, American cops don't know the law here, either.
writerchic85 26
I'm assuming 18 is legally an adult in England which means they should have been talking to your son and not you.
Steffi 26
16 is the age of consent in England so the son did nothing wrong.
tj4234 36
#27 The legal age of adulthood in the UK is 16. We have a lower age of adulthood than other countries.
interesting33 37
No i think you still have to be 18 in the UK to be an adult - but you are able to consent to sex at 16.
booze_n_bitches 37
Actually - that is very true. Confidential information like this should not be given to friends/relatives (including parents) without the person's consent. The police were wrong to disclose the allegation to you without permission. You should report that, OP, it's a breach of your son's confidentiality.
tj4234 36
#45. Double checked and you're right. My bad. I was thinking that it was lower based on all the stuff you can legally do at 16. Like move out of home and get married.
Shade1982 21
Nothing in this situation counts as 'confidential information' actually.
interesting33 37
And buy an axe!
psychocunt 20
in America you have to be 18 years old to buy a fish. :(
mauhea 9
To be honest, I'm sorta with the police on this one just in terms of them being thorough with their job. UK law does state that the age of consent is 16. However, it is an offence for anyone 18 or to have relations with anyone under 18 if the older person 'holds a position of trust'. As an example - lets say OP's kid is a tutor or mentor in school or something (seeing as this can be interpreted fairly loosely). In those cases the police have a duty of care to follow the situation up. This turns in to an even more grey area if there's alcohol involved. Basically, there's always the chance that if the younger person decides their not happy, the older person could find themselves getting screwed over even if they're both over the legal age of consent.
DoomedGemini 38
But op had to show that their relationship was legal for the age part if I'm reading this correctly. So they didn't know it was legal for an 18 year old and 16 year old to have sex, they wouldn't realize they have to look into it more.
enternamehere87 7
while you are correct as said by OP he had to show them a google search of the age of consent in the uk to clear the matter up,if it had been a duty of care situation that would not have fixed the situation but it did
taylovezadtr 10
This scares me. Aren't the people we trust to PROTECT the law supposed to know the law?
Shade1982 21
Well, I can understand a cop doesn't know the entire lawbook. I mean, the book is huge and changes all the time. But something like legal age of consent has been the same for quite some time now as far as I know.
imbedderdenu 23
yikes. I see where you're both coming from....