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Today, I was writing a huge paper for a class as our last grade. My dog starts scratching himself. He hit the power button on the computer. Nothing was saved. FML

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I agree, your life sucks (29901) - you totally deserved it (24495)

On 05/25/2009 at 3:45pm - misc - by duderboi99 (man) - United States (Florida)

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Ans THAT'S why you should save every 2 seconds... No but that really sucks...

#1 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:38pm by althemaster

A new version of the dog ate my homework, cool :D Still sucks though!

#2 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:38pm by xxmollyxx

YDI for not saving at the beginning but that sucks so FYL

#3 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:39pm by MR_Anderson

ha you should of saved it :... that sucks though like majorly.
im gonna use that excuse next time i have a big paper due :)

#4 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:40pm by xo3velyn

That's ruff dude.

#5 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:40pm by Trebek

YDI for having an itchy dog.

#6 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:40pm by imajinethat

ALWAYS SAVE, YOU IDIOT.

#7 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:42pm by Jasper

so yeah, that sucks...but I guess in the future you'll be more careful about saving, hmm? Kind of dumb on your part not to.

#8 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:42pm by MandM44

No autosave?

#9 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:43pm by abigaill

Awww fuck =/

I had a powercut when I was doing an essay one time

#10 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:43pm by yer_maw

Even if your computer gets shut down, it automatically backs it up on the system...reopen the program and it's there... FYL for not knowing that

#11 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:43pm by mu_tiger2006

i'm pretty sure it autosaves lol.

#12 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:44pm by tianshi

Sucks for sure!
But when you've experienced it one time, you'll learn that you have to save every 1 minute..
It's a great habit to have.

#13 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:44pm by Pirate_argh

Agree with #11 and #12. Autosave. And how does a dog hit a power button? They're not beveled. You have to literally take you finger and stick it in there... whoa, inadvertently made a sexual innuendo.

#14 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:45pm by Kamazar

Start rewriting it now rather than posting your sob story here.

#11 - Not all programs have autosave

#14 - Not all power buttons are beveled? It isn't like ALL power button are the same! Wtf are you thinking? There isn't one generic computer design. Also, random shit happens I am sure that a dog can press a power button.

#15 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:46pm by sathoro

YDI. You have to learn to save very often. Especially when it is such an important paper.

#17 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:46pm by Parkbench

hahahh #5 just made my day!!!

#18 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:47pm by sseger79

That's why you compulsively press control S every 5 seconds. In fact, if you were using Windows it would ask you if you wanted to restart, so YDI even more for using a Mac.

#19 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:47pm by Kyothine

YDI, you should set it to auto-save every couple of minutes.
But that does suck.

#20 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:47pm by burrito_supreme

#5: Oh puh-lease. :D

#21 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:47pm by shiie

Yeah...it should autosave. Just reopen your word processor. It may not all be there, but at least there will be something. I wish the same applied to Final Cut Pro :/

#22 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:48pm by dyingstart

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#23 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:48pm by ghettohunta

Its possible to set word up so it auto-saves.... noob! YDI

#24 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:48pm by Tehalon

And wait, doesn't windows (I know macs for sure do) ask you to save your work before shutting off?

#25 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:49pm by Kamazar

#19 - you sound like a complete douche. when you press the power button on a mac it asks you what you want to do unless you turn that option off (you can turn it off on Windows also). Also, don't think that the only operating systems are Mac OS X and some form of Windows. ever heard of Linux or many others?

#26 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:50pm by sathoro

#11: something like this happened to me, and nothing of my document was saved..
Apparently its an option you need to change, or something?

#27 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:50pm by Pirate_argh

u can deffinately get that back... but if u can.. THAT SUCKS... i would want to die.

#28 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:51pm by n1125

YDI, learn to save
FYL, because it's your last grade

#29 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:51pm by smashitup

WOOF WOOF ZING!

#30 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:52pm by ZING_MASTER

aahh that sucks in the worst way- I remember that happened to me one time, then I got super-paranoid about losing my work. It happens, I hope your new one is going to be better than your last. all the best!

#31 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:52pm by Carla_E

YDI for not saving every now and then.

#32 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:53pm by AngryC4t

#19 - who said they were using a Mac? i use one. hitting the power button doesn't make it turn off either.

#33 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:53pm by smashitup

WOOF WOOF ZING!

#34 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:53pm by ZING_MASTER

Wow, it could be the power button for a power strip, which is quite easy for anyone to hit, is not beveled and instantly turns off all devices connected to said strip without asking you if you want to. My username is, and always will be, correct.

#35 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:55pm by EveryoneIsDumb

YDI for not saving, retard.

#36 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:58pm by JackR1104

Sucks for you. I save it every-so often to prevent that from happening.

#37 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:58pm by Sevenfold

As a recent college graduate who wrote many, many papers over the past 4.5 years, while I do feel some sympathy toward your situation, this is still a YDI.

I mean as it is, Word 2003 does (or is at least supposed to) autosave your paper every like 10 or 20 minutes or something, so it should be recoverable...but even if it doesn't, if you're writing a very large paper, you should be saving every few pages or so, just in case.

You poor bastard, but in the end, it's your own fault.

#38 - On 05/25/2009 at 5:59pm by thejoz

Auto-save. Learn to love it.

#39 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:00pm by doctorskully

That's why you save your work after every sentence or two you type. It's become a reflex for me. It sucks, but shit happens.

#40 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:02pm by milkradio

Why would anyone design a computer to shut down at a touch? Usually you have to hold them down for 5-10 seconds don't you? To keep exactly that from happening? I'd say anyone who designs that kind of power button should probably not be working with computers... If its a switch then maybe... but if computers even still have those they're usually hidden in the back aren't they?

#41 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:03pm by kingbeau

sucks so much! But you should save it every few sentences or so.

#42 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:05pm by scorpioserpent

Always ALWAYS save as soon as you start the word project- I think every student has suffered the misfortune of losing a paper that was not saved.

#43 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:05pm by illeyad

Wow, and just like that your computer turned off? I thought you usually had to hold down the button for a couple of seconds.
That sucks but you deserved it. I'm sure you've heard this same story numerous times. Maybe you should save every once in a while next time.

#44 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:06pm by nuclear

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH I hate that so much! I feel your pain. D:

#45 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:08pm by Niqi

You should've been saving as you went along. But still, sucks for you.

#46 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:08pm by AnneFTW

i'm finding this one hard to believe..
but if it's true, you should definitely learn to save things like every 2 minutes.

#47 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:09pm by betwixt

YDI for not saving. But FYL cause that sucks.

@#44: When I hit my computer's power button it restarts. So does my mom's laptop and my aunt's computer.

#48 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:09pm by AuriPantz

I'm pretty sure you learned your lesson.
Don't have your dog in the room when on the computer.
And save every minute of something.

#49 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:09pm by AliciaContreras

lmfao #6.

but yeah, save every two seconds! and its weird that your auto-save didn't kick in. :l

#50 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:10pm by jennikins

If you're on a Mac and not using Word for Mac, download SaveCircle. It's freeware (you can find it on freemacware.com) and you can set it to auto-save your documents in any programme so shit like this doesn't happen.

#52 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:11pm by thequeenofscots

Did anyone consider the fact that the computer was probably hooked up to a power strip and the dog turned the power strip off? no need to to poke and hold the "off" button and no warning.

#53 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:14pm by Okazaki

YDI it's just common sense to save like every 5 to 10 mins.
Especially when you have the power cord/bar in reach of young children, angry parents, or pets.

#54 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:14pm by NickelPhosphate

The paper can't have been that big, or you would have saved at least some of it. Even the n00biest person knows to save occasionally, and if it really was a huge paper you would have probably written it over a day or two rather than in one go, and so saved when you turned off the computer to sleep. So I can only assume you lost half a page of introduction, or your 'huge paper' was in reality only 3 or 4 pages long.

#55 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:16pm by paperfox

time to put that dog to sleep..PERMANENTLY

#56 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:16pm by rallets

YDI for not saving. Isn't there autosave? And you can't really blame your dog, what does he know?

#57 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:16pm by 1221121

sorry that sucks.

#58 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:17pm by Eumie11

It doesn't even have to be the power bar's switch. If it's a tower & the dog hit the power supply's switch in the back of the box just sit back & say , "Bye-bye."

#59 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:20pm by totalnutjob

Ever heard of a laptop? Yeah... There's a reason to why I've never bought anything but a laptop. Can use it anywhere, can use it without power in the house and can easily be transported to school and back home.

#60 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:21pm by Nothingtown

Well if you had Mac it would have asked you if you wanted to save it before shutting down :P
But that still sucks :(

#61 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:24pm by NGM_KID

no autosave?

#62 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:25pm by likeewtfzoya

well depending on what program you use, I think the program itself can show recent documents you have worked on like microsoft word even if you didn't save it to the desktop I believe...

#63 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:25pm by Huevo

Isn't there a recovery feature? Usually when my pc shuts down suddenly and I didnt save it, my work is recovered when I go into MS Word.

#64 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:26pm by simplyswt

ctrl+s=save. press it ever couple of lines, as a novel writter, i know how important it is. also, doesn't the computer have auto recover? i mean, that really sucks but, i guess you learned the hard way.

#65 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:26pm by z_x_c_v_b_n_m

Weren't you doing it on Microsoft word or something of the sort? Because, if so, there's autosave. If not, you're a bit idiotic -Not- to use it. : D
And this has happened to me before. It sucks hard.

#66 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:27pm by iBeRandom

and THATS why you don't have your computer on the floor, where the dog can reach it.

#67 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:29pm by Marii

MS Word has an autosave function to it. If you saved nothing anywhere, it's usually locaed on your home folder. Like in \Documents\Your Username\.doc. Check that out.

#68 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:30pm by NorfolkDude

doesn't Microsoft Word autosave stuff? and then when you open word again, it'll show up as a recovered document?

#69 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:31pm by paintergirl12

I do believe YDI for not saving it after working so hard on it... CRTL + S.

#70 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:32pm by rainyday1010

you do know that most word processors if it closes suddenly will reopen EVERYTHING you have even if you didnt save

#71 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:33pm by chaosleader0

you are a fucking homo for posting complaints on this website!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#72 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:37pm by creeptastic11

usually computers re-load anything that closed suddenly.
it's called recovering :D
i hope you live recovers from its fuckedupness.
Haha

#73 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:38pm by itsLozz

ur stupid cuz u dont press ctrl + s every several seconds!

#74 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:39pm by ander3w

how difficult is it to press save after every paragraph?! "click", there, it's saved!

#72, shut the eff up. that's kind of the point of FML.

#75 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:39pm by heygirlheyyyyy

HOLY FRIGGEN CRAP!!
THAT SUCKS BIG FAT MONKEY BALLS!!
sorry dude...

#76 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:39pm by lalaland94

a lot of word processors have a crash protected save built in that lasts about an hour after you restart... that really sucks but if it was truly that important you would have at least part of it done and saved in sections over the last week or so... you totally deserved it :/

#77 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:40pm by Kaylia22

wow dosnt that suck you should have saved my teachers always tell my class that when we write an asingment

#78 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:44pm by shaner12

Your a fucking dumbass for not saving your work regularly.

#79 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:44pm by NoMercy

make him sit there whn you retype it in fact use his paws

#80 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:44pm by unkinged44

This sounds sort of fake. If he just hit the button it won't turn off straight away, and it will probably not turn off until you answer the prompt window "do you want to save this before exiting?" or whatever.
Sounds a bit fishy =/

#81 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:47pm by Demon_Squirtle

Um, they poster could be talking about the power button on a power strip for a desktop. The power strip for my family's desktop is under the desk and the dog we watch sometimes likes to lay under the desk when someone is at the computer. It's very possible that something like that happened.

#82 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:48pm by senorita_z

So you finished the entire lengthy paper without thinking to save? Really? Yeah, YDI.

#83 - On 05/25/2009 at 6:49pm by lavabeast

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#85 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:00pm by mimimi

YDI for not periodically saving

#86 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:08pm by louisianagrrrrl

the dog deleted my homework!!

(see if any teachers believe that one:D)

#87 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:09pm by kbbe48

Thats why you should always save your stuff every couple of minutes! YDI

#88 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:17pm by Chazlol

ohhhhh i feel bad fo you
from now on start saving after a couple
sentences [:

#89 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:18pm by samsamxx0

Either turn on auto-save or get in the habit of hitting Ctrl + S every time your train of thought ends.

#90 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:20pm by MoobyTheCow

YDI, YDI, a thousand times YDI.

#91 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:21pm by VioletStrange

This is a lie. No matter what computer you're using, unless it was made before 1999, anything being written in a word processor is automatically saved to your memory along with anything else you were doing when it shut down.

#92 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:22pm by MrZach

YDI if it is even real.

#93 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:24pm by LikelyYourFake

I agree with #92. If you turn off the computer and turn it back on, the word processor program will ask if you want to recover it. It might not be to where you were exactly, but it would have most of it still on the computer.

YDI because if this really was an important paper, you would have been saving it every time you paused to think or look something up.

#94 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:25pm by onigiriqueen

on top of the auto-save comments, if you hit the power button while you have a program open that you can edit with (such as Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel and other things), it will ask you ARE YOU SURE..... so either... you hit the wrong button after your dog hit the power button (you idiot) or your lying (go get a life. then post the stories here). Either way. FYL.

#95 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:27pm by Mugen

#81- not so. If you hold the power button, the computer will just shut off. When your computer freezes, how the hell would you get a prompting to shut it off when you hit the power button?! Thought so.

It's amazing how little people know about computers! And I'm just a regular user, too. Sad.

#96 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:27pm by onigiriqueen

AIIGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!


no! This sucks!

#97 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:28pm by Knollmania

#81 if you HOLD it. I said hit it. BIG difference. The dog probably didn't hold it if it's viciously scratching itself.
Don't say I know little about computers when you know little about reading.

#98 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:31pm by Demon_Squirtle

There is only one thing that can be definitively said here: YDI for not saving.

That said, there are a _lot_ of stupid people commenting today who apparently don't know anything about computers and/or think every computer is set up exactly like theirs.

Not every program autosaves, for example. Sure, Microsoft Word and Open Office both do, but I don't use either of those. Ever. They both suck. Plus, we don't even know what kind of paper it is. If it's at all mathematical, I'll cry if OP was using one of those. My chosen editor doesn't autosave. Thanks to a decent saving practice, this has never been an issue.

Not every power button is configured to send the shutdown signal, and power button behavior freely configurable on your computer. I, for one, prefer to keep my power button to send the power off signal instead of the shutdown signal. Further, there's the switch on the power supply and the surge protector the OP is using if ey has any intelligence whatsoever. Plus there may be a restart button on the computer. Mine, for example, automatically powers down the computer and repowers it, for use when really bad things happen.

I'd say totally believable, but still, how stupid do you have to be to get an appreciable amount done and not save?

#99 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:37pm by zargon

#92 & 94 = FAIL

I have a DELL and its a 2001, and it doesnt save it. What now?

#100 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:40pm by iDontFail_xD

Murphy's Law!!!!

#101 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:41pm by meliese

thatsss why you're supposed to save it every few seconds... =P
i've lost sooo many papers because of that. well now you know =] lol

#102 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:42pm by epicfailLOL123

#92 is a complete moron who is trying to sound like he knows what he is talking about. I could name several applications that do not auto-save your shit because you are too lazy but I won't bother

all of you idiots who are saying "but Microsoft Word autosaves!!!!' yes, it does. but guess what? MICROSOFT WORD IS A WASTE OF MONEY AND THEIR ARE MANY OTHER KINDS OF APPLICATIONS SO DON'T BE A CLOSE-MINDED PRICK THINK "oh they are lying or just stupid because it autosaved" BECAUSE MAYBE IT DIDN'T!

#103 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:44pm by sathoro

YDI for not saving, your computer could have just as easily crashed.

#104 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:46pm by mello_love

2 things.

1. my microsoft word does NOT autosave

2. why the hell are you on this website when you should be rewriting your paper?

#105 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:47pm by sockergurl916

#6 LMAO.

#106 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:48pm by Tsukasa

YDI for not saving often.

#107 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:50pm by Charley_5054

I save every second no matter what. I add anything I need to save it. I don't trust my computer.

#108 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:50pm by 24788

I modded this one. :D

That sucks. Try to get into a habit of saving every 10 minutes or so.
Then situations like this won't happen.
FYL. D:

To computer and Word Processor arguers - Computers are complex and hard to figure out. Since the OP has not given us any info about the type of computer or what word processor they used, let's not waste space arguing about it. Unless someone here KNOWS the OP and what kind of computer s/he has. If so, please help settle this quarrel.

#109 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:51pm by Rawrasaur

I haven't heard this kinf of story since I was in high school.

You should save from now on.

=X

#110 - On 05/25/2009 at 7:56pm by jSOPURE

you wouldve deserved it if it was like a power outage

not saving = sloppy habits, for that 1/2 YDI

however the way that you lost it was totally random so fuck ur dog but FYL too.

but thats what saves are for, random shit like this! sorry man !

#111 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:00pm by THISISAMERICA

This is like, such a last decade problem. x_x

#112 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:01pm by JonReb

Another reason you should save. You totally deserve it.

#113 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:03pm by cheese1756

Lol how old is your computer? 14 years old?

Everyone knows you have to hold the Power Button for at least 3 seconds to forcefully shut it down.

#114 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:03pm by koda

haha, this totally happened to me and i was going to put it up but i read this, only mine happened when a fat mexican tore out the power cable with her backpack.

#115 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:03pm by mejubebe

For all of you calling me a retard. Learn how to use a computer. It's really simple. Now i never said anything auto-saves, i said it is saved in the memory, Find your RAM cache and you have ur paper.

#116 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:07pm by MrZach

this is why it gets drilled into your head to save CONSTANTLY

#117 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:07pm by x0xcarolinex0x

..........I don't believe this, First of all my computer is from 2000 and it auto saves. So lets look at it in a different view, maybe it didn't autosave, BUT on/off button to the computer FOR ALL COMPUTERS! don't just turn off at once, u have to hold the button for a couple of secs. So you story is full of holes and next time plz don't make something up so dumb.
P.S. Computer off/on buttons r either in the back of the computer (if so y was he there?) and also it would be very difficult for one of his/her claws to actually press the button!

#118 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:09pm by redheadfreak929

Koda: Are you an idiot? There ARE brand new computers that can be turned off by a single, quick press of the power button. Most computers don't, but, there ARE computers that still do this. Please, don't open your trap if you don't know what you're talking about. It was the biggest pain in the ass when I was dating my ex - Even if you barely bumped that power button his computer would turn his computer right off and it would make him SO mad.


Hey, OP- If you have a bad habit of forgetting to save often, get OpenOffice (openoffice.org). (That is unless anyone else knows of something better, excluding Microsoft Word) it's basically a freeware version of Microsoft Word. It's not perfect, for instance it's really hard to make custom tables, but, it has an autosave feature and a recovery option just in case something like that happens. I feel for you dude - It sucks to lose a lot of work to some bullshit or another. FYL/YDI - Get a program that autosaves or make it a habit to manually save more often. Good luck on that paper.

#120 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:11pm by neurorot

if you used word, it should have autorecovery.

#121 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:12pm by Figureskater_15

i know for a fact that word has autorecovery. it saves ur stuff automatically if something should happen that the program gets shut down automatically...ur fine.

#122 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:20pm by LuvPink

u most likely made this crappy story up, because most computers nowadays have autosave. ydi

#123 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:21pm by rhombus

Yea you can prolly recover it if your not retarded...

#124 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:24pm by MyAchilles

You should pretty much just ALT-F4 your life.

#125 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:24pm by andydawg8891

That sucks and YDI at the same time. That's why you save every few minutes.

#126 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:25pm by Joe2794

If you hadn't saved yet, you couldn't have been that far in... right? Is there recovery like there is on a Mac?

#127 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:26pm by justmeagirl

HAHAHA number 5!

#128 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:27pm by iluvu21396

aaaand that's why you compulsively save every time you finish a sentence. And if it's anything major, you email it to yourself at least every few hours, so you have backups. Writing a lot without saving = YDI

#129 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:29pm by paranoidkiwie

Save early and often. Hopefully you'll learn from this experience.

#130 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:32pm by DoctorManhattan

No offence....buh dats pretty stupid...lol

#131 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:32pm by partygirlxxxx

[Please see #53]

And, good luck finishing your paper :]

#132 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:32pm by justaquietghost

Lesson learnt. Good luck with the rewrite, hope it's not fatal. X

#133 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:45pm by DeathBoy

hey 99. I'm pretty sure your running MICROSOFT ON THAT DELL. All dell did was make the outer shell or sub contracted it. Microsoft is the OS, not the outer computer. You failed twice. Alt-F4 from your life as someone said previously. I can send you some rope or weights if you need them.

If you're going to lie about something, at least have the decency to know what your lying about.

#134 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:51pm by Mugen

that truely sucks, i save every few sentences.. you will now to

#135 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:52pm by curlybrunette

I just love how everyone here thinks that their computer/word processor is the same computer/word processor that everyone else in the world uses. It's quite amusing. *ahem 121, 122, and the other*

FYI: not everyone uses the same computer as you and not everyone uses microsoft word. I know that must be a shocker. I know the program I use doesn't autosave.

And, like numerous other people have said - the OP probably meant the dog stepped on the switch to her power strip, which would instantly shut off the computer.

Op - that really, really sucks. I did something similar once. Sometimes you just have to learn things the hard way. Hopefully you remember a lot of what you wrote.

#136 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:53pm by Glam

Write a post-it note to yourself and stick it on your computer... "SAVE YOUR WORK!" I hope you have time to re-write the paper and submit it.

#137 - On 05/25/2009 at 8:56pm by jengen

what makes the OP stupid by not saving? Smartasses. Sorry to hear it, it's happened to me before and the autosave didn't recover much. Even more annoying is when you finish something, spend hours correcting and editing then lose the work because of a power cut etc and then can't remember what you had and hadn't done and have to start over again!

#138 - On 05/25/2009 at 9:07pm by tornado87

so unrealistic. come on.

#139 - On 05/25/2009 at 9:09pm by CRZYCHiKAx0x

WHO THE FUCK CARESSSSSSS

#140 - On 05/25/2009 at 9:13pm by dankadank

YDI - every one knows by now to save, at least once every 15 minutes, minimum.

I once had a problem when I started college with a bad box of floppies. I had lost work from a computer dying before, so i decided to save to the floppy first. Took me three times to realize that the reason my computer immediately shut down, erasing my work, was due to a problem with the floppy I was trying to save the work too

#141 - On 05/25/2009 at 9:17pm by cxal

ah man, that's worse than "my dog ate my homework" sux!

#142 - On 05/25/2009 at 9:19pm by megs8907

Yes save frequently.

I had something similar happen to me at college - someone accidently hit the "emergency off" switch that powers off all the monitors... and apparently the computer tower I was using was plugged into that circuit.... 2 hours of work down the drain. I'd been saving the work to the desktop, but the computers were programmed to wipe out all changed data upon logging off or rebooting... after that, I made a point of working only off a thumb drive, using frequent saves.

#143 - On 05/25/2009 at 9:21pm by were_giraffe

Gotta remember to keep saving that shit, bra!

#144 - On 05/25/2009 at 9:27pm by Powahouse

FYL, but i also have to say YDI because you didn't save. i hit the save button after like every little change lol.

#145 - On 05/25/2009 at 9:37pm by dan81892

that's why you should get a mac
the power button is on the back of the monitor so no button to be pushed by your careless dog

#146 - On 05/25/2009 at 9:43pm by whatnow2859

that sucks, I've had that happen to me but my nephews were the one to push the button
you need to save very often or use Microsoft word, they auto save it for you.

#147 - On 05/25/2009 at 9:46pm by melyssa

These days the newest versions have the recovery option. It temporarily saves your file so you can retrieve it...hope you were in such luck.

#148 - On 05/25/2009 at 9:48pm by frootloop25

The exact same thing happened to me two weeks ago. I was editing a music video i was making for my broadcast/journalism class and it had already been extremely stressful and i had already had one emotional breakdown over it. So as i was getting everything under control my dog gets under my computer desk and laid directly on the power strip disconnecting everything. I was thankful for the auto save every ten minutes on movie maker

#149 - On 05/25/2009 at 9:50pm by lighttts

Sorry, but YDI for not saving :| everyone should know by now to save frequently.

#150 - On 05/25/2009 at 9:56pm by liquidskyfire

Dude i feel you that happened to me twice!

#151 - On 05/25/2009 at 9:57pm by KoreanGuy

YDI big time.

#152 - On 05/25/2009 at 9:58pm by Me27

First off to all those saying your an idiot for not saving... I think the OP realizes that now, we've all had something similar happen and then you start saving every 4 seconds after it happens. We all make mistakes and it fuckin' sucks. Something similar has happened several times (don't think I've ever lost everything though).
To all those talking about auto-save and auto-recover - I agree with the others... you're dumb... not every program has it.
BTW my old computer used to have a power and reset button that would turn off instantly
#125 - Hilarious! But I think the OP should probably ALT-F4 the dog's life

#153 - On 05/25/2009 at 10:09pm by toodrunc2no

LMAOOO... awww, that sucks! but why don't you SAVE your work?

#154 - On 05/25/2009 at 10:15pm by randomgirl13

next time, you should try saving every five minutes.

#155 - On 05/25/2009 at 10:19pm by Amandaisdreaming

Always "save as" as soon as you open a document, then either rely on autosave or just do what I do and obsessively hit ctrl-S every time you stop to think.

#156 - On 05/25/2009 at 10:28pm by Hadley

That sucks but you should have saved. Sorry though.. so yeah, FYL AND YDI

#157 - On 05/25/2009 at 10:30pm by love15

Doubt this one.

First of all, most word processing programs autosave.

Second, most computer power buttons require you to hold it until the power goes off. Unless you're working on a PC circa 1995, I highly doubt your dog pressed and held the power button.

#158 - On 05/25/2009 at 10:31pm by Altephor

two things can prevent this again.

one-save often(Ctrl+S are your friend)
two-change the settings on your computer so the power button doesn't turn it off but instead puts it in stand by.

there you go problem solved.

#159 - On 05/25/2009 at 10:42pm by dcubed121

@ #157- it's easy to go into BIOS and change what happens when you hit your computer's power button. I haven't even touched those settings on my PC, but it will still start the normal shutdown procedure when I push it without holding it (and holding it for 5 seconds will shut it down immediately).

I'm a big proponent of saving often, but every normal human being gets "on a roll" and forgets to save when they have good ideas flowing quickly.

#160 - On 05/25/2009 at 10:42pm by heywood

Were you more than 2 words into it?

#161 - On 05/25/2009 at 10:46pm by Some___Guy

Ouch, sucks dude, but I have to say YDI. That's why you save every 10-15 minutes. I mean really, what's harder than pressing the button that looks like a floppy disk? Shoot, I know people who are even more paranoid and do it every 2 minutes.

But I'm not going to lie about that having happened to me before. When you get into the groove, it's hard to just stop. Ah well, LOL to your unintended recreation of the old "dog ate my homework" excuse.

#162 - On 05/25/2009 at 10:57pm by Glitchman

wouldn't your dog have to hold the power button steadily for 5 seconds for it to turn off?

#163 - On 05/25/2009 at 11:03pm by shaPOW

well you should have saved!

#164 - On 05/25/2009 at 11:05pm by beauty88

CTRL+S every 30 seconds.

#165 - On 05/25/2009 at 11:09pm by zombieman000

Fuck venetian blinds!

#166 - On 05/25/2009 at 11:11pm by blueworld

I found out that my keyboard had an immediate shutdown/power key on it (ie, no "are you sure?) the first time my cat stepped on it. Didn't lose anything, but it can be absurdly easy to accidentally power off your computer.

#167 - On 05/25/2009 at 11:27pm by moholy

why do people put YDI? Ok yea yu should save often when writing a big paper incase of accidents but it's not his fault his dog got too close to the laptop... FYL...

#168 - On 05/25/2009 at 11:30pm by YungMarlon23

dude u need 2 save often. thats so ur fault & it wuz so stupid of u 2 do that. everybody knows 2 save often

#169 - On 05/25/2009 at 11:33pm by fml1358

That sucks, so I chose FYL. But ALWAYS save often and back that shit up. I have an external hard drive too just in case my computer crashes.

#170 - On 05/25/2009 at 11:40pm by coffeennicotine

normally the computer recovers the things that weren't saved when the computer shuts down unexpectedly

#171 - On 05/26/2009 at 12:00am by propelks09

Lies Lies Lies... dogs aren't that smart.

#172 - On 05/26/2009 at 12:04am by BigRedMan15

Well that sucks.

#173 - On 05/26/2009 at 12:13am by l0v3t0h8

For all those that claim that MS Word sucks and that there are plenty of "good" applications that don't autosave: apparently, not *that* good. I consider MS Word to be the bare minimum when it comes to standards. And apparently there's a lot of software out there that doesn't even come up to par with Word.

A tip if you use that kind of software: switch to something that *does* offer an autorecover function.

#174 - On 05/26/2009 at 12:15am by diddlbiker

Some of you people are retarded.

I've been using Word and Works for over 10 years, and its ALWAYS auto-saved.

"But he/she might not use word"
True, but Word is pretty much the standard now. If s/he isn't using Word, then it's something they chose. They are not a computer novice, so they are FUCKING RETARDED for not knowing to auto-save.

"But they might use a mac"
well then they deserved it. Kidding. But yeah, you Mac people are supposed to be hip and smart.

Someone said Ever hear of a thing called Linux?
Listen, if someone used Linux, there is NO WAY IN HELL that they would forget to save. Linux people are smart. This wouldn't happen to them.

But yeah, new versions of windows (7, for instance) won't shut down until you close all apps, or force a shutdown. And, 90 percent of computers have to have the power button held. AND the OP said "the power button on the computer" not "on the powerstrip" you retards.

#175 - On 05/26/2009 at 12:22am by upandb

This is why you should always save so often while writing something. Especially something important as that.
#173: Whoa, since when was Word auto-save? Eh, might be the newest version. I need to get my hands on that.

#177 - On 05/26/2009 at 12:39am by Roxas

@#172:
It's funny that you consider MS Word the "bare minimum" since it's a bloated program with *way* too many features that few people, if any, ever use. Like, seriously, more than 90% of the features are used by fewer than 10% of the people.

Since I actually know how to *save* my work, I never considered autorecover that big of a deal. I'll gladly take something smaller, lighter, faster, and easier that does what I need over Word any day. And, in fact, I do. I use vim for all of my editing purposes. Granted, it also autorecovers, but it's not a feature I _ever_ need, and I essentially turn it off.

#178 - On 05/26/2009 at 12:41am by zargon

@#173: I think most of the people who were saying these things were making the point that this wasn't necessarily a fake FML and that it was actually a YDI for the reasons you pointed out: OP had to be pretty retarded.

Besides, you're assuming that the OP set up the system all by emself, which isn't really a good assumption. I know a lot of people who have Ubuntu systems that other people set up for them, and they would probably not be saving every ten minutes, either.

And, even if 90% of computers require you to hold the power button, the point is that it's stupid to call fake on this FML. And, again, the power button behavior is _configurable_, so you really can't try to say how other peoples' computers work.

#179 - On 05/26/2009 at 12:43am by zargon

For people saying that there are many diff programs and some don't autosave...

Get one that does, wtf is the problem?

OP, FYL dude. Srry

#180 - On 05/26/2009 at 1:00am by lilcuti3pi389

Probably said before but usually a computer needs the power button to be pressed for 4 or 5 whole seconds before it shuts down... and yes you should always save in between...

#181 - On 05/26/2009 at 1:04am by Mnemic

That sucks...this is why I save my papers after every paragraph.

#182 - On 05/26/2009 at 1:11am by hollister7304

Your a fucking dumbass for not saving regularly

#183 - On 05/26/2009 at 1:15am by NoMercy

oh fk,

im sorry dude

#184 - On 05/26/2009 at 1:15am by jeneveere

Ctrl S!

#185 - On 05/26/2009 at 1:28am by RK5000

I always save the second I have to think of more to write. Or If I finish a page, and normally after I finish a paragraph. YDI

#186 - On 05/26/2009 at 1:37am by dtp882

This happened to me, too, except it was an online exam that I couldn't re-enter, and my cat walked onto my laptop and hit the power button. :( I frantically e-mailed the professor saying that I'd accidentally hit the power button and closed the exam. All better now! So yeah, FYL, not mine.

#187 - On 05/26/2009 at 1:43am by xflora

oh ffs this is fake. If you don't use Word (since it didn't autosave), you are computer literate enough to have downloaded a word processor and obviously would save often. If you post on FML, you are computr literate enough to save. The poster is either lying or is exaggerating about losing the first sentence since it doesn't say that he began working substantially on the paper. Why do the mods even approve stuff like this? It's not funny. It's just stupid as hell. No one wants to hear about something who lost their work even if it were true, which it isn't. Completely boring. This site didn't get popular because of dumb stories of people not saving their papers.

#188 - On 05/26/2009 at 1:57am by aaa12321

And NO ONE loses long papers because of power button issues like this. You might lose a 2-paragraph response paper your first time using a computer in elementary school, but by the time you are doing senior papers for hs you probably save automatically without thinking about it. BS

#189 - On 05/26/2009 at 2:02am by aaa12321

Theres a Good dog
At least Your dog now knows a new trick:)

#190 - On 05/26/2009 at 2:57am by cocodaloco

Wow! Your teacher will say "u might as well just say that the dog ate it".

#191 - On 05/26/2009 at 3:17am by st87

You must have an old ass computer if simply touching the power button turns it off... most computers/laptops today have the built in feature where in order to do a hard-shutdown you must hold the button for 3-5 seconds...

Also, another reason why Cats > Dogs :) and why having your computer on a desk != having it on the floor.
( != means 'does not equal' for those less techno savvy people )

#192 - On 05/26/2009 at 3:32am by XGCHappyFace

A sort of duel "your life sucks" and "YDI"

It's a shit situation, for sure, but you should always, ALWAYS save often.

At least you still had the general idea of everything you typed in your head? And now you know to keep your dog away from the computer.

#193 - On 05/26/2009 at 3:40am by YLS

#102; Only morons pay for software! (except games, the game industrie must live on) Piratebay w00t!

#194 - On 05/26/2009 at 4:08am by Tehalon

Lol, excuse. Backup, backup, backup. Nobody should type 2 pages without saving.

#195 - On 05/26/2009 at 5:00am by Rabyd

idiot :P
normally when that happens to my computer, and i havent saved it, it never gets lost bcause the pc restarts from where it shut down, therefore nothing is lost :D
ur computer sucks dude

#196 - On 05/26/2009 at 5:10am by the_holy_one

And THAT'S why you should always save every once in a while.

#197 - On 05/26/2009 at 6:36am by dyld921

F2.

The button is right fucking there and it takes half a second for the paper to save. You deserve every lost second of time.

#198 - On 05/26/2009 at 7:04am by Gregorus_Prime

Umm, auto-recovery? What are you using, Windows '97?

#199 - On 05/26/2009 at 7:09am by ffffffffffmylife

YDI for one reason.... You should made backups several times!
I know it sucks, but next time I know you won't forget it! ;)

#200 - On 05/26/2009 at 7:34am by Cileitz

Don't worry, mate. It couldn't have been that long of a paper if you forgot to save and did it all in one sitting.

#201 - On 05/26/2009 at 7:47am by Monado

Power buttons have to be held in for a few seconds to shutdown. Unless in the case that your dog flipped the switch at the mains. Then fyl.

#202 - On 05/26/2009 at 7:55am by ChelseaChops

Whenever you hit enter, hit save.



......


Sucks for you!

#203 - On 05/26/2009 at 7:58am by twilax101

Get the hell over it. turn your computer back on. go back into the program and it will have a recent memory of most of the stuff you did

#204 - On 05/26/2009 at 8:18am by punanni

If you've ever written a paper before, you should know to either turn on autosave or use the magical Ctrl+S combo ever couple of minutes.

#205 - On 05/26/2009 at 9:02am by Proxgotsthafia

you are a dumbfuck

#206 - On 05/26/2009 at 9:20am by shotgunner2

I've got no sympathy for you. You don't write an entire paper, or article without saving one. You're a moron for doing that, and then not promptly making a save file. Why do you think the first thing you are taught when using a word processing software is to create a save file? You can also set the stuff up to save every few minutes. It's not the dogs fault, it's yours for being ill-prepared.

#207 - On 05/26/2009 at 9:56am by DankJemo

That cant be right. If you're using a word processor, those usually automatically save to the last available copy after forced shutdown.

Unless its something like Word 98 or something.

#208 - On 05/26/2009 at 11:59am by MechEngineer

That wouldn't happen on a Mac. It just goes to sleep. I agree, though, that does suck, but why didn't you save along the way? It's your last grade! You should know by now to save along the way, but yeah I know exactly how you feel. On my final paper for a class, the power went out… My paper lost a ton of progress. Needless to say, I was pretty pissed.

#209 - On 05/26/2009 at 12:04pm by djyankees02

Did any of you guys think that maybe the dog turned the computer off by hitting the power button on the surge protector?

If that were so, there would not be time for the computer to do anything such as backup or auto-save.

#210 - On 05/26/2009 at 12:06pm by TotallyAwesome

First rule of doing ANYTHING on a computer: Save early, save often.

Also, what the hell kind of computer do you have anyway? I don't think I've ever seen any computer that won't shut off unless you hold down the power button for a few seconds - something which seems incredibly unlikely to happen just from your dog scratching himself.

#212 - On 05/26/2009 at 12:22pm by l33tm0nk3y

What kinda computer has a kill switch? I have to hold mine for 10 seconds to do a manual shutdown. If I just try to shut down normally there are several steps required and all my programs prompt me to save....

Then again...it's an Macbook Pro.

#213 - On 05/26/2009 at 12:31pm by schnitzcopter

Name one decent word processing application released in the last 5 years that doesn't have autosave. Unless you were writing it in notepad or something, in which case you probably would've gotten a shit grade on it anyway.

For any given paper I'll likely have about 5 different files open. One for notes, one showing the planned outline, one for citations, one for whatever else (likely a spreadsheet or something), and the main paper. Once the other four are complete and saved, the actual paper writing takes about 10 minutes a page. Lern2rite.

By the way, all you anti microsoft sheeple, MSOffice is a damn fine program and the best office suite out there. I have openoffice on my home PC, and it's more unstable than grouphug writers. Anyway I call fake.

#214 - On 05/26/2009 at 12:51pm by Draq

The last computer I saw that turned off the second you hit the power button was made in the 90s.

#215 - On 05/26/2009 at 1:13pm by cthulhu1138

ctrl + S, early and often, lesson learned.

Oh and the guy above me, if you unplug the power cord or turn off the surge protector the computer will turn off right away. Oh and on PC's there's a switch on the back of the power supply that will kill power right away.

#216 - On 05/26/2009 at 2:44pm by SomeGuy1234

WTF...ppl are right it auto saves dumbass, just reopen it. And how the hell does your dog hit the power button? For most computers you have to HOLD it down and then it turns off.. I don't believe this one..but many ppl are fackin dumbasses...

#217 - On 05/26/2009 at 3:17pm by _FYL_

Protip: Configure your APM (advanced power managment) to put your computer on standby. That way no lost work if you accidently hit the power button.

#218 - On 05/26/2009 at 3:55pm by ObadiahtheSlim

Its suppose to autosave when ur comp shuts off, everything is automatically turned on even websites

#219 - On 05/26/2009 at 4:07pm by Fy0urlife

sucks for you, but have you never been taught to save every 10-15 minutes incase anything happens. and if you're using mircosoft word, it'll recover it for you.

#220 - On 05/26/2009 at 4:45pm by fdsaeiilatan

YDI for not saving

#221 - On 05/26/2009 at 5:50pm by FueledbyPanic32

That really sucks, but it's not the brightest thing to NOT save. Seriously, weren't you told over and over in school to save your work every few minutes? Shouldn't your computer recover it anyways? You must have an ancient computer or something.

#222 - On 05/26/2009 at 6:20pm by LibbyBee

haha you need some k-9 advantix!!!

#223 - On 05/26/2009 at 6:21pm by clams_rule0002

wow haha ylsuksss

#224 - On 05/26/2009 at 6:40pm by erijgio89248

i always save my papers every five minutes or at least after each page i type, it doesn't take long, ctrl-s or file-save. anyways your an idiot number 11 if the power is cut without it being shut down properly nothing is backed up, the RAM is instantly cleared! so your essay was erased which sucks, and yeah get your dog some frontline or something.

#225 - On 05/26/2009 at 6:49pm by Scotticus117

That sucks, but ALWAYS save, save like every 2 seconds, also since you didn't have it saved that means you were doing the whole thing the night before, always a bad idea

#226 - On 05/26/2009 at 7:30pm by theclash06013

I usually save every half-a-paragraph because I'm paranoid, lol. But whatever. My best friend's nephew likes to come up and press the power button constantly. It is SO SO SO SO SO annoying! Ugh. I get annoyed even thinking about it. lmfao

#227 - On 05/26/2009 at 7:52pm by Angry_Dad

i would shoot my dog if he ever did that to me.

#228 - On 05/26/2009 at 8:18pm by thefinalgamer

My dog locked me out of my car for a few hours over the weekend. I know how you feel.

#229 - On 05/26/2009 at 8:20pm by moose91894

I WOUD HAVE KILLED THAT FUCKING DOG... MAN FYL

#230 - On 05/26/2009 at 8:47pm by AngelicDreamer

YDI, now you'll remember to save HUGE documents

#231 - On 05/26/2009 at 9:13pm by _pk_

How many computers nowadays turn off when you hit the power button? When Windows XP was released every computer that was able to use it was required to have a second way of entering into sleep mode. Same with Energy Star machines. I'd say it was your fault for not updating your machine. Even the less superior computers (Macs) have a "Are you sure feature"?

#232 - On 05/26/2009 at 9:21pm by Jimmy

YDI for not saving.

#233 - On 05/26/2009 at 10:15pm by B00

autosave? but that does suck. i would beat my dog for it if that happened to me

#234 - On 05/26/2009 at 10:23pm by cantth1nk0fnam3

Microsoft word has always kept things saved automatically in case the computer shuts down spontaneously

#235 - On 05/26/2009 at 10:57pm by peopleplz2008

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

#236 - On 05/26/2009 at 11:53pm by tomFTW

LOL! #5 FUCKIN ROCKS!!

#237 - On 05/27/2009 at 6:04pm by Fluffiness

Hah that sucks... but seriously dude, YDI for not saving your work.
I suppose you learned a valuable lesson, especially if you already had a lot done. XD
But why don't you have auto-recovery?

#238 - On 05/27/2009 at 7:41pm by lologirl419

You were writing a "huge paper" but hadn't saved once? YDI...

P.S. Learn the ways of the save Jedi: Ctrl+S every 30 seconds.

#239 - On 05/27/2009 at 11:27pm by djbon2112

Lesson learned the hard way: Save every ten minutes.

#240 - On 05/28/2009 at 12:16am by olive_you

I still don't think he "learned" anything. People are complaining that he didn't save often but apparently he didn't save once on this large papers which is hard to believe. If the dog hit the power button, it may have started the shutdown sequence (to just kill it you usually hold) in which case a notification would ask you sure...there are programs open etc. This FML doesn't make any sense and couldnt' have happened.

#241 - On 05/28/2009 at 4:20am by aaa12321

YDI. Thats why you save after every line* or when making a fix*. If you're writing a paper all in one go without any thinking pauses save every 30secs or so. If you need thinking pauses, save on every pause, if you need to think after every sentences, save there.

It's little hard of course if your program takes like 5-10 seconds to save, but it's better than losing the whole work. Totally YDI.

*when you're coding at least.

#242 - On 05/28/2009 at 4:57am by Asdas

Save early and often. YDI, no questions asked.

#243 - On 05/28/2009 at 7:59am by insomniacdude

Duuude. That totally sucks. FYL and YDI for not saving.

#244 - On 05/28/2009 at 6:54pm by lostxsouls

newer versions of Microsoft word autosave stuff like that :P

#245 - On 05/28/2009 at 9:27pm by gdbg12

Oh wow. You really should save it every so often, but that sucks. I wonder if your teacher would believe that excuse. Probably too close to the dog ate my homework :p

#246 - On 05/30/2009 at 12:22am by hellosies

YDI, you should be saving important papers like that often.

#247 - On 05/31/2009 at 3:31pm by chippa

you should to save frequently

#248 - On 05/31/2009 at 6:52pm by Gotz_No_Love

MS Word and most other word processors have an autosave feature. The next time you open the program, a recovery list should pop up, and your paper should be one of the choices.

#249 - On 05/31/2009 at 7:58pm by nickenzi

That's an fml and ydi for not saveing

#250 - On 06/03/2009 at 2:41pm by edobean

My little sister did that to me..
Except she wasn't scratching herself..
And she did it on purpose =|

#251 - On 06/05/2009 at 6:22pm by Choochii

This is clearly made up. In order to turn off a computer with the power button, you have to hold it down for a period of time. My dog is smart, but she's not that smart!

#252 - On 06/08/2009 at 2:52pm by crysania

No timed backup?

#253 - On 06/11/2009 at 11:25pm by Jonny64

Yeah, you should have saved every once in a while, but sorry to hear that. Did you manage to finish it anyway?

#254 - On 06/14/2009 at 10:57pm by Luneth101

haha, myspace is way better than that sheeeeet!!

#255 - On 06/18/2009 at 11:11pm by kennington

#9 no1 has an auto save

#256 - On 06/25/2009 at 8:12pm by pikL3bOi

This is why you save frequently xP

#257 - On 09/27/2009 at 8:37pm by Vetrina

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