well he's the one that went on the site that GAVE him the viruses. YDI.

agreed, YDI for going to those sites on your work computer

THAT HAPPENED TO ME 2!!
I don't even watch porn and it kept on coming.
you should have pressed ctrl+alt+delete
then it would have logged off then log back on and the virus is cured

You're obviously not a computer person...

shitt happens

shitt spelling.

I'm so glad programmers are getting tired of hearing the statement and are coding viruses for Macs. You do realize it's not because Macs have better virus protection, it's because not as many people use them right? There is no benefit of a Mac-only virus if it won't be transfered to the majority of the computers.

If you really didn't know that, then I pity you. Steve Jobs has done his job in brainwashing you.

The OP works, so macs wouldn't solve the problem and OP fyl

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#13: ummm....ok? You're just crazy, you want people to get viruses just because you can't afford or can't get a mac...or you just don't agree with their choices of getting one. I'm sorry, but you are just a hater!! Stop being a freaking Windows fanboy, and I'm not brainwashed...I use a Mac because it fits my needs, but I have a PC too, and my Mac is far better at not getting viruses, and not because they aren't coded for Macs, but because they in fact do have a great antivirus.

Your an idiot, Macs don't stop you from getting a virus...about 70% of the world uses a PC, about 25% Mac and the other 5% Linux/Unix etc.. (numbers are not perfect but they get the point across).

If I were to make a virus I would make it for PC's if I wanted to do something. Macs are just as easy to make a virus for as a PC. Its just people aren't idiots, so they go for the OS that most people have. There is a reason Windows is on #1 and sure isn't b/c Mac's are better.

What a idiot.

NGM's fanboy statements are amongst the funniest statements I've ever read on this state. I'm gonna have to send you an award for making me actually laugh out loud. "Superior antivirus" lol!!!

Can you name this superior antivirus without googling it? Because last I checked, MacOS didn't come prebundled with antivirus; so go ahead and tell me what superior antivirus is on your computer.

Now watch as he changes his mind and says "No, wait. I meant to say that macs don't crash unlike windows!"

Oh, and for the record, I have almost every OS in existence... I have MSDOS, Windows 3.11, Windows 98, Windows XP Pro (32/64 bit), Windows ME, Windows 2000, Windows Server 2003 (ok, it's old, but who cares), Linspire, Mandrake, Knoppix, Ubuntu, Fedora Core, Mac OS Leopard/Panther/Tiger (not snow leopard though; or whatever it's called), Windows Vista Ultimate (32 bit/64 bit), and... I think that's everything.

Oh wait, I actually have Ubuntu Netbook Remix for my Acer Aspire too.

Ok, now with that said, what's the best OS out of all of them? Windows XP 32 bit. Yes, you can get viruses from time to time, but if you are vigilant and don't download stuff like "Super Virus Remover Pro Awesome Edition 2012" and other crap, you're safe.

So much for "not being able to afford, or can't get" Mac OS X...

And just for the record, this is the truth:

http://www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20060513

@#26 he was referring to the fact that you cant use a mac for anything worthwhile, such as work

#35: well sorry I'm not a fatass 40 year old virgin living under their parent's basement like you who just wastes their life with computers. With everything you have just stated, you have proved that you have absolutely NO life!! And no, I don't change my mind on anything I said.

I'm not going to pay $2000 for this imaginary super anti-virus. Yes the Linux Kernel is safer, but its not immune to viruses. A few tweeks here and there and it becomes as vulnerable as the windows kernel if not more.

It really isn't that hard. So I could build my own PC for $700 get a free antivirus like Avast, no get any viruses actually get some work done and be happy. Where as if I paid $2000 for a mac the only thing I could get done is turning on the computer. The only reason I would ever get a mac is if I was a graphic designer other than that they are Pieces of Sh**.

My favorite quote, this is in reference to a Mac:

No matter how much you polish a piece of sh**, it is still a piece of sh**.

#40 did you ever stop to think that someone with such an extensive collection of operating systems might be a programmer? I don't know any more than you, but I'm guessing if he owns multiple systems, then he at least makes more money than either of us.

I have owned Windows 3.1, Windows 95, 98, 2000, Windows Server 2003 and 2008, Windows XP 32 and 64, Vista Ultimate 32 and 64, and I currently use Windows 7 32 and 64.

I have used Mac OS many times and hated it every single time I've used it. I have done programming for Windows and Mac and hated doing it for mac, its a POS system that will never be half as good as windows.

this was in addition to my other post I forgot to put it :/

Well I don't give a damn on what you say, my mac fits my needs on video editing with Final Cut Express, while stupid Windows has it's built in WMM...you can buy Sony Vegas and some other programs, but I prefer FCE 4. That's the main reason I have a Mac, however, I like how you don't have to scan for viruses on Macs....so I prefer it.

You know my favorite quote in reference to PCs? Ok.

"Difference between a virus and windows?
Viruses rarely fail."

BTW, I don't care anymore. I like my Mac for my personal reasons and you like your PC(s) for your reasons...there!! It wont settle anything for me or you guys to argue because at the end of the day, it wont change anything.

Right it wont change anything

PC's > Macs

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WOW! what a bitch!! That's your opinion, where are your facts that prove that?...there aren't!! Keep arguing, you still wont prove that PCs are better, it's just your f*cking opinion!!....Just because you write it, doesn't make it true. Have fun rescanning for viruses :D

Macs > PCs

LOL not at all nobody even bothers with macs because they aren't a big company

WTF are you talking about!? Macs aren't a company, they are computers....if you mean Apple, then where have you been these past years? Under a rock!?....Have you ever heard of iPods, iPhones, Macs, Macbooks? Apple is a HUGE company!

how can a mac be better than a PC when a mac is a PC?
PC = Personal Computer
lolwut

#63 you have just won the argument!
@OP FYL!

Ok i think all of you windows freaks need to chill. lets see...in the time i've had my ONE mac computer, my dad has had to buy FOUR windows computers. (i'm refraining from calling it a "PC") mac users don't need to buy $60 spyware kits, viruses for mac's are non-existent. Nobody wants to take the time to code a virus for a mac, and so what if its also because more people use windows. either way, WE WIN. we're not wasting hundreds of dollars and worrying about our computers getting a virus. Also, what's even better about the new macs, is that they can run mac AND windows! imagine that! we can buy our $2000 mac computer, and STILL do all of the things your POS windows computer can as well! Only better.

MACS > windows.

Dude..where did she say she wanted people to get viruses? She's right. And, just because you have an excellent anti virus, this doesn't ensure you won't get viruses. If an Anti-virus has not yet found a way to stop a virus, or has not been updated, then your computer won't be protected against that virus. For example, there are so many different types of trojan, that some of them cannot be protected against.

I have a mac, and I got this thing that kept Rickrolling me. The Damn video kept coming up in the banner ads. I eventually got a blocker for firefox, but still.

You have to be completely brain dead to think that there are no viruses for the tens of millions of Mac users because they're in the minority. That's like saying "I won't create a soft drink for teenagers because there are more non-teens in the world."

The argument would be the opposite: everyone on windows uses anti-virus software, so you have to be very good to circumvent that. Meanwhile, on Macs, nobody uses anti-virus software, so it would be very easy to exploit them. Who in their right mind wouldn't want to make money off tens of millions of people, just because they are in the minority?! Are you brain dead?

OS X's infrastructure is sounder, and stronger. You need more user interaction to create meaningful viruses that do significant damage. It's that simple.

And plus, Apple sends out updates very often to keep us more protected from viruses...

Lol what?

Do you think a Mac has better antivirus than a Windows computer does? They both have next to no protection at all in themselves. It is true that hardly no viruses are coded for Macs, that is why they are spared. There's not even anything to discuss.

That said, both Mac and Windows sucks. Too bad Windows has such a huge share on the market right now, so most games and commercial programs are made for Windows. I really don't want to use WINE.

does it matter? the chances of my mac computer getting a virus before a windows computer gets a virus is non-existent.

you get what you pay for! and with macs, you pay for more but you get much better quality.

Ahhh the computer flamewar that's raged on for years. Honestly, they both have advantages and disadvantages. Whichever is better for you and the uses you want it for is your choice and opinion you are entitled too. However, the chances of a Mac getting a virus are slimmer than PC not because of less people using Macs, but that PC's and Windows software are more open. Apple computers and OS are sealed off tight, making Macs actually safer (but not COMPLETELY safe)

ok dude chill out
they're just fucking computers
you don't have to pms just because macs are better
take a chill pill and get a tampon

hardy har har mac vs pc fights. i have a pc and it got a shitload of viruses, and i have an imac and it works fine. but its probably because the pc was $700... and the imac was $1200.

let me make this simply for the mac vs window thing 1 mac=$2000 1 hp laptop $400-$800 i would prefer to have 2 laptops $1600 and you dont need an 60 dollar antivirus but lets say you want it that makes a total
of $1720 and $280 left to spend on what ever the fuck you want so what do you prefer a mac or two windows laptops plus $280 and mac sucks ball becuase most programs are windows only so fuck you lol

NGM_47 should shut the fuck up, theres plenty of good arguments for macs as well as windows pcs, but hes actually making macs sound retarded. if you cant defend your shit properly, DONT SAY ANYTHING. other mac users would feel shame for being put in the same category as u.

@#106
you may be able to have 2 POS windows laptops for less than one mac laptop, but in the long run you'll be spending 2-3 times as much keeping a windows laptop as long as you could keep your one mac laptop.

WOW!! #110: What a bitch!! I tried ending the freaking argument by saying I don't care anymore cause everyone has their own computer based on their needs, but uneducated retards like you kept going and going!! Why don't you shut the fuck up you piece of shit, go die in a hole!! I tried to stop, but you ALL had to keep going...FUCK YOU #110!!

@110: totally agreed.

@NGM_47, i think the only thing that started this flame (and yes, i can't believe i read the whole thing either) is that you implied on one of your first posts that Macs did not get virus' often because they had superior anti-virus software, among other ludicrous and uneducated claims. please check wat you write before you write it

@everyone who wants to comment negatively at my comment (including grammar-nazis): no you.

First of all, I did not say it was a software...(idk where this comment went, it was after my second comment) I said that UNIX based computers such as Macs had a better antivirus (which is not meant as software) and because it is hard to get coded for. Then, I tried to explain that if you like your PC and it fits your needs then it's ok, but then everyone just kept arguing with me so I kept going...if you read it, you would realize I tried to stop.

Let's all agree that the world would have a problem on its hands if Microsoft and Apple were to merge and become evil, k?

Anyone trying to say that Macs are cheaper than other PCs is just lying to themselves. Macs are internally identical to any other PC. OSX doesn't magically make your PC last longer. It's all preference but a $1000 Macbook is only about as powerful as a $700 HP. Decent antivirus software can easily be found for free.

@118, have you ever even owned a mac?!

@117 : become?

@113, you made the opening comment, you openly invited people to give their opinions by trying to tell others what you thought. if you didnt want anyone to disagree you shouldnt have started it in the first place. they have every right to give their opinion too. the thing is, YOU KEPT GOING. thats right YOU did. you chose to reply to each of their comments rather than just shutup. you have nobody to blame but yourself.

oh and im the uneducated one...i believe of the two of us i wasnt the one making ridiculous statements about their operating system and starting arguments i couldnt finish.

Ok, NGM, you are a real dumbass. You overreact to everything, yell, make stupid fantasy claims and run away screaming "I don't care anymore." I don't insult people on the internet very often, but you suck, period.

@124: I knew as soon as I commented that someone was going to say that.

Correction -
Let's all agree that if Microsoft and Apple ever decided to merge, then the world would be in big trouble.

Better? ;D

YOU'RE ALL IDIOTS

Windows has it's faults
MacOS has it's faults
GNU/Linux has it's faults

The only intelligent people in this argument are the programmers who've actually used more than one operating system in their lives. I personally prefer GNU/Linux, but I don't go around spewing claims like "LINUX GETS NO VIRUSES BECAUSE ITS BETTERR!!!!1" or "ONLY PROFESSIONAL PROGRAMMERS USE LINUX!!!!!"

Seriously, that's exactly what you, NGM, are doing. You make all Mac users look like idiots with your unproven claims about this imaginary OS X antivirus.

This goes to all Mac fanboys: YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM HAS FAULTS. DEAL WITH IT.

Well sorry, gosh! And yes, I know I use exclamation points a lot but it doesn't mean I'm yelling. I will admit that my comments got out of hand but you guys kept telling me off when I tried to stop. And yes I kept going, but only because I didn't like that you guys kept going after I had said that we should stop. Like someone mentioned, I did make the first opening comment, however, I didn't want to start a freaking war over this....I admit that my "superior antivirus" thing got out of hand (even though I never said superior antivirus, I said better antivirus) but you guys took it too far. So yes, I admit I was wrong, but I still like my Mac....Happy now?

ah. #35. wouldn't it have been cheaper to have bought a mac in the first place instead of buying all the crappy windows programs? and seriously macs are meant for creative people....not people who make dragons sculptures out of peanut butter in there parents basement.

#151, you amuse me.

@151

What? Pretty sure I've never done that.

Anyway, I use Windows because it's inexpensive, it works with what I need it to (especially when it comes to my Blackberry, RIM still hasn't released software for Mac), it's compatible with my work computers, and costs less than half of what a Mac does.

I'm no fanboy. I have an iPod, and my HTPC uses MythTV, a Linux distro.

Um, you do realise that you can get viruses anywhere, right?

Well, he is talking about a fake anti-spyware program "that cluttered the screen". Those are typically distributed via banner-ads - you need to be stupid enough to be fooled by them and explicitly allow the program to install. Who hosts dubious banner ads like these? Not reputable web sites, for sure - so yes, in all likelihood he was visiting porn sites. I don't think that's morally reprehensible, but it isn't really necessary to do that on a work laptop.

In general: if you are using a computer as part of your job, it's your responsibility to learn the basics of computer security. If you are unable to do so on your own, then take a class. How many car mechanics do you know who can't operate a socket wrench? You need to know the tools of your trade, too.

To clear this up before the comments get out of hand, Macs are not immune to viruses. UNIX based operating systems are more secure than Windows, and that includes Apple's OSX, but it also includes every distribution of Linux. However protecting a Windows machine from infection is very easy. All you have to do is install decent anti-virus software and avoid shady websites. Even though the pop-ups were pornographic, that doesn't mean that the virus was obtained from a pornographic website.

I agree. I use Fedora on my desktop, but Windows XP on my laptop because of school. There are a good deal of good antivirus and firewall software for windows that can be found FREE. So you don't have to spend more money to protect a computer running Windows. I have had my laptop for three years now. I have never gotten a virus, never had a BSOD, and have never had it crash on me. People who have those problems just have no idea wtf they're doing.

Are you excluding the single ones that randomly pop up on certain sites? That are not pornographic at all?

My son got that same one on his system (I think it was called "SpyCrush"). It doesn't crush spyware, it IS spyware.

I second the info for MalwareBytes. It TOTALLY ROX!!!!

I'm pretty sure that violates some laws concerning fair business practises.

What is this bullshit about "you can't afford a mac".
I drive a goddamn Mercedes and I use WINDOWS because I hate the Mac OS as well as their hardware.

Mac is NOT inherently more secure than windows and if you knew jack shit about computers this would be evident to you. "Apple" is a company, not an antivirus, they wouldn't be able to do anything to stop viral attacks on their platform- if coders targeted macs. The only reason macs get less viral infections is because there are a LOT more viruses that target Windows.

As annoying mac users get more common, this will change.

So many people are quick to jump on the "you hate it because you can't afford it" boat. Inflated prices aside, Apple does not possess magical technology that allows them to create software that can block 100% of all viruses without fail. Many Mac owners are under the false impression that their computer is somehow immune to infection, so if someone decided to program several viruses for OSX, they would not have a hard time finding easy targets. OSX is only more secure because of UNIX coding and smaller market share.

wow. chill out man. and driving a mercedes doesn't mean anything...it could be a cheap 15 year old piece of shit. besides, Mercedes' are for stuck up, pompous, fat-headed men with no personality who just buy a car for the badge.

#36

Ugh, I thought I'd never see the day I'd defend Apple...

Ok, there are a few problems with your post. Apple is not an antivirus company, yes, but OS manufacturers don't need to be — antivirus companies write the antivirus programs. There are Mac OS X viruses, yes, and there will be more; however, given Apple's history and the structure of the OS (Unix's permissions hierarchy makes it more difficult for undercover processes like those that run in Windows to do substantial damage to the computer), viruses are much more difficult to code. Apple also generally seeds updates MUCH quicker than Microsoft does when it comes to its OS, and as such holes are patched quicker.

This is not to mitigate Apple, as they are just as evil as Microsoft (or even worse), but just to shed some light on your post. I am a Mac OS X user (though not a Mac user, but let's not get into that), but only because I've used the operating system long enough to have made a decision. I still practise good, safe habits that Windows users use (and there ARE antivirus systems for OS X — look up ClamXav), and I don't go around priding myself on my use of the OS; I use it because I like it.

Now can we please end this stupid discussion over Mac/PC? It's been played out too many times, and it's just idiotic. Can we just please discuss the OP's FML for gob's sake?

umm yeah i think you forgot that all companies are evil :)

Well it's not a huge leap to get to that assumption. You don't just get a virus for no reason.
The only other way that they could have been infected is if someone else used their laptop/computer and infected it then it's still their fault for given that person their password. Or they inserted some sort of infected media onto the laptop.

Either way though if he had an up to date anti-virus software it would have at least warned him when he got infected.

LMAO

Nobody intentionally downloads viruses, they secretly download themselves! You're the moron for not knowing that.

If you use common sense and pay attention to what you are doing, they do not download themselves. I have never caught a virus yet -- even when I used Windows or OSX. Hell, they have never even seen a virus in the wild for Linux yet.

my parents have had their mac for 7. :)

My 9 year old Dell laptop, 7 year old Dell desktop, 6 year old Powerbook, and collection of Sparc boxes disagree. My 4 year old Terrabox is due to disagree shortly.