Today, I met this really nice guy at the mall and he gave me his number. Later that night, I texted him. We got on the subject of food, and I started talking about how much I love veal. He responded with saying I was supporting animal murder, that I should go to hell and lose his number. FML

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Well, I mean, it's not the most politically correct meat on the planet. It seems he may be a vegetarian.
You should probably lose his number anyway. I mean, you met him at the mall.

Wow, well if hes going to be like that for not being vegan, not worth your time. I'm vegetarian myself but I realize it's not for everyone.

Ask him to join PETA.

People Eating Tasty Animals. :D

o wow i would have to say lose his number

Honestly I can't stand people that eat you alive because you like to eat animals that were once living before blah blah blah. Your life isn't fucked, it's better you're not with some guy that will attack you for liking veal or anything else that ever moved. :)

wow what an ass
aha no wonder hes single

forget about that loser and find a better guy ;]

Haha, sounds like the perfect guy for me.

People who dont eat meat are stupid. Grow up and take whats yours: life. if your ancestors didnt eat meat you wouldnt be standing where you are now. survival of the fittest i say.

You should ask him to take a chill pill. Or is that not vegan friendly?

:(

Good thing you found out sooner rather than later. That he's a prick, not that he's a vegetarian.

Its just a fad.

Well, you are...

Tell him
1) baby seal tastes much better than veal.
2) PETA nut jobs ae as bad as religious fanatics.
3) You are gladly losing his number because he's an ass.
4) Veal is a very healthy food since it hasn't been exposed years of growth hormones and antibiotics.

That's an asshole. It's not a big loss.
By the way, to day I'm planning to cook an osso bucco. I'll have a thought for you.

I thought they legally changed the word from "veal" to "tortured baby cow"?

Either way, he clearly isn't worth to date if he's got such a narrow mind. Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say!

Be happy you got away from him! He sounds like one of those crazy PETA people to me.

nom nom nom.

you deserve it for dating pussies

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#22: We do. Trust me. We do.

You should really be careful, hurry up and get that sand out of your vagina.

Damn, would've been funnier if you two went for lunch and ordered that! Such a loser, his loss!

It's not that she eats meat that necessarily made him angry, it's that she eats VEAL. It's very controversial, even if you aren't a vegetarian. In order to keep the meat soft, baby cows (from birth to 10 months old when they are then slaughtered) are kept isolated and penned in so that they CANNOT move at all. They are taken away from their mother and other cows and they often suffer various ailments from being confined, even in the cleanest of conditions, not to mention the extreme discomfort of NOT being able to move. (This is the case in the US, but it's a little better in the UK.)

That all being said, he could have approached the discussion a little more smoothly, rather than just calling her names. He should have explained why he's against eating veal, so that he could potentially convince her of his p.o.v. Instead, he just came of like a lunatic.

yum i love cow ass #22! and btw, why do you care about animals with a screen name like singer4life666...... queer yet still have a darkside....?

Txt him and tell him "For every animal you don't eat I'm going to eat three."

thankfully it would seem i'm not the only person to agree with him (though there don't seem to be many more than a couple of us). i don't speak out much agianst people eating meat because i'm not one for preaching my lifestyle upon others, which isn't what i'm doing at all.

i'm okay that people decide to eat meat, but when it's a baby animal who hasn't even had the chance to live let alone really walk (because veal apparently is better when it's tender thus limiting mobility is implemented) THAT'S when i have a problem. in essense you're trading a small tasty meal for a baby's life... i still don't see how people can actually do that without having moral and ethical conflicts.

so again, i agree with him and actually give him kudos for being against people eating calves and other infantile animals. sadly i must admit that most people don't even know that veal (as well as baby back ribs) actually come from baby animals :(

#5, you win. 'Nuff said. :D
When can I join?

#25, #28, you have a case of Vaginitis, too?

You should really get that taken care of.

Wow, I wonder what he would have said if he found out you eat SEA KITTENS. PETA is nothing but a bunch of nutjobs and terrorists with a strange sense of superiority. 22, humans are omnivores. We eat animals. Animals also eat animals. It's natural. Go make out with a block of fermented bean curd. So much tastier than bacon, isn't it?

#25 does have a point though, personally i would've been more trying to express my point in a more suttle way than like that, but it wouldn't change my standings on the subject

#22: "I hope someone slaughters you and eats you and your family" ISN'T "a little extreme"?!? Humans have higher thinking skills! We're at the top of the food chain FOR A REASON.

Oh, hey- guess what I had for supper last night? BIG, FAT, JUICY STEAK. Oh, I LOVED it.

And plants move, too. :D

To the OP: I say you go on a bunch of those fortune teller sites that make you give a number to send the fortune to and put his number into them! That was rude of him! ...But, eh... veal? :(

I am not a vegetarian, but torturing food just to eat it doesn't seem right. I'd rather let have it put down a better way.

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I kind of agree with him in a way. I eat meat but you should look up what veal is. I don't agree with it and i won't be around anyone eating it. I don't blame him for getting away right away. Something is against their beliefs and they have no attachment to you as you met them in the mall, and you were text conversationing.

Well he is just a moron then =) The animals wouldn't be alive in the first place if they didn't have a purpose so yeah. Your actually giving them life! (if only for a while, but hey that's better than none)

I'm NOT a vegetarian, but half the comments in this one seem to be from people who have the intelligence of the cows they eat.

Funny how current societal norms have most people freaking out at anyone who makes the slightest discriminatory comment relating to race or sexual orientation, but those same people will spew juvenile insults ("get that sand out of your vagina") whenever an issue comes up that does not have popular acceptance. No doubt those are the same people who rant about how they'd like to kill all "emo" people.

Veal isn't just murder, it's torture.
It's one of the bigger dick moves humans have ever committed against another animal.

It's okay to eat animals sometimes, but keeping them in a cage like that and slaughtering what are essentially babies...

YDI. You're sponsoring douchebaggetry.

#31- thou hath angered me.

it is actually impossible to give a logical explanation of why it is unethical to eat some animals and perfectly acceptable to eat others.
do you know what speciesism is?

and PETA are certainly not the worst group. it's sometimes criticised by the more extreme groups for being too soft!

#22- *likes*- username (peter singer is one contemporary philosopher who is against speciesism) and comment :)
hahaha. i'm not funny.

seriously though... most of you are speciesist bastards.

What I don't get is that the cow is raised just to be killed anyway, so what difference does it make if it's a baby or older. If I was a cow like that, I would rather be killed young, because I'm sure a lot of the "older" cows don't have too great of lives.

22, I do enjoy eating my cow and pig (and chicken and fish) very much, thank you for asking. Oh, and I would suggest not pushing your views on other people, or else you are going to end up like the crazy guy in the FML - all alone.

Oh, and can someone explain to me how it's torture? What they torture baby cows to kill them, but they give the older ones a quick and painless death? I always thought that they killed them both the same way, (hopefully) in a humane way.

I think it's quite ridiculous to say that people who eat veal are murderers and should go to hell. I mean, if you're a vegetarian it's different.

But if you're so committed to animal rights and stuff, then don't eat meat at all.

Screw him, meat is delicious! It's also very good for you :). We were made omnivorous for a reason. We should have both kinds of foods in our diets ideally.

Personally, this is how I see it: If you don't want me to criticize you for not being a Christian like me (which I would NEVER do, to each his own.), don't talk shit to me for eating my delicious burgers.

I'm a vegitrian, but it kinda pisses me off when people are assholes about it.

#44 there's a slight difference between a vegetarian and a "vegitrian"

:)

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To hell with vegetarians, if you ask me.

Hmm. So not only is this guy judgmental, but he's also a hypocrite AND a psycho! You pick winners.

I would have probably kept his number just to stalk-text him every time I ate meat for the next couple weeks. Then again I tend to be an asshole with things like that...but yeah...I love meat so I'd find a way to mess with the guy especially with the response he gave.

"Mmm I'm eating a burger. It tastes so good. Die cow die and get in my belly"

40 - speciesism? Are you fucking joking me? Give me a break. The day a platypus gets a PhD is the day I give up "speciesism." Why don't you just go play Cranium with some water buffalo.

22 - take it easy big tough. Just because most people would eat meat if they had the choice doesn't mean you have to tell their family to get slaughtered and eaten. Why do vegetarians/vegans have to have this stupid sense of superiority? You're no better than anyone else, and yes, as a matter of fact, I really do enjoy eating pig and cows ass. It's fuckin good.

Seriously, I don't care if you're vegan or vegetarian or whatever you call yourselves nowadays, but when you throw a retarded label on someone because they eat meat (which is totally natural by the way, other animals eat meat as well. Why don't you get on those animals' cases?) or have some sort of heightened sense of superiority because all you eat is fake meat and veggies, then fuck off. I'm not rubbing it in your face that I'm eating a nice tasty double bacon cheeseburger, so how about you stop flaming on me because you're eating a leafy salad.

Oh yeah, P.S. ... I had steak for supper tonight and it was god damned delicious.

Better off without him. Text him a photo of yourself eating it. Asshole. You can eat whatever the hell you want!

*give's the guy the finger*

jackoff !

(your not missing out girl)

#38: I have nothing against emo kids. But you should really get that sand out of your vagina.

Fuck, does NOBODY watch South Park? There was an episode about veal, Stan managed to change the word legally from "veal" to "tortured baby cow" and in the process developed Vaginitis, where pussies started to grow all along his body?

You all fucking suck. Animals are animals, we eat them, sometimes they eat us. You all need to grow up.

Especially you, #38. Get a sense of humor. Fuck.

Hey, don't be sad. Not all vegetarians are retards!
Go Vegan!

Sounds like you've dodged a bullet there, the guy is lame.

If everyone was vegan like that...yea. Overpopulation, disease, overpraise, maybe even worship! Natural humans were meant to hunt. And just feel your third tooth on the top row...its spikey for a reason :P

Double post but whatever. For everyone who is having a go at her for her 'controversial' taste in food.
Are you the kind of person that protests outside abortion clinics and signs petitions against stem cell research? Are you the kind of person that would knock on doors in your neighbourhood handing out free bibles? How about if you see someone shopping in a certain store: would you run up to the cashier's desk and tell everyone not to buy from a store that uses slave labour?

Sure, you might think you're making a difference in your own small way but don't preach to other people about it; it's the most boring thing ever to hear or read. I will reiterate my last statement - you can eat whatever the hell you want. I won't bother you while you're eating your tofu, and I don't expect to be hassled just because I've ordered the veal in a restaurant. It's food. It's cow. It might well be baby cow but these animals are bred purely for us to eat them. They wouldn't even exist.

i love my beef bloody. i stay away from veal though. i don't need to eat a slaughtered calf for a little tenderness.

dear #50,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism
education is the key.

veal is delicious f*** all this hippy bulls*** were on top for a reason. loose that pussies number already

Maybe he was just screwing with you the entire time and was never interested in the first place.

While I agree that this guy from the mall is an ass and not worth being upset over, the people commenting here seem to be missing an important distinction. There's a difference in not approving of veal as a food and being a vegetarian. I know a number of meat-eaters, many of whom believe that vegetarians are all idiots, who refuse to eat veal. They find it cruel to A) kill baby cows and B) give the baby cows a low quality of life before killing them. Not promoting that viewpoint at all... just saying...

#8 - Not all liberals are assholes. I've met politically conservative vegetarians. You have no way of knowing this guy's political leanings. Offensive generalizations not necessary.

OP - You're totally better off without this guy. He handled the situation horribly. He hurts his own cause by being a jerk and looking irrational. FHL

I'm on the guy's side. Veal is disgusting. Knowing that you're eating a calf that's eaten no food it's entire life (at least not real food) seems totally immoral.
I understand eating meat (even though I'm a vegetarian) but ew.

Still, you can eat what you want, it's your life!

I hate PETA with the passion of a thousand burning suns.
Sure, we all love cute little baby animals. But by eating them, we're not exactly the ones who are slicing their throats while shouting "DIE, YOU LITTLE SHIT!" Plus, if we don't buy it, then they're being killed for no reason.
You obviously could argue that if nobody's buying it, then they'd stop being killed. But really, there are way more people in the world that actually like eating healthy, nutritious meat than spend their time petitioning for PETA.
Anyway, if you gave an animal the intelligence of a human, d'you think they'd be all "PROTECT THE HUMANS!"? No, they'd do the smart thing and eat us. Probably alive.

Peace.

Some people are so stupid...

If the animal died, you may as well make the most of it and eat it while it's still good, right? Jesus. Yeah, it might've been bred in captivity or whatever the fuck, but at least it could provide nutrition for the masses after death instead of getting shot and dragged back home for taxidermy. It's life was shit, it'll become shit after we eat it, and hopefully it won't taste like shit. :]

#53- Actually, I did get your reference. Cartman is funny specifically because he's a moron who nobody should take seriously. And the fact that you are quoting 8-year-old cartoon characters to support your argument doesn't exactly disprove my point. I remember the kids back in high school who started using the word Jewish to mean stupid after they saw Cartman do it. Just because a show is funny doesn't mean it has the slightest validity to any real-world situation.

In any case, I also agree that the guy ranting in the original post is showing the exact same intolerance with his overreaction.

This is an fml. FYL, for having to deal with that for the ten seconds you did.

No, I'm not being sarcastic.

62 (roguepenguin), the guy IS a vegetarian. He tells her she's supporting ANIMAL MURDER. You know veal isn't the only meat made of animals, right?

peta suck how can u glorify an animal over a human, dont argue it read the philosophy comparing human and animal minds and u will understand.

also if u look at veal laws there not bad, they dont lock them up anymore and they live longer than lamb, so if u eat lamb and not veal ur a hypocrit.

also that persons a douche for picking on u when KFC and the rest are farrrrr worse...

I don't see why he should care. I eat any meat and my girlfriend's a vegetarian... mostly ;)

#65, your logic is that of a four year old's. you might as well say the same about carrots. shit for brains.

# 59, i liked the link, it was very interesting! But why did you quite it to #50, I think they understand the concept already...

i agree with #1. and don't let anybody change you!

OP, before you lose his number, post it here so we can all spam the hell out of it with animal death stuff.

Its a fact of Life that we eat meat. Its time for him to get over it.

Looks like you dodged a fucking bullet on that one!

YDI for eating veal in the first place.

Not all vegetarians are intolerant and try to push their views on others. I'm a vegetarian because I just don't like meat (I know it's weird, but it's just not my thing). I feel like eating preferences is kinda like religion. Eat (or believe) whatever you want, as long as you don't shove that ideology in other people's faces.

I agree you should lose his number too... not because he's a vegetarian but because he's so intolerant.

Well, you *are* supporting animal murder. Additionally, you are a speciestic racist. That are facts. Here's another one: Deal with the fact that some people don't accept this just because most people are like that. Complaining that some people are so intolerant that they don't accept racism doesn't make it better.

Just imagine this: If you belonged to an alien race for which it were normal to eat dismembered corpses from humans, you would totally do that shit, too. I guess there might be some ethics groups which would argue that the attitude towards other beings should be based on their ability to feel pain, rather than arbitrary biological categorizations. But hey, every species has to have its whiny liberals! It's all about socialization. I'd eat humans too, by the way, but at least I wouldn't have to lie to myself about what horrible thing I'm doing while enjoying a well-served baby. Yummy!

Long story short: If you can't stand it, don't do it.

:/

PS: Cooked human babies humor ;)

http://lobstervaws.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/lobster-comics-its-just-the-air-escaping/

i agree with him

you deserve it.

I hate it when people use the "animals are dumber than us and that's why we eat them." So you are saying we eat anything dumber than us, so should we start eating mentally challenged people and just plain stupid people? Oh and by the way I love meat but veal is sick, it's basically a baby cow that has never even walked in it's life, has had little amounts of food, and has never seen the sun so ya it actually is animal torture.

btw, what makes it acceptable to eat other animals?
what makes animals different from us humans, apart from the fact that they cant speak out for themselves.
they can still feel torture, pain, and death.

youre a loser

Considering veal isn't raised cruelly as it was years ago in most places, it makes this idiot loser you met at the mall look even more stupid.

We are all animals, and we are just fortunate enough to be at the top of the food chain. I hate militant vegans/vegetarians that value another species more than their own while promoting a very unhealthy lifestyle. You are lucky that you found out what a douche this guy is when you did.

You were talking to a guy about veal... oh what a turn on! Gutted though, that does suck a bit.

Veal's a pretty contraversial meat to discuss with someone you only just met and were interested in. obviously you had a bit of bad luck and he feels deeply about it... though from the depth of his reaction, it sounds like it wasn't the biggest of losses.

I'm a vegetarian, btw, and do think he overreacted. I / we choose not to eat meat, but what anyone else does is up to them. Nobody likes being told what to do (particularly what to eat).

At least you found out before you cooked him dinner. =)

And coincidentally, just a few hours ago I read that in Star Wars, Greedo the bounty-hunter (shot by Han Solo in Star Wars IV) was turned into a drink by the barkeeper! Literally!

"Wuher had been working below the cantina on Jabba's perfect drink. Wuher knew he had almost perfected the beverage, but it was slightly lacking. Relying on his exceptional sense of smell, he realised the pheromones Greedo exuded were the final flavour the drink required. [...] he obtained Greedo's corpse and had C2-R4 brew Greedo into the liqueur. Upon tasting, Wuher believed he had finally created Jabba's perfect drink"

Technically, it wasn't even cannibalism because Wuher is a Human and Greedo a Rodian ;)

FUCK ENVIRONMENTALISTS.
LONG LIVE PROGRESS.


thats all i have to say.

think of it this way- if he has such a hissy fit when you eat meat, instead of opting for a reasoned debate about whether its moral or not to eat meat, what was he going to be like in arguments if you had a relationship with him? you're better off without someone so childish

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/food_matters/veal.shtml
Interesting stuff. OP, you're better off without him.

I do wish people would stop assuming all Vegetarians are meat-eater hating nutjobs.

Personally I don't care what others eat, generally don't try to push my feelings on the matter onto others (actually my reasons for being a vegetarian have nothing to do with beliefs on animal welfare/etc anyway), think PETA are media spotlight grabbing loonies the same as most right thinking people seem to, etc.

Sadly you can see it in peoples eyes if it comes up your Vegetarian, there's this slightly hunted "oh god, here we go" look (which usually goes away when I say "I'm not veggie for that reason, couldn't care less what you eat") - so whilst I sympathise with people who've encountered the more loony fringe vegetarians being sick of hearing about it (and rightly so), I'd suggest not retaliating against all vegetarians.

That said, a few practices used in the food industry are somewhat unpleasant though - "being top of the food chain and eating other animals" is not quite the same as some of the practices being used in the food industry, including such things as Battery Farming, Veal, and additives such as Cochineal/Carmine (a red dye made from extracts from insects/beetles) and Gelatine (maybe that's just me though :p). A bit of research into the matter is always interesting (or not if you don't want to put yourself off these foods).

As for the OP, I'm split 66% FML for the inane reaction of the bloke, 33% YDI for perhaps being a little tactless in bringing up a controversial subject with someone just met (though perhaps you didn't realise).

#53 :D

41- Is there really a humane way to kill something?
59- Screen name FTW

Veal > some loser guy

#86 Agree with everything you said!!!

OP I'm glad this guy showed you what a moron he is so early. There's nothing wrong with being vegetarian (I don't personally agree with it, but hey, I'm not going to jam my opinion down other people's throats), but it pisses me off so much when people get really over the top and irrational about it. You're so much better off without him!

#72- I think you have it mixed up. When #59 sent that Speciesism Wikipedia link and quoted it to #50, its because #50 said that he thought speciesism was the stupidest thing he ever heard and thought it had something to do with animals being equal to humans.

I'm a vegetarian- I've always dated meat eaters ( Most of us do.) It's not about forcing our views of "OMG YOU EAT MEAT!!" onto someone... Its the fact that they eat VEAL. I know many meat-eaters who eat everything BUT veal because they know how horrible it is.

The cow is kept in a wooden crate the same size as itself because any exercise would cause MUSCLE gain... and MUSCLE doesn't taste good. The crates are wooden for fear that if they have metal bars the calf will lick them and absorb a little iron.

We are at the top of the food chain for a reason.. We have the ability to reason and think logically. Thats what got us here. If you aren't able to see how inhumane that is then maybe you deserve to be back on the bottom eating algae and pond scum.

#100 ftw.

You're better off without him, I wouldn't be surprised if he's one of those douchebags throwing red paint at people wearing (fake or genuine) fur coats too. There are other, more intelligent ways to tell someone you don't agree with them than damning them to hell and telling them to lose your number.

Alan....I'm waiting
ahaha

couldn't you have just said chicken? it's the safest thing you can go with talking to a vegertarian or not, I guess
everyone knows that the young cattle used for veal don;t even see the light of day.

well maybe you should I to hell. you can eat your innocent baby cow there. I'm disgusted by you.

don't worry. he's just one of those creepy "save the animals" people (im not trying to violate rule 14 here)

"Tesco has phased out imported veal and is stocking UK-reared high-welfare veal. All Waitrose own-label veal is British, from calves raised on a diet of milk, water and roughage, reared in open housing with natural light and straw bedding"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/food_matters/veal.shtml

Join the modern world folks. Most places don't raise veal in boxes anymore. It's bad for business.

Well he might have been really annoyed-I'm a vegetarian and I try to tell my friends wuT it's like-I do t push it on them, but I like them to know. You shouldve found out first.

ok the animal is already dead. It's already been killed so what's the big deal if u eat it? If u don't then it's just been killed for no
Reason

I think you have dodged a bullet there, the guy is clearly a fanatic. it's ok to have a different point on that issue, but to discriminate people for that is just douchey.

wow I eat organic farm raised meat but he's going a little over the top

lmao...i went to the mall and got a cute guys number yesterday! thats ironic..
i got it after following him for two hours...but he knew we were so it was funny :)

my friend and i always follow people tho...just this time he happen to turn around
and we talked hahaha weird :)

but yea...we are still talking...un-like you, sorry fyl

People like that are such pricks...

Wow what kind of man defends animal rights over trying to impress a woman? He's weird, you don't want him anyways.

Tee hee! The comments are so fun to read! Three things: one, i think veal is a bit different than regular meat cuz you know its a baby cow! But he waaay overreacted. What an a$$. Two: the comments on here usually turn into an argument. Why is that? Were supposed to be commenting on this persons FML not the vegan stuff and vegitarianism and meat-inism (haha new word i think...) three: i just have to say this: some of these vegan people probably really hate vampires! Especially the Cullens :) (btw: i actually hate twilght so yea) hahaha now im gonna go eat some BACON. and maybe some PORK too YUUUUUM

YDI for liking to eat dead babies - baby cows, yes, but babies nonetheless.

Oh, and #8: these animals are NOT killed humanely 99% of the time. Do your research.

But yeah, that's hardly a turn-on line. He sounds like a whacked-out weirdo.

I admit veal is tasty (and i'm french so i know what is tasty xD)
He's an ass for overreacting that much, if i was him, i'd try to "show you the way" into vegetarism, and try to understand and stuff

i agree with him, but i dont.
meat tastes pretty bad, especially when you think about where it came from.
at the same time, he definitely overreacted and needs to learn that his way isn't the only way.

but veal is nasty...thats a baby cow...its just like eating your friends baby cat.

#115....are you fucking retarded?...How the fuck is she an idiot for eating veal? Oh, just because its a baby cow, WHO THE FUCK CARES...and you put it in the most retarded way "dead babies", I'm sure as hell thats the wrong choice of words..dumbass

I'm an ovo-vegetarian, basically a vegan that eats eggs. (I don't really see a problem with eggs from the proper source; also pro-choice :p)

I remember meat and yes, it is delicious. I'm also in full agreement with the people here that say we should let each individual come to their own moral conclusions. This guy was a bit of a douche to be so harsh, but I can't blame him too much for sticking to his beliefs. No matter the treatment they receive, you can't get around the fact that you cut the cow's life, it's one romp through this sensory input we call existence, short just because it tastes better. It's a touchy subject for some.

I'm going to go eat some tofu bacon. FACON!

Guess he's not a "really nice guy" afterall. Each to their own, if he doesn't want to eat meat it's up to him but jeez. People like him give vegetarians/vegans or whatever a bad rep. I've been brought up on a diet that includes meat but I do feel bad sometimes and I can't eat it if it looks like the animal - like chicken wings and spare ribs etc. But we leave vegetarians alone so they should have the same decency towards us.

screw him he's probably gay any way now gotta go i'm headed over to outback steakhouse like a real man lol

Hahahaha!
I love how non-vegetarians are like "I just ate a steak! YUM!" Fantastic, lol?
I just ate some SPINACH! And maybe some CARROTS too... YUMMMM!! I also have TOFU in my fridge. Ain't I just a hoot?

But seriously, it definitely is your choice. I have been a proud vegetarian for over 3 years and I would never, ever push my beliefs on anyone else. Then again, I would expect people to do the same for me.

The guy seems like a very strong and opinionated kind of guy, you'll meet millions of them. Just move on. Press the 'delete' and 'block' option on your phone. No biggie.
(and to #108- if we don't buy the dead animal, then there will be no reason for people to kill more of them. Thus, having millions of animals survive :D. That's how I think of it anyways).

I'm a vegetarian/vegan myself. I don't think it's right to eat any meat, because I don't feel it's fair or right to kill animals because we think they're tasty. I think every living thing has the right to live, not just humans. Meat is tasty, indeed. But that still isn't an excuse for slaughter, in my opinion.

Anyway, back to the FML, this person doesn't even deserve to be a vegetarian. I will tell people that I'm a vegetarian and If they're curious, I'll tell them why, but to react like that is crazy. And seriously, most vegetarians would reply "Ohhhh. Well I'm a vegetarian. Lol." or something like that (Unless you went into detail on how much you love veal/meat, in which case I would get a little annoyed and angry) Anyway, I, personally, wouldn't mind dating a meat-eater (Of course, I would prefer a vegetarian over a meat-eater (Hey, wouldn't you chose the person you had most in common with?)). But I wouldn't let that get in the way of anything.

@121

See, that steakhouse comment is just silly. What's so manly about telling a waiter/waitress you'd like the big dinner platter and a side of onion rings? You must be a macho chewer.

Unless you're going to hunt the meat down yourself and bring it in for them to cook...

#121

Oh wow! You're eating a steak! Your masculinity is so overwhelming! Killing an animal as violent and dangerous as a cow is SO impressive.

I'm a vegetarian too. I'm not personally one for insulting people over not being vegetarian. A lot of vegetarian people are turned off by meat-eaters as lovers. He shouldn't have been rude to you, but he was right to tell you from the start that he wasn't interested. and YDI for being upset with him "not respecting your choice" when clearly you're not exactly respectful of his.

#124, #125

LOL.
Guys, I was being sarcastic. I am a vegetarian, read on. I was addressing the same topic as you guys. I don't see eating a steak translating into masculinity (I'm a girl, btw).

I agree.

#128
That's really weird. I thought I was. Ooops

#129

Alrighty....

#108-- that was a really stupid statement. do you even know how they prepare viel? maybe you should research it before you post stupid statements like that.

#121

So you hate gays AND vegetarians?

Veal is delicious. Self-righteous zealots aren't.

Forgot to mention -- foie gras is also delicious. Discuss.

wow 124 and 125... you really couldn't tell he was being sarcastic? you guys need to work on your sense of humor before you freak out like that and make jackasses of yourselves

#133, #134

You're proving my point.

(See comment #123)

gamerdude... you need to chill out... stop taking these comments so literally or your'e going to keep getting pissed off, bud...

just chill

#135

You're not commenter #121?

#132
i neither hate gays nor vegetarians i respect everyone it was just humor if u r gay or a vegetarian or a gay vegetarian and feel offended i apologize dont take everything so personnal lets hang out and play some video games lol

#140

I'm a straight vegetarian. And I'll take you up on that offer ;)

Yea F you. You're disgusting. I don't eat BABY animals either. Guess you pretty much have no heart, and that's why he didn't want you.

This is like the opposite of a FML. Sounds like you dodged a bullet with this guy not wanting to associate his crazy ass with you any further.

#143 ftw.

I don't care about the slaughter of animals because utility calculus doesn't exist and I just do whatever horrible hedonistic thing I feel like, and a world without animal exploitation isn't a sustainable one and can't exist.

If meat is murder...then it is tasty, tasty, delicious murder. i am going to get myself a bacon cheeseburger now

#146

...Thanks for sharing?

Well, I'm a vegetarian, and I hate people like that. Imagine not saying that you love veal, and going on a date or something, and you ordering veal. What would have happened then?

I eat meat all the time. Tons of it. Probably too much.

BUT, I've never eaten veal... nor would I. I'm not in favor of animal torture, and to me, eating veal is supporting torture in its worst form.

However, self-righteous vegetarians and vegans make me want to hit something. How is what I eat any of your concern.

Point is, OP, you really are lucky that you found out before the first really awkward date.

I'm a vegan. I would NEVER tell someone what that idiot told you, but somehow people expect it of me because a few vegans ruin it for everyone. It goes the other way too. So many people act so suspicious and concerned about this lifestyle I've chosen, why I don't eat at the restaurants they do, if I'm getting adequate nutrition, blah blah blah.

At least you got rid of him early. Although I do think it's a bit random to be discussing veal through text. x

Some people are just nuts. If they choose not to eat meat, its their choice. They've no right to force that on everyone else. I think you're better off without him. And, personally, I love veal too.

Regardless of what your respective beliefs are, what he did was really rude. FYL for having to deal with such a creep.

I eat meat, I just can't bring myself to eat veal. I only eat free-range and Kobe beef. And for anyone else who reads Discover magazine, studies on animals show they do indeed have, feel, and express feelings just like humans do....

my view is if I'm eating a burger or steak or other dead animal, it's already dead and I may as well make it a nice meal instead of throwing it in the trash.

FYL, you shouldn't see him at all anymore. besides, who doesn't like eating tortured baby cow? xD

what a douche bag.. i am not vegetarian simply because meat is good but i try to eat more fish than anything else because they don't have to go through so much hell.. kurt cobain might agree.. but it is really sad what animals have to go through so they can be eaten.. but geeez he took it to a whole new level

Totally deserved that one, you sicko!!

#25 is right on it. even if he's not a vegan or a vegetarian, as so many of you suggested, he could still be very insulted by veal; its a really touchy subject. i wont lie, i like it, but a lot of my friends, even those who arent vegetarian, frown on me for it. its whatever.

I never understood vegatarians...You should lose his number on principal. Who wants to date a rude vegan you met at the mall?

I didn't read anyone else's comment, because there are so many.
He has a right not to date someone who doesn't share his values. He shouldn't go crazy when he encounters someone who doesn't share those values. He's just another frog.

You don't have to be a vegetarian to think the way calves are raised to be veal is fucked up. Guy's still a dick though.

its funny how vegetarians condemn people who eat meat though they never think of all the animals that die during harvest of their food. at least we eat what we kill.

I think most of the people he commenting here don't have any idea what veal actually is. They just know it's a kind of meat. I eat meat, cheese and eggs. I'm no where near a vegetarian/ vegan. But veal is pretty fucked up. I would be annoyed if the person I was with ate veal. The only person I know who eats veal is my mother, but she's a heartless robot anyway and it cracks me up. YDI.

#156 My head just exploded.

Good that you found out that he's a nutjob so quickly, I say. There's far roo many nice people in the world to worry about random wackos.

good on him... veal is baby cows, kept alone in tiny stalls in the dark, away from their mothers, then slaughtered by being hung upside down by their back legs over a conveyer belt, being anally electrocuted, then having their throats cut, usually while still fully conscious because the shocks aren't strong enough.

It is possible OP wasn't even aware of how badly veal is treated. I mean, it's hardly something that the butchers going to tell you when you buy it. She might not be very clever (probably true seeing as she picked up a bloke at the mall)
The man's a nutjob though, getting that upset. Fine, if its his view, but don't inflict it on everyone else!!

You should have found out if he was a vegetarian before you mentioned veal. But seriosly he shouldn't get so pissed off because everybody has different views about food and he can't make everybody in the world share his views

People act like veal is worse than regular beef becuase it comes from calfs and not cows. Stupid double standard.

#31... it's natural for humans to eat meat, but it's NOT natural that we've made an institution out of it. other animals must hunt for their food, while we slaughter animals that have been specially raised for it in giant factories. do you see animals like sharks, tigers, etc. raising and slaughtering their pray by the thousands per minute? didn't think so...

#30, it's not a case of "vaginatitis" as you so maturely put, it's about being empathetic and feeling BAD for animals that have to go through that just so we can have a nice tasty meal. With all our modern advances we should be able to find a nutritous and ethical substitue for meat. But, it's not about that at all. It's about us constantly letting everything around us know we're in charge..and the taste of it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not in PETA and I don't support PETA (they're a buncha loonys most of the time) but I don't belive in torturing animals for food, fur or entertainment. And any of you who think the animals you eat are killed "humanely" go watch "Meet you meat" on youtube.

YDI for bringing up something controversial without even really knowing the guy. YDI EXTRA if you weren't even aware veal is a controversial subject, since you'd prettymuch have to be living under a rock your whole life to miss that one.

...

YDI SUPER EXTRA if you actually do live under a rock! XD

Veal is good.

http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming.asp

here's the page with meet your meat type of videos... watch them all if you still think animals are "put down humanely"

lol at #4,

sound like a loser anyway, get rid of that number. silly intolerant little boy.

so basically, it's okay to eat cows, pigs, chickens, and fish, but if someone started buying puppies, dogs, cats, and kittens and started brutally killing them that would be completely brutal and the person should go to prison?

in many foreign countries they eat dog meat as part of a normal diet.

I'm with #86

@8: Veal isn't killed even 'somewhat humanely'. Veal is a baby cow, usually younger than about 30 weeks, and kept in crates too small for them to even turn around.
I'm not vegetarian by any means, but veal may is where even I draw the line.

And the liberal left is just as tolerant as the conservative right, so don't even go there.

However, this guy is a little radical about it, I'd say. People take this shit way too far.

Ok...so in other words you dodged a crazy person and you still get to eat meat. Where's the real FML here? Probably that you love veal. It tastes nasty to me =\

Although I guess the "preparation" of it kind of puts a bad taste in my mouth. Then again, the animal is just going to be consumed anyway, whether it's early in life or later on.

#114: five things.
- Vegetarianism, not vegitarianism. E, not I.
- Meat-inism? Never heard of carnivorism? Though omnivorism would be more accurate, I doubt many people live on meat alone.
- Why would vegans hate fantasy creatures?
- Why are you dragging Twilight into this unnecessarily, then claiming you don't like it? Trying to be cool?
- Bacon IS pork.

Idiot.

Veal is probably one of the worst meats you can eat. If you don't know why - look it up, it's awful. So I don't blame him for ditching you.

I agree with #177. I'm not vegetarian/vegan but I would never eat veal. That's just f***ed up.

That's what you get.

Did you know PETA thinks we should hunt whales? They say since 1 whale = about a bunch a pigs then whales are fine to hunt. Lets forget the fact that they are rare/endangered. PETA to me is a hyporciritical bunch. And you know some Vegans and Vegetarians are ok just as long as they aren't screaming their faces off at you. Lose the jerks number you are better off without him.

veal is delicious dont date stupid hippies

Wow. People really prefer being outraged and throwing around outdated facts about veal.

What's always interesting to me is how slaughtering animals who were bred to be used as food then gets confused with the issues of how they were treated when they were alive and whether or not it's okay to eat little ones.

If you can eat the adults, you can eat the babies. Differentiating between a "big cow" and a "little cow" when it's time to eat is just stupid. Either they are food or they aren't. I like eating meat, so for me, it's all about whether it's tasty, expensive, and/or horribly unhealthy. (Bacon, among other things, is *awfully* fatty stuff).

Where I go completely the other direction is regarding how the animals are treated how they are alive. Not only is it bad for the animals - and even the meat! - when they are treated poorly, but it's bad for the humans, too. One of the reasons that torture and mistreatment of any kind has been outlawed is because it can do irreparable harm to the *torturer*. It's just a bad practice all around.

Even more to the point, an animal handler recently redesigned the way the cows used by McDonald's were led to slaughter. Cattle prods were done away with, and special corrals were built that kept the cows in close quarters on their way to a slaughter machine.

It worked. Instead of being zapped and whipped screaming to their deaths, the cows enjoyed the snug closeness of the new corrals and went quietly where they were supposed to go. Better for them, better for the handlers, better for everyone.

While I don't eat cow it isn't for ethical reasons. Humans are in a species and classified scientifically as animals (within the kingdom animalia), and some animals are carnivorous. Lions eat other lions and no one says anything, so why should humans be ashamed of eating meat? Who cares if he doesn't like you? Find a man who can grub on a burger.

mmm veal is yummy. Sweetie, would you want to date a vegeterain anyways, hell no, date a man that loves steak and potatoes

#100 WTF ? You know that meat is muscle, right ?... RIGHT ? (in my country at least)

I don't know anything about this, can somebody explain to me what's the difference between the living conditions of veal and cow ? One live longer than the other, but I always thought both of them had horrible lifes, and that, at least, the veal's life is shorter. (I'm not being sarcastic, I'm honestly curious about this)

Ouch, that sucks.

YDI for eating veal

#188 There was a time when veal was raised in a dark box and not allowed much movement whilst being overfed in order to produce more tender meat. Many countries have outlawed this practice, though apparently the "save the cute animals" types haven't gotten that memo, or refuse to acknowledge it.

They are killed the same way any cow is killed, and raised basically the same.

Some of you people need to update your "facts" on veal and other types of meat.. Yes, there are still some instances where they are treated badly, but as a whole, they are treated pretty good. Most of them are fed good food and have room to graze and such.

I eat meat and find pushy vegetarians and vegans irritating. However, I think the raising of calves for veal is barbaric. It's pretty arrogant of us as a species to think its ok to subject what is an emotionally intelligent animal to that kind of torture all in the name of food, when there are kinder alternatives out there.
The animals eat animals argument is good until you consider that lions etc don't stick their prey into small crates and breed from them. Their meat is at least free-range.
I think if we are going to raise animals specifically for the purpose of eating them then we owe it to them to make sure they have decent quality of lives, living in humane conditions. (I've worked on farms... it's perfectly do-able, and far more rewarding!)
I know that I'm starting to sound like one of those pushy people I myself have grown to loathe, but I'm just trying to explain there are compromises out there and that while I'll never give up meat, I'll draw the line at least at not eating an animal that has lived and died under such appalling conditions.

I have a great video link about this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuJsiT9RClk

Just watch it all the way. Its amazing. The intro is takes a bit then he talks about Animal Rights Activists.

You caught a break.

People who tried to push their moral vegetarianism on you are generally assholes.


...and I don't even like veal.

thats silly. he shouldn't force his beliefs on you. and really did he just think every random person at the mall would be a vegetarian?

Every Omnivorous or Carnivorous animal to ever live should burn in hell for all eternity. In fact, anyone who has so much as stepped on an and or used germicidal chemicals should be castrated, then tortured to death and put into the seventh circle of hell.

I'm a vegetarian, and I don't expect you or anyone else to be one.
But veal? Honestly? Baby cows that are tethered to a pole their whole life? You actually raved about how much you loved veal? You couldn't say crispy snack wraps or hamburgers or something a little less brutal? You actually raved about /veal/?
YDTO.

Well you deserve it you dumb bitch.
If you really don't see anything wrong with eating a baby cow that has lived in a tiny crate screaming for its mother its whole life until its drained of blood, you should go ahead and put a bullet in your skull.
I don't care what other meat you eat but veal is disgusting.

this guy sounds like a good match for me :]

can i just ask why you were raving so much about veal?

you shouldn't text the guy the same day he gave you his number
YDI

Wow...everyone here needs to calm the fuck down. If you like to eat meat, then great. Shut up about it. If you're vegetarian, again, shut up about it. Everyone has different ethics and there's nothing you can do about it so live with it. That said, I do think that animals should be treated more humanely than they are...

agree with 46

Well, there's your lesson: never talk to strangers.

All of you saying "Meat is ok but veal is horrible!!11" are wrong. It is now illegal in most countries to put them in small boxes like said above.

well I like animals its not my fault they taste so delicious when fryed n smoothered in sauce : )

Well, I'll eat the heck out of a steak, but I can't eat veal - it just doesn't seem right cause they're slaughtered so young. Oh, and I can't eat venison either - I saw Bambi one too many times.

Wow, I can't believe the stupidity of some people. You get all upset about veal, because it's a "baby animal", and that makes it inhumane. Where the fuck do you think your scrambled eggs come from? Hmm, maybe a FETUS!! At least the calves get a chance to life for a while.

the problem isn't that he's against meat, he's not. the problem was he's against eating the baby cow. in my opinion he's right, just shouldn't have been so crazy about it.

#209: seriously? the egg, actually, really doesn't start out as anything, and that's what we eat it as. it doesn't count as a fetus initially. get your facts straight.

#5 Lmao haha you beat me to it!
PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals < I always love how that works. :P

But that's stupid you're eating the meat to live it's an every man for himself world and you need to worry about yourself first. Plus those animals happen to be raised for food!!!!!! It's not "murdering" them dumb asses. (Of course unless you go in the woods and hunt for it that's a different story)

before anyone goes ape about my comment, i too am a member of the alternate PETA XD

Veal is one of the most sustainable and healthy meats available. I've visited a veal grower; I've seen the calves; I've discussed the practices, and I am entirely in support of the veal industry.
That said, the veal industry is moving to group housing- what the consumer wants. They will do anything the consumer wants, as long as the consumer is willing to pay for it.

http://www.vealfarm.com/

WHAT A PUSSY supporting animalmurder. you shouldnt even be dating someone with a gaping vagina

fyl but then again ydi at the same time, YOU ARE EATING BABY COWS YOU SICKO!

AWWWW don't eat the baby cows!!!
Just eat the grown up ones that aren't as cute.
You can make a FANTASTIC faux-veal breaded cutlet meal by just pounding the beef til it's really thin and tender... mmmmm.... dagnabbit, now I've gone and made myself hungry.

VEAL IS MURDER of really cute little baby animals! Don't do it!!!!
lol

Did he assume you were a vegetarian? FHL for not realising he's a minority.

You are DISGUSTING. I hope you rot in hell.

Oh, and by the way, I'm not a vegetarian. I just don't like torturing baby animals.

High five for helping our farmers shift veal calves who would have to be killed anyway, and supporting the ailing agriculture industry.

On a similar note, #219 can get its facts straight about the way life really works.

Good riddance - not someone youy want.

You are disgusting. Veal is made from BABIES. And the 'extraneous animals' wouldn't have to be killed if they were never bred, to the dumbass who posted #220, and by the way, LIVESTOCK and AGRICULTURE are not the same. #220 can get its facts straight about the fact that the livestock industry wastes sooooo many resources, and that eating meat is ecologically unsound.

Anyway, I don't bitch out meat eaters, or reject prospective lovers who eat meat, (in fact, a majority of the people i've dated have been carnivores) but I WOULD bitch out and reject someone who was gushing about veal. Have some self restraint.

I'll admit - YDI for just going on and on about veal. Who the hell goes on about meat.

But yeah, I have a friend like that. She constantly tells me some poor little pig or cow died so I could eat. People just need to learn to respect other people's eating habits.

#222 You've dated carnivores ? Are you sure you don't mean omnivores ? You say "I don't bitch out meat eaters" but the vocab you use makes me think otherwise.

Veal is made from Cows. Just like cow is. Babies can't have babies.

Also: agriculture: The art or science of cultivating the ground, including the harvesting of crops, and the rearing and management of livestock; tillage; husbandry; farming. =)

#100 - Ftw!
It's funny how this discussion has become a raging war between vegetarians and omnivores... and how most are spewing out fallacy (i.e. vegans/vegetarians have unhealthy diets.)

getting a guys number at a mall, is kinda sketchy..it wouldn't hurt to lose it anyway.

#225 And yet, just as many are spewing outdated information about how veal is raised. But it's so much more fun to be outraged and have wrong information than you know...be informed enough to know that most veal is not raised in a box screaming for its mother.

As a former veg, I know it's unhealthy.

he is obviously gay.

Everyone you meet at the mall are psychopaths. Seriously.

hahahahaha if it happened to be at woodfield mall in scahumburg, IL i think i know exactly who that was

#222, "eating meat is ecologically unsound"? What fucking planet do you live on? No human would be here today without meat. We probably wouldn't have developed past the primitive primate stage without meat! The human digestive system is not made like a herbivore's for a reason: humans, like millions of other species on earth, eat meat, in addition to plant products. The world ecosystem would be destroyed if no animals ate other animals. Would you call that ecologically sound?

By the way, I eat venison, which lives a long, active life, is given no supplements to its natural diet (except salt in places where there is a lack of it in the environment), and is free to do whatever it wants (it can and does escape from the hunter many times, unlike livestock animals). In my opinion, the only reason people don't like hunters is because of gross media misrepresentations like Bambi, and because of the activities of those dumbasses we like to call poachers.

That said, I like almost any meat, and have no problem with eating it.

Despite the way Veal is made, I still find it to be one of the most delicious deli-meats I can ever put on a sandwich.

People like him who wig out because of the methods of how food ends up on the plate creep me out!

flash forward to when theres a fml like this about lamb :)

Now you know that he's a vegetarian, and therefore worthless.

Be glad you found this out now instead of later.

I love how people who say YDI, don't realize they are saying they are saying; You deserve to burn in hell, for eternity. Yeah, just for eating veal? I think God can give the OP a break. Come on people!
If you hate veal, that is fine. I don't eat veal, I hate it. You don't see me pushing my likings onto someone else so why should all of you. And, no, it is NOT only vegetarians/vegans, it's also we meat-eaters. Not all of us from each group but some. Some vegans/vegetarians try to persuade meat-eaters to their point of view, and vise versa. We aren't all going to like the same things, so why not just let the person eat whatever the hell they want.
I do find the way they kill baby cows inhumane, but I will NOT go to a resturant and kick some lady's ass just because she feels the need to eat it.
And I find what this guy did, tactless and rather idiotic. Really, burn in hell? All you have to say is: "Oh, I'm a vegetarian and I find what they do really inhumane..." Something of that sort, start a debate. Hell you might even get her over to YOUR side.
YLIF, try not to talk about meat or food for that matter when you start to talk to a guy. You should try to find out all of his prefrences.

Well, if you didn't say you loved eating baby cows, maybe he wouldn't have said that. I'm not a vegetarian, but seriously, there are certain meats I won't eat because it's just too inhumane. That being said, I don't think I'd react like that anyway. My personal choice is to not eat veal, lobster, etc. But what other people do is their business. So yea, he kind of overreacted.

People who say that the animals we eat are killed humanely gotta be kidding or living in a Disney movie.

We live in a capitalistic world. We don't have time to kill humanely. Visit an animal farm/ slaughterhouse if you don't believe in animal cruelty.

Ya know, this actually reminds me...I did go to a butcher shop once, asking if they had veal. The lady up front called me a sick bitch and kicked me out.

I can't help it if it tastes damned good. Even after my Dad told me exactly how it's prepared, I just looked at the meat slice he'd given me, took another bite, shrugged, and said "Still tastes good".

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sooo there's this thing called the food chain... and I just happen to be on top of it. Lucky me, hun?

I eat meat (a lot), but I don't eat stuff like Veal or Fois Gras because of the way the animals suffer in its production. So I can understand his reaction, even if it was excessively rude.

I don't understand why people get so upset at vegetarians, those that DON'T push their beliefs off on everyone else that is, if they choose to not eat meat that is their choice, not YOURS, just as you choosing to eat meat is yours not THEIRS, and aside from a few that push their vegan/vegetarian beliefs on everyone and go way over the top the ones I encounter most that are the rudest and have the LEAST respect for how others choose to live their life is MEAT EATERS!
Many meat eaters get so angry when they hear that someone doesn't eat meat, that person, may not have said anything other than simply I don't eat meat, and will get ATTACKED for it. The meat eater screaming. meat is delicious, we have SHARP teeth for a reason, etc... wow, you need to calm down and back off, as long as the vegan/vegetarian isn't telling you to NOT TO EAT MEAT, SHUT UP.
And, veal is wrong for reasons different than eating adult cow or most other meat. There are other foods that also won't eat for the way an animal was tortured/killed. There is a HUGE difference between the normal slaughter of animals, and the torture of some.

Bahahhahaa you deserved that one.

It's okay, he was gay anyway. What straight man doesn't like meat?

i eat meat but veal crosses the line.
sorry.

Well, at least you figured that out before you went on a date or something...that would have been fun.

59 - thank you, I understand the concept of speciesism, I always had. It's like ethnocentrism, sexism, etc. The whole basis of these "ism"s is that you and what you believe in or what you are is superior to whatever else. But seriously, if you don't think that humans are superior to animals, then be my guest. If you think that a muskrat should have the same rights and values as a human, then go communicate it to said muskrat, and see how that works for you.

Education is the key? Knowing the ins and outs of speciesism would be practically useless to me, so why spend time getting to know its roots and what not? I think the phrase you wanted to use was "knowledge is power."

I already understood the concept, and was just taking it to the extreme.

lol at 5.

YDI for eating a poor animal stupid fat bitch

You deserve it. Who the hell eats veal anymore? I would tell you the same thing...if I was a guy.

I like this guy :) I'm a vegan and he seems really cool. I think he has the right to his own opinion because he doesn't murder so his opinion is better than yours. :)

tell him he is eating their food so you will see him there

Another intolerant vegetarian asshole. Don't worry about him. He's a moron.

well you are supporting animal murder.

OP: At least you round out right away that you aren't compatible. Move on.

I love all the overreaction from both sides and the fact that so many people are getting pissed about the South Park quotes. Lighten up. Best part of that episode is where they're protesting meat and trying to save the "baby cows" and Cartman is eating beef jerky and feeding it to them.

people like that give vegetarians/vegans who DON'T shove their beliefs down someones throat a bad name! btw i'm a vegetarian.

#208 && 245!!! FTW!

Look it the fuck up. Veal is disgusting and horrible. When I was little I asked my mom what Veal and Venison was she said male cow calves is Veal and Venison is deer meat. I dont eat red meat that much anymore because of that.

You're a murderer. Killin baby cows......Ugh.

That guy is a really good person, and you should take his advice. Veal comes from male baby cows that are taken from their milk producing mothers after 1 day and then spend a couple weeks in a small crate that they can barely move in. They are force fed milk-alternatives that are full of hormones, and other meat, they also get shots and fed drugs that make them grow much faster than normal. Then they are sent to slaughter where they are hung upside down with their neck slit while fully conscious. They feel all this pain. Their mothers cry out in agony when their babies leave, and you drink the milk that was meant for that baby cow you're eating too. Rethink the way you see the meat industry please, it's much worse than most think. F that Cows Life, not yours.

#257: Oh, sure, and other animals wouldn't take the chance >.>

Sure, Veal IS cruel, as the animal is forced in a small box so it can't move, but Venison can be gotten from free, wild deer. They lived a full life. Better than other animals who never even tasted fresh air

Oh, by the way, you know those sharp, pointy teeth we have? Yeah, those are designed to tear at meat

He sounds like a psycho and you're probably better off without him, but I think what he was trying to get across to you is that the production of veal is really inhumane. It's not just that they cows are young, they have to chain the calf up for the duration of its (short) life so it is unable to move in order for them to taste so tender.

That being said, he had no right to tell you to judge you for your choice, what a dick.

Vegans/Vegetarians who appoint themselves as moral authorities are just as bad as religious wingnuts who do the same. He needs to get of his high horse and move on, and I would recommend you stay away from him.

#251, get over yourself, please. You think you're hot shit for NOT doing something? Give me a break.

Addition to my earlier post (#259): Sorry if it seemed offensive. I just can't stand when people do things like calling eating meat murder, when EVERY OTHER OMNIVOROUS AND CARNIVOROUS ANIMAL DOES IT FAR MORE VICIOUSLY!

At least we kill our prey. Other animals may devour it while it is still kicking. A human is healthiest when they have both meat and vegetation (although we could cut down on meat. Everybody needs different amounts, and some have more than they need). Sure, with vitamins, that can help replace the meat, but it still isn't the healthiest. However, I realize that one can still be pretty healthy without eating meat, and I don't mind vegans and vegetarians as long as they don't say things like Meat is Murder or try shoving their ideals down my throat

Environmentalists, "rights activists" and all those types are losers. Not FYL, you got lucky because you found out he's one of those losers right off the bat.

If you types of people are so against eating meat, how come you "animal rights activists" eat plants? You do realize that plants consist of cells, which are living, don't you? You're all a bunch of fucking hypocrites. Shut up about the "meat is murder" bullshit. Eating period is "murder," because everything we eat was once alive. If it wasn't, we wouldn't get any energy or nutrition from it, and it would defeat the purpose of eating in the first place you fucking idiots.

You were better off anyway. I could never imagine myself dating some militant vegan/vegitarian who demanded that I stop, "cruelly engaging in the senseless murder of innocent animals." Funny how they conveniently forget that animals have been eating animals since the beginning of time, and that if you're going to categorize us humans as animals, then we have the right to eat animals just as much as other animals do.

#265

That argument doesn't really flow. We have a more developed brain and as such are burdened with the responsibility of reasoning. We choose to live in organized society to ensure some rights and so must give up others. (i.e. We talk of things like 'personal property' and incarcerate murderers but give up the right to walk around naked or urinate publicly.)

Animals we may be, but our moral compass must point a truer direction that another species' nescience can manage.

Sounds like you /should/ lose his number to me

Wow... really? people are retarded i'd probably slap him in the face.

Yeah, you deserved that one for sure. I'm no vegetarian, and veal is tasty, but I can't support the industry. Many, many people don't eat veal in protest to the way it's produced. You should maybe know that and bear it in mind before professing your passionate love for veal so early on in the future. That's kind of like proclaiming your love for racist jokes, you know? Sure, other people like them, too, but it's a subject you want to approach with care. Also, you're a terrible person for eating veal.

214, so as long as it's not cute, we can eat it?? Some great reasoning you have there..

People, for the last time, VEAL IS NOT KEPT IN HORRIBLE CONDITIONS ANYMORE (for the most part). You all need to updated your facts.

(Some of) the vegetarian responses on here are ridiculous
you can't have it both ways
either
1-we can agree with you saying that animals have feelings (emotions etc.) and are similar/at the same level as us-so therefore we're the animals at the top of the food chain and SHOULD eat meat
or
2-we're NOT at the same level as animals, so why should they have the same rights as us?

for the record I think that how they USED TO raise veal is pretty sick, but as many people have clearly stated above(which many of you have failed to read) times have changed.

Hahaha FML is such a good place to find meat-hating fascists.

Also it doesn't matter since that guy was an asshole anyways.

We eat bacon!!
:D

#8 Hitler was a vegetarian, so I believe was Charlie Manson.
It is not always a liberal person that makes that choice.

BalenciagaBetch9 has the best profile photo ever!

i think thats really gross ur eatting a baby cow.
gosh thats just wrong on so many levels.
ugh people like u are gross. glad he said what he said to u.

WOW LETS GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT.

Animals were put on this for us to eat. It's part of the food chain and mother nature. I keeps the worlds balanced. It's when you get greedy and start wasting and eating too much that is wrong. Eating meat is proportion is what needs to be done- not avoiding meat entirely!

Wow, way to pick 'em! :) Meat is murder... delicious, wonderful murder.

Sure I'm a meat eater. But I will never eat veal in my life. It's quite possibly the cruellest of all meats, and if you do your research I'm sure you'll agree. I'm on the dude's side. Sorry.

wow what a sick fuck you must be

For everyone saying "Oh he shouldn't have judged you on that", you don't judge people on how compassionate and kind they are? I know I do. And if you eat factory meat, you're probably not very compassionate..

And how is it okay to eat adult cows and chickens and pigs, but when it's a baby all hell breaks loose?

Owch u should of payed atenchin for what he was doing at the mall!

lol @ #8 thinking veal is killed humanely.

Wow, what a pussy. Veal is the shit. Veal Marsala...mmmmmm.

well clearly you don't want to date this guy.

I don't see how this is "FML" or "YDI". You were saved from a relationship with a useless vegan hippie. You should be happy that you avoided that, and can now find a real man.

Also, lol at #282. Until you've worked in the meat industry, you have absolutely no idea how things work. If you're stupid enough to believe PETA's Marxist propaganda, you should just be shot. I've slaughtered hundreds of steer and hogs, and the process is as humane as slaughter can possibly be.

Why veal? D:

Eating veal is fucked up, but I don't know if he should have been that harsh

okay seriously, there used to be very loose laws on all kinds of animal butchering and veal was especially raised cruelly but those laws have changed greatly. Veal is not tortured animals.

Maybe he watched south parks veal episode?

What a twat. :|
Better off without him.

veal is fucked up man

well eventually the subject about food is gonna come up, and hes just ignorant for not accepting that some people have different views from him.

...guess u won't be eating his meat... :P

Haha at least the man didn't lower his standards just to eat your meat!
High-five to him!

But in all seriousness, I'm a vegetarian and I date non-vego girls. Who gives a fuck, seriously.
That's still pretty funny though xD

#276 - word.

Realistically that's how our bodies were intended to be fueled.. All these vegans are on a million supplements a day trying to replace what their body is losing from not eating meat. I don't think animals were intended to be slaughtered and inhumanely/or excessively used for our selfishness, thats another story & its reallyy sick how those poor guys are treated,... but I'm not going to stop eating meat because of it. Regardless they're going to die, and regardless, we need to eat!

And who talks about random food while txt messaging a new guy?? lol.. I guess YDI for having such a irrelevant conversation when u should have been flirting or something :P

#8: If you're going to start bashing liberals, at least do so with the common knowledge (uncommon in your case...) that every group, political or not, has a small percentage of "crazies." If you're going to judge the liberal left on such a small percentage of us, I should start judging the conservative right as though it were made up entirely of nutcases from Westboro Baptist Church. But that wouldn't get us anywhere now would it?

Lol wow... what an idiot! Good, at least you got out before it got serious or whatever.

I love how FML comments become like a venue for profound discussions about issues that many people feel very strongly about... lol everyone visits FML to vent frustrations and opinions

that's pathetic. what a jackass.
but...really? VEAL? that's disgusting.
not that i don't like almost every other cooked dead animal(:

I hate vegetarians!
Never trust someone who doesn't heat meat!

Meat is murder!

Tasty, tasty murder.

#295: I'm vegetarian, and have never needed to take any kind of suppliment. That's because I pay attention to what I eat and make sure I get what my body requires. You can have meat as part of a healthy diet, but you don't *have* to have it; there are multiple sources for everything you need.

That's part of what put us at the top of the food chain in the first place; our wide omnivorous scope of dietary sources meant we were able to easily adapt when any particular source disappeared.

Also, "how our bodies were intended to be fuelled" is only an argument you can make if you are a creationist.

Heh, well at least you didn't waste your time with a crazy person.

Seems like you weren't compatible. I don't mind people eating meat even though I don't but tbh it would be a turn off for me if someone started going on about how great veal is, ew.

It's murder to unnecessarily kill any animal for food, but veal is the worst. The guy was right about going to hell, but didn't make his point strong enough.

It's not only scriptural, but directly spoken by the Supreme Personality of Godhead quoting scripture:

"Cow-killers are condemned to rot in hellish life for as many thousands of years as there are hairs on the body of the cow."
http://vedabase.net/cc/adi/17/166/en

well, he WAS right in saying that to you. baby cow-eating monster.

i wouldn't really be woried if i were you, the guy is obviously gay

Nthing to be sad about. He's an ass. I love eating veal and anyone calls killiing animals for food to survive is murder or an act of murder is obviously an idiot and hypocrite

308... you should look up what hyprocracy means.
and it is possible to survive without harming other lives.
i do it everyday.

the guy's right.

309: do you drive a car? do you smoke in public or when other people are around you?

You get on the subject of food and he didn't mention that he was a hardcore vegetarian or vegan at all until you said you love veal? That's kinda weird, seeing as how he went as far as to tell you to go to hell for animal murder and to lose his number...

I'm all for eating meat, but tbh, it is kinda dumb to proclaim your love for something as controversial as veal to someone you've just met.

Well you probably don't wanna date a fag like him anyway.

308 - "hyprocracy" isn't even in the dictionary. Little fucks like you probably waste more gas on their nerdy SUVs than I do with my pickup truck, and you probably never turn your computer off because you're on this site 24/7. Doesn't that, for all I care, harm nature and, in turn, other people's lives? Get a life, you little shit.

lol that isn't an FML Id be thanking God it didn't get any further than that. Had you found out later down the road, THAT would have been awkwarrrrd haha

You deserved it. Veil is absolutley inhumaine. Im not a vegitarian but i think a baby cow being locked in a dark room for 3 weeks then killed is just wrong

Hey 310 you fucking duche talk about hipocritical. Your telling him to get a life but obviously you dont have one yourself or you wouldnt have taken the time to post your stupid ass "commentary"

That guy was a fag meat is good

YDI. I'm by no means a vegetarian. I love food such as hamburger etc. But veal is taking it a little too far I think. It's basically baby murder. Picture it this way: somebody comes to your house shoots your baby and eats it. You'd be effing pissed wouldn't you? Sorry about being extreme about this but it's the only way of getting my point across.

Well, he shouldn't be too upset over just you eating meat, but veal is disgusting and torturous in the making...

I love veal too. Let's go get some.

YDI. Anyone who nonchalantly goes on about how awesome veal is obviously has no respect for the life of animals. There's eating meat, and then there's veal.

i know people don't automatically pour their heart out about things like that when they first meet people... but if he's the type of person to go off on you like that, why would he give out his number so easily in the first place? if its something he's THAT passionate about, he could've at least somehow found out your view on the subject before giving you his number. i just don't get it.

Don't feel bad. Us carnivors need to stick together!

But hey, more tasty meat for you.

He's a prick and you don't need him.

Wow, what a freak of nature... FHL for losing you because you eat meat, I mean really :| what the hell was the point in that

"4) Veal is a very healthy food since it hasn't been exposed years of growth hormones and antibiotics."

LOLOLOLOL! That couldn't be any more false.
Also, timeforpie, I completely agree with you.

I am vegitarian, and while I don't believe in eating meat, that was just wrong. The polite way to go about this is to say "Oh, I'm vegitarian" and leave it there. I mean, my boyfriend eats meat and I don't care!

If ur Christian- in genesis it was states by God that Adam and Eve should take care of the animals (in case ur stupid, that means u don't eat them) so, that would knock all Christians out of this argument...If u eat meat, it is also called gluttony

If u don't follow the bible(I can't use other religious books as examples cause idk them)- u can't say "what do u think we have sharp teeth for" and "animals kill other animals" because we as a human race have seperated ourselves from nature and our lives don't depend on what would be considered murder to our civilized society... If we w did not have such an advanced cerebral cortex, then we would depend on killing other animals and it would mean death for us if we didn't eat them; this is obviously not the case now so we shouldn't condemn other animals to the height of their lives being fattened and slaughtered. Ur stupid if u think animals don't have brains and can't feel pain or go mad from being confined in a single area for months on end( in the case of veal, weeks in a tiny box) so, unless ur gonna live like Tarzan, I think it's wrong to eat meat.

Wat a douche

Well, if he acts like that, he's not to nice of a guy is he?

Wow, whatta baby.

O.o

I am a vegetarian, but I really don't agree with the way this guy handled the situation...

Oh and Hey #31,

FYI moron- human bodies are made to be herbivores, NOT omnivores. Animals that eat meat have no skin pores (we do), perspire through the tongue (we do not!), have claws (we don't), have sharp front teeth for tearing (we obviously don't), with no flat molar teeth for grinding (what we have), have intestinal tract that is only 3 times their body length so that rapidly decaying meat can pass through quickly (humans' are 10-12 times as long), have strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat (we have acid that is 20 time less than a meat eater), and have acid saliva with no enzyme ptyalin to pre-digest grains (we do).

So before you go telling other people off, know what your talking about!

man, don't you know you don't talk about veal before you've done it? that's like religion and politics. keep it light for god's sake. veal. jeez.
talk about the shins or the oc or something. talk about the mall.

Boy he was a catch wasn't he? I'd say to losing his number "my pleasure" and "I'll meet (or meat for pun sake) you there" for when he said go to hell.

He was probably a gay hippie anyways.

OK humans are made to eat meat and vegtables. You're going against the order of nature. Are you gonna tell a tiger or an alligator Hey dont rip that baby animal to shreds! no because thats what they eat. Humans are no different we're animals too.

if god didn't want me to eat animals, why'd he make them out of meat?

Does he just assume everyone in the mall in a vegetarian? The hell?

thank you #41. you're about the only one with a fucking point.

Hey, at least you know right off the bat that he's a whack job, so no time wasted, eh?

Eh you don't want to date a commie , mind controlling, leftist loser like that anyway that has his deluded idea of morals he thinks everyone should follow.

In his defense, veal? Really?

I wouldn't make any intellengent comments back to what he said, or anything that even mattered or had to do with what he said, this pretty much works for anything: Shut the fuckin hell UP you asshole son of a bitch! I'll be the one laughing when you burn in HELL! Sucka! Add to Reject List. You're done :D

Wth just forget the guy his random person anyways

#333, I'm not sure the last time you checked out the inside of your mouth, but indeed we do have these things called 'canines.' We have four of them actually. So, as for saying "Carnivores have sharp front teeth for tearing, but we obviously don't," you're wrong. As you said, "Before you go telling other people off, know what you're talking about."

I know arguing via the internet is pointless, but people's stupidity is just mind-blowing sometimes - hence the little rant.

As for everyone saying "You're sick for eating a baby cow!" grow up. Does a baby cow feel any more pain than an adult cow that is killed the same way? No. It's just the fact emotional attatchment to small 'cute' things getting in the way of your logical reasoning. Double-standards based on 'cuteness' factor is ridiculous.

OP, you dodged a bullet.

don't feel bad. I'd kill myself if I couldn't eat meat. it's so yummy, my mouth is watering right now...

"Humane" is subjective.

"As for everyone saying "You're sick for eating a baby cow!" grow up. Does a baby cow feel any more pain than an adult cow that is killed the same way? No. It's just the fact emotional attatchment to small 'cute' things getting in the way of your logical reasoning. Double-standards based on 'cuteness' factor is ridiculous."

Good job #346 "xsamuraixlbx", someone with common sense.

Veal is cruel! YDI!

i agree with him. maybe he wasn't being respectful to you, but how respectful is it to eat the dead corpse of a little baby cow taken away from its mother at birth (to the mother's great distress) and put in such a small cage, it couldn't turn around? To give money to people who feed the cow gross unnatural things and don't let it see the light of day? Of all the FMLs on here, ydi the most. Go burn in hell.

wow to all you people saying eating veal is wrong watch the episode of southpark thats kinda like this watch what happens to stan at the end. that is you. and eating meat, no matter where it comes from, is part of the food chain. and op, sorry about the douschy guy, if hes like that you probably shouldnt have tried to call him anyway

To all the people out there that are vomiting out the horrible "truth" of veal, please stop. It's bad enough that we have to deal with PETA, but the lies after lies that they circulate are far worse. Veal isn't always, and usually rarely is the chemical fed calfs in cages. if it's good veal, it's a calf that has been raised naturally for about 10 months, and is slaughtered....end of story, get on with your life, it's done with it's. to you vegans that are so against meat, go spend five weeks out in a forest, and live purely on your vegtables and fruits, and see if it's so glorious to spare the rabbit when you lack vital nutrients. And OP, lose that's wimps number.

mmmmmmm... Veal!
you guys missed the point. totally. this isn't a veg- not veg discussion. this is a discussion about this guy and how rude was he, not showing any respect or manners whatsoever. He could've just say - "hey I don't like you eating meat, sorry I think it would be best if we could cut this thing off."

If people weren't meant to eat meat pigs would be faster and cows would taste bad.

I hate when people are this terrible because someone doesn't share the same values or beliefs as them. It's no excuse at all. And for the people attacking the OP for eating veal..any of you done proper research or you just believing what you've been told?

I grew up on a cattle farm, and the conditions of the animals were perfectly fine. None were mistreated and no calfs were sealed in dark rooms until their day of slaughter.

usually it's the girl who's the vegitarian. well, I'd date you. veggies are good, but only beside the meat!

hahahaah #5 love u. I ate vegetarians that expect everyone believe everything they do.

It's technically not cruel if the animals were bred to be eaten. They have no other purpose.

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