Today, I was debating weed legalization in drug awareness. I was thoroughly unleashing arguments: how marijuana turns normal citizens into criminals, how the government spends billions to enforce drug laws, when I lost my train of thought. My teacher grinned saying, "My point exactly." FML

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Yep, when I smoke weed I like to go a rapin' and a killin'... lame.

Asshole teacher. He probably smokes/smoked more than you do back in his day.

And if this was reversed Ie: the person debating against legalization lost their train of thought and someone suggested they were playing both sides of the fence *wink wink, nudge nudge* then they would probably get very annoyed and angry that you suggest they smoke (generalization I know but most people I have spoken to that are against legalization have never touched the stuff.. never will and think anyone that does is a lazy good-for-nothing).

When will people realise that the only reason weed is not legal today is because A. Americian cotton farmers didn't want to competition from hemp and B. Because America scared everyone with propganda so much that they made it illegal in almost all countries.

It's a natural planet for goodness sake. If people want to roll it up and smoke it when why give a fuck? They don't seem to care when people kill their bodies off with cigarettes and alcohol.

teachers now a days suck. my dad told me he gave a teacher a rolled joint for a birthday present and he got an A in the class. now you'll go to jail. god damn commis

#4, I hope you're joking. Communists had nothing to do with making marijuana illegal. You can blame that on the Republicans.

#2 - He was debating /for/ legalization, not against.

Anyway, that teacher is sort of a jerk.

Government spending isn't a bad thing, boosts GDP, and right now I think the world could do with some of that. Inn other words, people who smoke weed are aiding in the recovery of the economy! If that's not a great argument I don't know what is.

If your teacher has ever, in his entire life, lost his train of thought, his point is moot.

weed doesn't make normal citizens into criminals....it makes criminals tired and hungry more then likely lowering the crime rate if anything

marijuana turns normal people into criminals?
yea no... maybe because they are smoking illegal, not refrence to things like robberies, thefts..

and the "propoganda" reason to why its still illegal is horseshit, and anyone who knows anything about the current arguments about marijuana legalization knows that.
They have no scientific proof that it is extremely dangerous
the ONLY reason it still remains illegal, is because if the government does decide to legalize it, they cannot tax it to its fullest extent. Smoking does the same damage, its legal why? because they can cultivate it themselfs, and imply any taxes they chose to because do you know anyone who grows their own tobacco to make their own smokes? no..
With marijuana, people can grow it, and produce it themselfs and the government will not make shit off it.

misunderstood your arguement....I was thinking that you were saying just cause someone smokes weed they are bad people aka criminals. After reading it I realize you were trying say that smoking mary J creates a label on ordinary citizens labeling them as a criminal when if fact they arn't.....damn limiting the word count!

If I were you, from now on I would shout "MY POINT EXACTLY" every time the teacher stutters or loses his train of thought.

That was a cheap shot, but you should've known. Don't EVER take that side of the debate in public if you don't have to. They will label you a stoner and never listen to what you have to say again.

I agree with stepyourgameup. Two can play the asshole game.

I'm in favor of you on this, but I've got to point out that a bit of self confidence in your points could have shut the teacher down completely. For example: After the asshat remark, simply point out that losing one's place in a presentation and then taking a snide remark from the peanut gallery in stride is nothing compared to the epic beating of the teacher, assault charges from his family, massive hospital bill and your eventual expulsion that would have ensued had you been drunk. And alcohol is not only legal, its use is encouraged at parties and social gatherings.

#14 chances are that class is a load of shit like english where the teacher can just give whatever mark he wants. two can play the asshole game but we know which one will come out the victor.

It sounds like the teacher was just making a joke and most of you are way too uptight.

Yep, down here in the Netherlands everyone is a criminal :)

This is so not a big deal. I think you need to lighten up and take the damn joke instead of getting all butt hurt and whiny. It's not like he said "aHA, point proven!" and wrote you up for drug use. I'm sure now a bunch of people are going to start bitching about how as a teacher he was way out of line and that school is a place for seriousness only and jokes can never ever be made about anything or at anyone's expense ever. Honestly, I don't see an FML here. If you're really that upset by it tell your teacher you would prefer he not have a sense of humor because it makes your PMS start.

weed, pot, reef, kush, green, marijuana, ect. DOESN'T TURN YOU INTO A KILLER

It is a drug with effects similar to alcohol and if you grab a shotgun and run around killing people while your high it's either to try to prove me wrong or because you really hate the world and would do it drunk too

go away, let people bun you ill-informed child

haha i think the teacher rocks i would have laughed so hard if i was in that class!!

#5 - I hope YOU aren't serious either. Legalizing marijuana is not a Republican vs Democrat issue, nor was it ever.

@ the OP - You got served.

pot turns people into criminals? it makes people friendly and eat and sleep good. smuggling anything illegal makes people into criminals, not just pot. herb is the healing of a nation, alchahol is the destruction.

i don't see the cause of the "FML"...the only thing that you should be sayin FML for is the fact that u didn't get up and show the teacher who's boss. u shoulda put yo D in his mouth, then he could have written, "today, in school, a student put his D in my mouth,FML" and then there would be something on this website that would actually be funny

Weed does turn people into killers, robbers, criminals. Not in the sense that when you do it, you'll go and murder someone(though sometimes you be inclined to) but people rob and kill for the money in order to buy more weed. The legalization of all drugs actually would help. People do drugs for the purpose of escaping, or because everyone else is doing it and they want to too. If Consenting adults choose to get high, that's their business. If we can keep them safe, (ie. clean needles, safe places to buy drugs) then we wouldn't have to spend billions of dollars on the drug war. Drugs has existed in pretty much every society in the world, and clearly, drug prohibition isn't the way to go. Although that's just my point of view.

alcohol is much worse than weed, i agree with that, on alcohol, you get in fights on weed, you spend you high trying to figure out how to stop you friends leg from growing too fast, however the people saying "weed is illegal because the government can't tax it" is Enough cow shit you could grow some "magic" mushrooms in said cow shit. they spend more money in law enforcement and campains against weed than they could ever make in fines they handout. it's illegal because a lot of people grow up in strict homes where all illegal drugs are bad, now, all grown up, many people still spew forth the opinions of people that they grew up with. and now the few people that might be able to change it get shot down by these dumbass' that can't think and form opinions for themselves.

so don't get mad at people who spend their time finding facts and figures that embrace their views against pot, get pissed at people that simply say. "pot is bad, because.......uh.....my mommy and daddy said so."

#25- i'm pretty sure that was OP's point...

#14: He could have gone further than this. He could have given the teacher a cold, hard stare, and say that if the teacher is implying that he has used an illegal drug and broken the law, then that teacher had better demonstrate some evidence to back up that claim, or publicly and sincerely apoligise, with the threat that a lawsuit for slander (or defamation, or whatever applies) will be coming his way very quickly if he refuses. A teacher saying that sort of thing is COMPLETELY UNNACEPTABLE.

#25: From what you describe, weed doesn't turn people into crooks and killers. Not being able to AFFORD weed does that. My friend, that criminality is a symptom of poverty, not of drug addiction. You are correct, though; legalisation will help. It will give people avenues to enjoy the drug without getting anywhere near the criminal world. Johnny Teen isn't going to get involved in gangs and dealers if he can buy a little dope in a shop with his paper round money; he'd never have to go anywhere near criminals, avoiding "getting in with a bad crowd".

It isn't the drug that's causing the crime. It's the illegal status of it. If you made chocolate illegal, you can be sure you'd soon have gunfights between Hersheys dealers in the streets, kids mugging women to get the $50 needed for his next bar of smuggled-in British Dairy Milk.

It's all pointless debating it, though. If you really want it legalised over there, just convince your Republicans that they'll save billions in law-enforcement and penal-system costs, and they'll MAKE billions in new tax revenue on the legalised drug. And not to mention the fact that you can comfortably grow it in your country; so that more money made in a new agricultural industry. And all those dope smokers are now out there able to get work and pay taxes, instead of sitting in a cell for three years because they got caught enjoying a puff too many.

you will probably all bash me, but i am completely AGAINST the legalization of weed.

i also personally think that cigarettes and alcohol would be better off illegal too, but it's too late for that now because it's become such a big part of people's lives and the economy is already in the toilet. they've been around for centuries and nothing can change that. and i know, weed has been around too, but it's not the same thing.

YAY #27!!

*****obviously, weed/alcohol/etc doesn't turn everyone into criminals. it makes good or semi-good or whatever kind of people do bad/stupid things. that's that. i have experienced this first hand in my family and i have very strong opinions about it.

I guess being poor should be a crime as well

That's just awful of her, and really anyone, to assume that everyone who supports marijuana legalization actually uses the drug. Supporting legalization doesn't mean you're a pothead, it means you're open-minded.

"If weed isn't addictive, then why do so many potheads keep smoking it, even to the point where you throw your futures and lives away?"

For the same reason anybody does something destructive to themselves; BECAUSE MANY HUMAN BEINGS AREN'T VERY SMART.

The thing is, I am sitting here eating a chocolate biscuit, and I weigh 135lbs. Yet this same chocolate biscuit, according to you, has the power to make people keep eating and eating and eating until they're a blob of obesity...

...yet I weigh 135lbs.

So, perhaps you should be blaming people's addictive personalities and lack of willpower, rather than the things that tempt them. Why should I be denied my chocolate biscuit because other people can't help themselves eating themselves to death? Why should anyone be denied weed because some people have a lack of willpower?

And as for weed making you lazy, you're taking the subjective example of your dad and a few friends as conclusive proof that the drug makes you lazy? My experience differs, and a lot of creativity can happen with that drug, and quite a few famous writers and artists tend to agree. We all have subjective experiences with it. Why should yours be any more true than anyone else's?

My last thought for you, #27: we're all on this earth for a VERY short period of time. If someone wants to enjoy something that'll make them happy, and know and accept that it *might* reduce their time here, why would you deny them that pleasure? Do you drive? I do. I ride a motorcycle. There's a distinct likelihood that I'll die riding it. Would you try to take that pleasure away from me? What about anything else I enjoy that might put me at risk; flying on a plane, going on a rollarcoaster, eating at a restaurant, getting out of bed?

Why do you feel it's acceptable to stop people enjoying drugs and accepting their risks, but not acceptable to stop them enjoying all those other things? We are ADULTS, and adulthood is all about being responsible for your own actions. The more you ban things for people's own good, the more you treat them like CHILDREN...

...and the ultimate expression of the state treating people like children...is fascism.

There, now I've Godwin'd it. We can all go back to our busy lives. :P

So I'm not gunna lie here. I smoke my fair share of weed.
I also smoke it with my friends
Last time I smoked, we spent 2 hours dancing to techno. Clearly not lazy
I also enjoy longboarding when I'm high, also not lazy.
And as far as being addicted to pot, if you have every pleasured yourself, its a hard habit to break. No drugs required. What about shopaholics? Nymphomaniacs? Both of which don't require drugs, but do result in pleasure, just like weed. So #27, don't try to summarize marijuana and its effects because your friends are fuck ups

Granted there are few things better than eating when you are high, or watching a great movie, but who doesn't love those anyway. Am I the devil for enhancing the experience with this "killer" drug?

PS Michael Phelps, the man who has won the most gold medals in the recorded history of the modern olympics, smokes weed. Whether he admits it or not, that party was not his first time...

#27, I smoked pot all the damn time in high school, and i graduated with a 3.6 and four varsity letters. I hardly ever do it anymore, because I grew out of that phase of my life. Sometimes it's still fun to chill out though. Weed is no different than any other substance on the planet. Like #33 says, junk food can be just as bad for a person if not only eaten in moderation, but no one's calling for the outlaw of twinkies. That's the key, MODERATION. Fact of the matter is a person who sits on their ass smoking weed and being lazy all day would 9 times out of 10 be just as useless without weed. It's not the drugs fault, it's the people who use it and the way that they use it.

Oh you know guys, one puff of the ganja makes you go on killing sprees. The majority of people I know smoke weed, including my 2 bosses, who own a successful pizzeria, and none of them are criminals. Maybe you should do a bit more research...

man if my teacher called me out in class like that i would have busted right back on his ass with a "motherfuc*er, i bought it from you!"

addiction can be gentic, which means, if you grandpa was an alcoholic/drug addict and your mom/dad was there is a much higher chance you will be. it also has different affects on different people, thus mister # 35 is active while high, and # 37 is not an addict, it also takes a different amount of time to become an addict for everyone. my brother is addicted after one time, starting with alcohol ending with other drugs, and as far as the whole "it's my life, my choice" to a point thats true, you steal, no longer only your life it's affecting. and to those that think legalizing it will fix these problems, legalizing meth will no doubt fix that problem, right? no backfire there. but if we are gonna legalize drugs, next it will be fully automatic firearms which are just fine, when, like drug used safely. in reality we need to prectice willpower and moderation, not proabition. we need to think and not just read campain slogans. and to all you fucktards that think its everything or nothing and force your opinions on others shut the fuck up, you voice is like the anti-logic you are worse than the pro-life groups

LOL at #40 comparing weed and meth.......just hilarious

not comparing # 41, simply saying there are to many dumb fuckos that lump everything together, hence the "and to all you fucktards that think its everything or nothing and force your opinions on others shut the fuck up, you voice is like the anti-logic you are worse than the pro-life groups" thing at the end. read and be enlightened. so if pot does gets legalized theres a strong chance coke heroin and meth most likely will to, not to metion all the prescription drugs

#7....thank you. No one could have said it better.

No, the LOL at number 40 is that the end of the argument is that its wrong to force your opinions on others, and in doing so criticizes any one pro life. Hypocrisy makes me giggle.

ha ha owned...

#10 and #35, I concure!

@ 13 - then who will stand up? You're saying take a passive back seat and hope someone else will do it. No way to9 win the fight. TG I live in cali where people aren't afraid.

#44 didn't even notice that, but what i meant was people who actually make laws like banning gay marrige, making drugs illegal or prohibiting abortions. those are the fucktards it's just my opinion, i'm not making a law that pro-life-ers are stupid, wrong choice of words i guess

#40 - YOUR logic is way off. Studies have already proven marijuana is not a gateway drug, it has fewer health consequences than either alcohol or ciggerettes, both legal, Cali is proving legalization could bring in 1.3 billion a year toward state revenue while reducing the tax money spent on people unnecessarily jailed for carrying a personal stash. Its got health benefits and not to mention 1 acre of hemp plants can produce the same amount of product as it takes 2/3 acres of cotton. Hemp fiber can be used to produce paper and other textiles and grows quickly unlike trees which can take decades.

There are hundreds of reasons to legalize - and you comparing MJ with these other drugs that are both addictive and deadly is ridiculous.

Before you critize or lecutre someone ob logic, you may want a better argument.

#49 i know this, but take a look around, the world is full of stupid people, take you for instence i had explained that flaw in what i said, but instead of reading everything, you just wrote, what you thought from the first thing you read, now asuming you intelligence is at a normal level (if it's higher than normal, god help us all, and if it's lower, than tell us so we may ignore you) that would mean we have a world full of people not reading anything but the first thing writin down, thus, we are screwed. so plz read more, and there is still hope for you

i had also posted earlier that was a expanion on what i said read it all, than you understand, we have faith in you

lol #19 your an idiot
for one, your comparing alcohol to weed... they are nothing of the sort, im much more genious when im stoned and can focus better..
when im tanked, i fall, stumble my words, dont know wtf is goin on, pretty much opposites..

and do you feel special because you use different terms for weed, and include 1 strain name?
your an idiot.

also the person saying if weed is legalized meth coke crack all the others will to..
no you fuckin moron, marijuana has been proven to give benefits, as well as obvious toxins in your lungs.
You smoke meth, yea its terrible for you, nothing beneficial comes from smokin crack, meth or sniffin rails..
Also california is steppin their legalization steps up to benefit from a possbile tax that would be implied to provide some money becuase they are so far in debt.
And also the government stated it would not be organizing or carrying out anymore raids on medical marijuana facilities.
Because yes, in california law it is legal to provide medical marijuana... but its a FEDERAL law that it is illegal, which contradicts each other. Dont believe me read up on it.

#51 i will put this as simply as possible for you EVEN IF POT IS DIFFERENT/BETTER THAN THE OTHERs, THAT DOES NOT STOP THEM FROM BEING LUMPED TOGETHER WITH ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS. VICODIN AND OTHER PERSCRIPTION DRUGS HAVE DIFFERENT EFFECTS BUT THEY ARE LUMP TOGERTHER IN THE PERSCRIPTION DRUG GROUP, GET THIS THROUGH YOU HEAD, MAKING POT LEGAL WILL OPEN THE DOOR FOR ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS. IF YOU ARE TO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THIS BASIC IDEA OF BEING GROUP EVEN THOUGHT THEY ARE NOT EQUAL HOW CAN YOU HOPE TO WRAP YOU MIND ON COMPLEX ISSUES. HOPPFULL THE CAPS HELPED YOUR SMALL MIND

#51. For one all drugs are not in different groups. You know like class D substances and stuff. And even beyond that there's no large movement for like legalization of crack. So don't call people stupid for being able to differentiate between things. And if you were actually trying to persuade someone it's best not to E-yell.

i don't see why this would be such a big debate. maybe it does have some benefits, but those are outweighed by the risks. the toxins that cannabis puts in your lungs have so many more carcinogens than tobacco.

"A 2007 study by the Canadian government found cannabis smoke contained more toxic substances than tobacco smoke.[25] The study determined that marijuana smoke contained 20 times more ammonia, and five times more hydrogen cyanide and nitrogen oxides than tobacco smoke." from wikipedia. ammonia, hydrogen cyanide, and nitrogen oxides are things you do not want to put in your body, and the fact that marijuana has more of those chemicals than tobacco should be an instant clue as to why exactly the drug is illegal.

Personally, i don't give a damn whether it's legal or not, because if a person wants to make the stupid choice to smoke it, then that's their decision. But it's not legal, and until it does, if it does, just don't smoke it. The law is the law, and many people don't just pay fines, they end up in prison for possession and use of cannabis. So stop bitching and don't smoke, unless you don't mind eventually getting into some trouble for it. And that's probably what the OP means by turning people into criminals. If you break the law, you are a criminal. He doesn't mean you will just randomly shoot someone.

God I hate when people are so brainwashed by liberal media about the evils of "Marijuana".

I don't smoke, but lots of my friends do. They go to the following schools; UCLA, UCSD, UCSB, CHAPMAN, HARVARD, STANFORD, UCSC, CAL POLY, BROWN, GEORGETOWN, GEORGE WASHINGTON, NOTRE DAME and USC and tens of other outstanding establishments.

These kids are A and B students who have fantastic morals and a great way of living life.

If pot was legal, you won't even think about debating it.

Quite frankly, I have heard every stupid and inane argument against the use of marijuana. I am a political science major and have studied the topic thoroughly and tirelessly.

If you want to actually educate yourself on the subject, instead of lying and creating bullshit remarks such as "Marijuana turns normal citizens into criminals", visit the website I have listed.


If the government stopped its spending on the "War on Drugs", then maybe Obama and his suites would have a little money to help fix the economy. But they can't stop, because the War on Drugs, allows the government to slip billions of dollars into untraceable areas of bureaucracy.


If you truly want to STIMULATE the economy, you must legalize pot. The amount of taxes received would be enormous. We would be able to pay off our debts in about 20 years if we allowed pot to be legal this year.

But because of thick headed and brainwashed individuals like yourself roaming about this earth, that will never become a reality.


The only thing I can do, is point out blatantly your ignorance to the issue and offer ways to educate you.


Better yet, instead of me trying to educate you...why don't you do it yourself. Next time you walk by a group of stoners, ask them if you can sit in on one of their sessions. You will see that the exact opposite affect occurs. They become extremely mellow, relaxed, silly, giggly, and loving. They are in a state of euphoria.

How did happiness every get misconstrued as evil?

Are we really living in a world that promotes the denial of happiness?


It is beginning to look that way. From Obama passing this Spending Bill, to the dead beats in California passing 50 billion dollars in new taxes, constant freedoms, liberties, money, time and values are being stripped from our society.


For all those that know nothing about drugs, have never seen them in affect, have never seen the results first hand, shut your mouth until you educate yourself.


Yes there are plenty of horrible things you can put into your body, but what you do with your body is your own personal freedom. Unless you become a threat to the immediate public, what you do with your body, mind and soul is up to you.



Feel free to attack me on any grounds. I am an avid promoter of freedom of speech and welcome every opinion and view under the sun. But one thing I never tolerate is blatant ignorance.


You may contact me with your threats, praise, or just plain questions at

waronpolitics@gmail.com

Well like I said, I could care less whether it's legal or not, it's up to the individual if they want to smoke. Personally I never will because it's a risk I don't want to put on my health. Laws aren't trying to take away happiness.. they are trying to protect you.

Revised: My above comment was very spur of the moment and full of attacks on the writer. I apologize and have edited the post.


God I hate when people are so brainwashed by liberal media about the evils of "Marijuana".

I don't smoke, but lots of my friends do. They go to the following schools; UCLA, UCSD, UCSB, CHAPMAN, HARVARD, STANFORD, UCSC, CAL POLY, BROWN, GEORGETOWN, GEORGE WASHINGTON, NOTRE DAME and USC and tens of other outstanding establishments.

These kids are A and B students who have fantastic morals and a great way of living life.

If pot was legal, you won't even think about debating it.

Quite frankly, I have heard every stupid and inane argument against the use of marijuana. I am a political science major and have studied the topic thoroughly and tirelessly.

If you want to actually educate yourself on the subject, instead of lying and creating false remarks such as "Marijuana turns normal citizens into criminals", visit the website I have listed.


If the government stopped its spending on the "War on Drugs", then maybe Obama and his suites would have a little money to help fix the economy. But they can't stop, because the War on Drugs, allows the government to slip billions of dollars into untraceable areas of bureaucracy.


If you truly want to STIMULATE the economy, you must legalize pot. The amount of taxes received would be enormous. We would be able to pay off our debts in about 20 years if we allowed pot to be legal this year.

Also, the amount of petty crime would dramatically increase. Instead of kids going to a drug dealer, they would just have to go into a liquor store or smoke shop. No need dealing with sometimes dangerous dealers.

Plus dealers make it easy for kids to transition into other harder drugs. If pot was legal, they would just go to a shop to pick up some, they wouldn't be persuaded to pick up some cocaine or e.


But because of thick headed and brainwashed individuals about this earth, that will never become a reality.


The only thing I can do, is point out blatantly peoples ignorance to the issue and offer ways to educate them.


Better yet, instead of me trying to educate you...why don't you do it yourself. Next time you walk by a group of stoners, ask them if you can sit in on one of their sessions. You will see that the exact opposite affect occurs. They become extremely mellow, relaxed, silly, giggly, and loving. They are in a state of euphoria.

How did happiness every get misconstrued as evil?

Are we really living in a world that promotes the denial of happiness?


It is beginning to look that way. From Obama passing this Spending Bill, to the dead beats in California passing 50 billion dollars in new taxes, constant freedoms, liberties, money, time and values are being stripped from our society.


For all those that know nothing about drugs, have never seen them in affect, have never seen the results first hand, shut your mouth until you educate yourself.


Yes there are plenty of horrible things you can put into your body, but what you do with your body is your own personal freedom. Unless you become a threat to the immediate public, what you do with your body, mind and soul is up to you.



Feel free to attack me on any grounds. I am an avid promoter of freedom of speech and welcome every opinion and view under the sun. But one thing I never tolerate is blatant ignorance.


You may contact me with your threats, praise, or just plain questions at

waronpolitics@gmail.com



Love you all no matter how big your brain is, what drugs you do, what faith you are, or what lifestyle you promote.


Peace

Jake...Your a fool, your logic is that of a 2nd grader and your hypocrisy is astounding.

#54, did you just try and quote wikipedia as though it was fact???? I commend you for trying to do some research so you can have form an educated opinion but wikipedia is not the place to go for that.

As far as this whole debate goes i say there is no problem with legalizing marijuana. Number one, the government can tax the crap out of it, some misinformed soul up above said that tobacco can't be grown individually which is why the government can tax it and marijuana can be grown and sold by individuals so it can't be taxed. People can grow there own stash of tobacco, it just doesn't make sense to because you can buy it from the gas station. If marijuana were legalized huge corporations would start growing it and selling it and everything they sold could be heavily taxed. The tax money from this could go a long way to helping our national deficit. Someone was also pointing out what else hemp could be used for (paper etc) you left out the fact that methanol is made from the male marijuana plant. People like to talk about reducing our foreign dependence on oil, well there you go, and easy to grow plant which the female cna be sold and taxed and the male can be used to solve our gas crisis...maybe i should run for president...

HAHAHAHA........someone in my drug class said the same thing and everyone laughed at them!......Weed is not bad for you!! There is no scientific vidence to prove it. I looked. Get over it.

Ok, my turn on my own post.
My slip up came because it is very hard for me to organize my thoughts when I don't write them down and also because of frequent personal use. This is all besides the point of the debate though.

I oppose the marijuana laws for both my own selfish reasons and from an economic-minded libertarian approach. It is written in the Declaration of Independence that all men are entitled to their own pursuit of happiness. From a public health point, marijuana does not physically harm anyone. Hard drugs should remain illegal because they will lead you to decay and death.

Marijuana does not cause lung cancer or any other type of cancer. Zero people in the history of mankind have died directly from weed use. It is impossible to overdose and the worst that can happen is lethargy and fatigue. It can and has been used to treat over 120 diseases or symptoms of other medication.

This country spends 12 billion dollars fighting pot with no results. If marijuana were legalized and taxed, then it would produce 6-7 billion dollars in revenue. That means almost 20 billion dollars would be gained every year that marijuana is legalized and taxed, money that can be spent on education, health care, environmental reform, defense, anything. Currently there is a huge overpopulation problem in prisons. 40% of all arrests are because of drug laws. Again as an American, I want to support legitimate American businesses and my government with my weed money. The people bringing weed into this country are international gangs that also deal in cocaine, heroin, prostitution, slavery, and arms deals. I do not enjoy supporting those causes for what I consider should be my personal freedom.

To legalize pot would also create millions of jobs. Limited hemp research has proven that it would reduce dependence on foreign oil through hemp products and biodiesel made from hemp. Hemp is biodegradable and plastic can be synthesized from hemp fibers. Hemp seeds contain more protein than soy beans and could lower malnutrition if only it was legal to include it in aid packets sent to Third World countries.

There is no slippery slope after you legalize pot. To say that fully automatic weapons could be legalized once pot is is absolutely absurd. Jake, the only reason weed is grouped with illegal drugs is because the government decided to place that label on it. Other drugs do physical and emotional harm through addiction.

In response to #54, a good reason all those chemicals are present in weed smoke is because there has been no scientific approach to removing them, and most weed is smoked without a filter. Tobacco has been cultivated in America for 400 years and science has been around for 150 of those, the tobacco companies have billions of dollars to spend funding both research on how to make it safer and to fund anti-pot studies.

I say enough propaganda. Listen patiently to what others say and accept it only if they can prove it with facts. All that I have stated above can be proven with facts.

Jake, could it be that pot makes your family lazy because they don't want to be arrested outside? For someone who posts that you don't want people to cram opinions down other people's throats, you certainly like to cram your own down ours. In the last one I just read you were using mostly all caps.

haha reefers.

If anything weed prevents crime. It relaxes people unlike conservative morals which just stress you out and force you to be or act like something you're not. Also what's the difference really between alcohol and weed? Pretty much does the same thing "fucks you up" except weed can be grown more easily. thats the only reason it's illegal because the government doesn't want to and can't properly regulate drug trafficking within its own country.

also i'm pretty sure side effects of smoking are a lot worse (all sorts of cancer, lung disease, heart disease) are a lot worse than weed which is smoked less infrequently and is less addictive.

Someone made the "obey the law, because it's the law" argument.

Once upon a time it was against the law in America for a black person to sit at the front of the bus.

Remember that. Not all laws make sense, and laws get changed because people resist them and get them changed. If you live in a democracy, don't ever forget that it's you who gets to decide what the law is.

Time to post again. First off, #59, you are greatly misunderstood if that's what you think. One of my closest friends died from being poisoned by all the chemicals in marijuana. He smoked nonstop, which is why they had ill effect on him. The reason they say it's not dangerous for you is because most people who smoke it don't smoke it in excess, and only inhale a small amount of the chemicals.

Personally, people should have a right to do what they want, as long as it isn't causing serious harm to others or themselves(I don't mean like a small chance of getting cancer or poisoning from any kind of smoking, but of more serious drugs which can kill you after a single use, such as heroin). I don't mind if it's legalized, and if it's not I won't complain. I choose not to smoke, but that's just me. I'm not going to judge you anyone for smoking weed because like I said, we have rights. I just think it's not the best idea to smoke, but again, just me.

#65, dude you are either lying or have your facts completely mixed up. "All the chemicals in marijuana"? Seriously? Maybe, if you are unlucky, you have trace amounts of pesticides OR a growth mixture. That's it.

Well played by the teacher. I have nothing against pot but it is proven to cause retrograde communication in neural pathways which will kill neurons and you're brains ability to use those pathways. That said, I know several extremely intelligent potheads but if you're already lacking brainpower you might want to lay off.

Just read #64-- well said musu.

#65 : Please elaborate on "all the time". If you masturbated "all the time" I reckon that would kill you too.

People have to stop to eat, and do basic things.

Also, eating donuts "all the time" would likely kill you too, although one would imagine you'd get full occasionally and become incapable of eating more, which might of course change over time.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html

Read people, something that most of you are obviously deficient in.
Weed isn't the harmless little plant you think it is. It is actually much more detrimental to your health than tobacco.

Just because it grows naturally that doesn't mean it's ok for use. All plants are toxic, the only thing is that different animals have grown immunities to the various species of plant. For example, deer can ingest certain plants that would make a human sick to their stomach and vice versa.

#55 I would like to applaud you. I was tempted to actually email you to tell you how much I liked your comment, but I thought it would be best to show everyone of fml.com how much i really liked it.

I don't think I should point out all the people that smoke(d) weed and became a major success!, so I won't. I just wanted to add my own input to this because it's getting ridiculous. So here goes:

I am not a "pothead"... well not anymore. I used to smoke like no tomorrow, but I *slowed (not stopped)* down. Anyways, I personally prefer that people know I smoke weed because I don't care, and I like to see their reaction. When I was in high school, a classmate approached me and literally began to yell at me. Calling me out in front of a lot of people. Now, not only do I go to a better school than she does, I still smoke weed and am doing better than ever.

So back to the main argument... I honestly don't want weed to be legalized because that would create more problems that we really don't need. This country has enough on her plate, without having people protesting over weed.

The only thing I can say is "Don't knock it 'til you try it" and if you choose not to try it, then that's you, but don't make silly/ignorant remarks because just like you have are strongly against it there are some that are strongly for it.

420

#40- I agree w/ this post.

The teacher obviously finds this banal, criminalized society acceptable. Ignorance is bliss I suppose...

listen to #12

people need to chill out and smoke some fuckin weed, seriously
its not even that bad.

Your teacher is witty, wrong, but witty.

Tweekers shouldn't debate weed legalization for that reason. Just have your smart clear headed friends do it for you.

ROFL
i had the same debate...

#66. Yes there are chemicals in marijuana. 420 to be exact, that's where april 20th as national weed smoking day came from... And the large amount of those chemicals are carcinogens too.

#69. By all the time I don't mean every minute of the day, i mean like a chain smoker of tobacco would, which for them is 2 packs a day.

Legalize!!!

weed defantly does not make norm citezens into criminals if anything it makes us rightueous slow down take a look at something long look and last thing is killing someone ehh if anything i think iwould bee in juvieee without weed haa

in my opinion all people writing on this comment blog needs to chill, if only there were some way to relax even when you are all wound up........... what could it be........it's right on the tip of my tounge............. oh well, everyone stop fight and find some way to relax and chill out BTW when he says turn civ into crimnals it's because it's ILLEGAL! DUH

Tto those that oppose legalisation: Remember the prohibition of the 1920s?

The prohibition was meant to reduce the consumption of alcohol, seen by some as the devil’s advocate, and thereby reduce crime, poverty, death rates, and improve the economy and the quality of life.

FUN FACT: the exact opposite of what was hoped to be achieved happened. The prohibition caused the explosive growth of crime, and it dramatically increased the amount of alcohol consumption.

Tell us again how keeping marijuana illegal is helping your cause?

#65 Water is also a chemical, and you can die from poisoning (not drowning, poisoning) if you drink too much of it too.

#70 Yes, it is detrimental to health...MY HEALTH, not yours. I'm 24. I am an adult. I work. I own my own home. I look after myself. I am legally responsible for my own actions. I am aware of the consequences of what I do, and the risks that I choose to take. So why then do you support banning things from me "for my own good"? I'm not a child. You don't need to look after me, and you have no right to force me into your care.

After all, sex is damn risky too, and so many things about it can kill you (HIV, to name just one). You gonna tell me I shouldn't be doing that too?

There is another 2 points I need to make in the case for legalising it. In recent studies cannabis was shown to have anti-psychotics as one of it's chemicals. In some strains of cannabis these days these have been bred out to have a higher THC content.
If it were legalised then it could be regulated and controlled by the government. They keep complaining saying that there are "killer weeds" out there these days like super skunk and such that can cause you to go insane if you smoke it. But if they controlled it not only could proper studies be done on the plant to ensure the right chemicals remained in the plant but they could also impose an age limit.

I smoke so I don't have any problems with others doing the same. I don't however agree with teenagers smoking it though I know that is some of the biggest smokers. The reason I have for that is smoking weed while your body and brain are still developing can sometimes have ill side affects.
I personally only had my first smoke when I was 21 and I am glad for this. Because if my lungs got this affected from years of smoking in my 20's then I would hate to have seen what it would have done if I had started while in school. If I had started smoking young I probably would never have moved to the UK, seen Europe (well... maybe Amsterdam).
Personally I think if your going to smoke and smoke well and hard then college is the time to do it (or the age you would go to college).
I have done that a lot even though I didn't go to college. Thats not to say that you can't be a functional stoner but when I say smoke well and hard I mean caning it. Smoking so much you have a weed hangover the next day. This can only be done when you don't have a career or family, apart from the odd boys night that is.

So legalise, regulate and put an age limit on it. Kids are still going to be smoking it, but hopefully not as much as there won't be anybody selling it round the playground. Or at least if there are harsh penalties for supplying to minors that is.

If they legalised weed, they would have to admit they've been wrong before.

That's not going to happen. XD

Ok, let's get something straight. Weed is worse for u than alcohol or tobacco because it does the negative things that both do. While alcohol creates patches in your brain that are unresponisve and among other things tobacco gives you lung cancer lady green does both. So you guys can smoke all you want, but know what it does to you. Also don't give it to fucking twelve year oldes.

(yes that means you Tabatha)

Ok, let's get something straight. Weed is worse for u than alcohol or tobacco because it does the negative things that both do. While alcohol creates patches in your brain that are unresponisve and among other things tobacco gives you lung cancer lady green does both. So you guys can smoke all you want, but know what it does to you. Also don't give it to fucking twelve year oldes.

(yes that means you Tabatha)
I posted this twice 4 emphasis

#88 and #89

Forgive me if I don't take your claim seriously. I tend not to trust scientific "facts" when they are delivered without any sources, from someone who spells the the second-person pronoun as "u".

I've smoked weed for years and haven't performed a criminal act in my life. Besides the fact that you deserved that one, you're also an idiot with flawed arguments which probably aren't even yours.

Wow, you guys are seriously into this. I find it kinds disturbing, the aggresive responses I get from a inoffensive opinion. In any case I admit using "u" is pretty stupid, I personally think drugs are bad but someone once told me to know the facts before doing anything I might regret. I have to agree with her. And I believe that above all you shouldn't take drugs before the myelin in your brain is fully formed and you have a line of defense against any neurotoxins that come strolling along. To musu, wow that's a mouthful, I think you should tone down the avid defense of the illegal and nuerologically disatorus substance. Just an opinion.

#85 - "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union... promote the general Welfare..."
The US government has a duty to protect its citizens. So it's not me putting you under my care, it's the government putting you under its care, which by living here you consent to. For the same reason you can no longer get lead paint, despite it's superior quality. It's illegal because the detrimentals effects of its use outweigh any and all potential benefits.

And yes, you probably shouldn't be having sex either. But not because you can get an STD, but at the risk of you reproducing, because you're an idiot.

Excuse me, I have to say a few words regarding the last post
(clears throat)
Burn

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! I can't stop laughing!!! Not at you though. Well, maybe, if you laughed about it. But seriously? The comments some of you people write! It could have been a debate about anything! Does it really fucking matter?! Pardon my french, but come on! Laugh about it and move on. No one cares about your viewpoint. You want to give your opinions on the subject, you join a debate team and debate about it, don't fight on this website over something like that.

There is nothing wrong with weed. It hasn't killed anyone yet, it's a natural resource and it's against the law because the government doesn't get money from it since it can be grown. I have a bunch of friends who smoke weed and they are great, smart people. Haven't smoked weed yet and even asked my mama if I could, she said do it but be careful. I am pretty excited.

I find it funny that so many people think weed should be legalized. No, I'm not judging you. ;D

Anyway, the teacher seems like kind of an asshole but it is a good coincidence. :P

Some of the most intelligent people I've met were majoring in aerospace engineering. They were also avid pot-smokers. Aced all their exams... and they were high most of the time.

It doesn't matter if a person smokes weed or not, if they wanna do something productive, they're gonna do it. It just so happens that people are generally lazy, and smoking weed is just one of those things you do when you feel like doing nothing. Should the government ban television and potato chips because they make people fat and lazy?? Um. Perhaps not.

I have never experienced any negative physical consequence from smoking. Ever. The bad things are the result of the rules that schools and the government implement. Like probation. fuck that shit.

It's incredibly disappointing to witness closed-minded though process. It was very unprofessional of your teacher to say that. What a douche.

i don't think weed is bad, might be better than alcohol, might be worse, the fact that studies are still going better means........ *gasp* we don't no every thing about it, so all you people getting all worked up saying "LEGALIZE IT" chill out, i think you know how. to all you saying "DON'T LEGALIZE IT" you too must chill, find out how.


also on a side note, all you people saying "i smoke all the time, but I'm not addicted." theres a good chance you aren't but a higher chance you are. everyone says "i don't have a problem." until you are stealing stuff or borrowing money you probley won't pay back, to get some cash.


i know people on both sides of the spectrum, funcanal smokers and people who are a burden on society.



and it is a gateway drug, but it can take any where from smoking once a month in the summer, to every day for twenty years for the drug to stop giving you a high, thats when you start looking for the next drug that will give you a high



to all you people that will argue and get really intense against this post, i welcome you. because i know these thing for as close to fact as we can be right now with the current reserch that has been done. so get worked up, beleave what you want, but ignoring signs telling you weed is bad, and keeping on doing it is another sign of addiction.

That is something you never debate/ give a speech on.
It is so tired and overdone, and the only message you get across is "I'M A STONER"

when i smoke all i want to do is go to sleep lol.

#12 i completly agree. I think that the reason weeds illegal is that if it was legal the Gov. wouldnt be abl to make all the money they do off of painkillers. If people could just have a pot plant growing in their backyard they could smoke a bowl whenever they are feeling shitty. the Gov is full of fucking money whores

I could care less if it was legal or not. I smoke buds all the time and don't think onece about it I guess it could be just cause I'm stoned though.

Like #54 I have friends who go to harvard, stanford, and yale who smoke weed.

One other friend skipped two grades and smokes weed. straight 4.0
Two other friends smoke everyday, smokes before they do their hw, study and go to school and they have straight As and Bs.

Look at Michael Phelps. Hes achieved so much and smoking weed has not bothered the way he lives and what he does. it just as what # 36 said "I's not the drugs fault, it's the people who use it and the way that they use it."

So fuck all those Marijuana Commercials that make weed so bad. I smoke ciggarettes which are far more worst then smoking weed.

There are no counted deaths of Marijuana whatsoever.
and it even cures cancer.

I think the teacher wasn't biased, but rather just busting your balls.

For the record, I am radically pro-marijuana, and i still would've laughed in that situation, just because of the irony

Just thinking. You know I don't actually care if it is legalised. Just decriminalize it. I am sure all of you who agree it is bad for you but no worse than alcohol or tobacco can agree that it should be decriminalized and therefore whoever wants to get hold of it and bake themselves slowly can do. Just as anyone who wants to increase their chances of cancer can go buy a pack of death-sticks and smoke themselves into a stupor.

Hell, half if not more of America's last couple of decent presidents smoked or at least tried it or other drugs. If they had been unlucky enough to be caught at that moment and put in jail as so many before them have they would have still gone on to be the leaders of one of the biggest nations around?

Either way. It is a useless argument because if it was ever put to a vote there are too many grey voters and too many religious nuts (and I include all religions there so nobody is being singled out) to vote against it as the media has and continues to do a great job of scaring the populous into thinking it is an evil weed.

So to all my drinks and smokers. United and lighted we stand inebriated we fall! Put your drinks and your lighters up and toast to your happiness. The one thing the government can never take away from you (try as they might).

i smoke alot, or at least i used to, now i only drink and smoke fags my wallet is crying.
Loads of my mates did they're exams high, all got A's

I absolutely love how three sentences about loosing one's train of thought in class can spark massive paragraphs of debate.

some of these comments are absolutely retarded. he wasn't saying that smoking weed makes you go out and commit crime, only that smoking weed IS a crime (which it is, i think we all agree on that one) and therefore when you smoke weed, you become... what now? a criminal.
potheads don't rob and kill to help pay for their habit. that's crackheads and juice junkies. a pothead with no money or weed will either a) smoke resin out of their pipe(s) or b) sell a video game or some shit like that at a pawn shop.
for those of you who haven't ever smoked pot yourself and think that you can account for it's effects through your observation of other people who have, just stop. you don't know. really. i promise. you have no idea whatsoever what pot does or doesn't "make" you do.


#88 - that was the most ignorant thing i've ever heard anyone say on this subject. weed is by far NOT any worse for you than alcohol or cigarettes. When was the last time you heard of someone dying because of a marijuana overdose? How about killing a family of five in a wreck because they were too high to be driving? And though marijuana does contain chemicals that COULD lead to lung cancer, it is much less likely because people don't smoke it like they do cigarettes.

#93 - could you please enlighten me on how the benefits of alcohol and cigarettes outweigh the detrimental effects of their use? i must be missing something, because i was unaware that either of them had ANY benefits whatsoever... you're argument is not only ignorant, but a prime example of why everyone else in the world thinks all Americans are complete idiots with no idea about what's really going on in the world, much less their own country.

#65 - one of your closest friends died from smoking to much pot? really? BULLSHIT.

and as for anyone who made a statement similar to this: "laws are made to protect you" please find a hole to crawl into and die.

#65 your full of it the only way to die is to smoke like a pound in an hour or something and if your friend did that then he's my hero.

over six and a half thousand potheads have read this post.

I have to admit, it's kind of funny seeing as how it does rape your short term memory.

I am a former pothead. I choose not to smoke anymore but I think it should be legal.
I don't agree with lacing the weed though.

You can turn a good person bad with that.

yes im for the legalization of marijuana, but to say there's no proof that it does any harm is kinda incorrect. it makes your memory go to shit.

you think you got called out? I came into class blazed as fuck and a girl behind me said, "umm excuse Ms. Johnson? I'm allergic to smoke so can I change seats?" and the teacher looked at me, and I giggled. FML yet i totally deserved it.

oh and grow some ballz. sure the teacher called you out, but all the times ive been called out i just laugh it off. when it comes to weed, you just gotta giggle.

holy crap what a bunch of bullshit silly nanny comments, just in general.

First we have the fellow pot smokers making comments such as "it cures cancer".....please, put the pipe down my friend.....if pot cured cancer then.....oh god I;m not even gonna get into it....

Then we have the lame-o's saying that their friend died from smoking pot......how do you know it was the pot? There are soooo many things which surround our everyday lives that can kill us, make us sick and give us cancer.......Just look at the stats for how many people have died from alcohol...it's silly why THAT is still legal

Oh let's not forget mister "respect my opinion", funny you should do the same.......

Weed we will never be legalized......get over it, I can.........


PS....this FML is the lamest one I ever saw

for the record, Im an honours student of Neuropsychology going for his doctorate in a few years with a 3.7 GPA while working a 35 hour work week, and i smoke weed at least twice a week.

and 27, THC is not an addictive compound. Douche.

27, i'll answer that first question "If weed isn't addictive, then why do so many potheads keep smoking it, even to the point where you throw your futures and lives away?"

People don't throw their futures and lives away because they smoke weed. Those people weren't going to make anything of themselves whether they smoked pot or not. That's like saying alcohol causes people to give up on their futures and lives; but there are just as many corporate executives who are alcoholics as there are bums, possibly even more. I've been smoking for nearly 8 years now; currently I'm finishing my sophomore year at a major university, I pay my tuition, my rent, my insurance, etc. and I smoke everyday, at least twice a day. I don't hide the fact that I smoke and no one holds it against me because I handle my business.

Quit listening to the "above the influence" commercials. They're bullshit and are probably getting more teens to try smoking weed than they're preventing.

Did you remember the part about how it wouldn't turn normal citizens into criminals if it was legal? Or about how a parent is less likely to get into a violent domestic dispute with another member of the family if he's been smoking a spliff as opposed to hitting the bottle?

How about the fact that the only thing that makes it really dangerous is the fact that it's illegal, so some drug dealers will lace it with just about any other substance they can think of on a whim? I heard about this one guy who had been buying from a dealer, smoking up every day for 5 years, and his brain was totally fried. Turns out, the dealer was putting paint thinner in it to increase his profit margin slightly. Do you have any idea what smoking paint thinner every day for five years can do to a human? You know how that could have been avoided? Legalization.

In the words of Cypress Hill;
Legalize it!

A. I think it should be legalized, because this is supposed to be a free country and preventing people from doing something that makes them feel good is just wrong. I mean sure it has health effects, but I mean really, the only way you are going to be affected by them is if you smoke as frequently as many tobacco users do, which is like 2-3 packs a day (not exactly sure how many joints that would add up to).
B. To whoever thinks it cures cancer, you are misguided. It doesn't cure cancer, but it stops pain, so that is why a lot of cancer patients use it. Chemo and radiation is very painful, believe me, my dad went through it this year.
C. It all depends on the person who smokes. Not everybody will be affected in the same way. Some people get lazy, most however don't become any more or less productive.

So go ahead and legalize it, at this point it may actually greatly help the economy. Of course there would have to be an age restriction on it of 17-18 because it's far worse for you when your brain isn't fully developed.

PS: I am not a smoker and never plan on it, but I don't see any evil in anyone smoking it.

and this is an FML why???? because you're a chauvenist pig??? I'm sorry, but your life was already fucked over when you were born.

#121: because you touch yourself at night.

the teacher was for it the kid said it cost billions of dollars to take care of the crimanals every year then stopped the teacher said thats my point

Why can't they legalize weed? Alcohol is clearly much worse for you anyway.

#80 please tell me your joking about the 420 comment. Have you ever heard of a certain Bob Marlee who died on April 20?

Everyone who says weed better for you than cigs and alcohol, listen up. Pot has basically the same affects as both of them combined, plus more many chemicals than either of them. The reason alcohol isn't illegal is because there is no affect on those around you, but there are laws on doing things when you drink. The reason Cigs are legal is because they don't intoxicate you or people near you, but there are laws and bans on them to protect people who don't smoke. Pot screws up people around you, and can screw up peoples nervous systems, and give you severe emotional and physical problems, weed isn't harmless.

#125: You do realize that isn't the official reason the holiday is on April 20th though right?

peace , pot , tequila shot , jesus loves you , stoned or not .
Sex, drugs , rock & roll , speed , weed , birth control .
lifes a bitch , then you die , so fuck the world , lets get high .
we are stoners , we have class , dont fuck with us , we'll kick your ass .
so all you preps who think you're cool , go to hell , cause stoners rule
weed is a seed that grows in the ground ,
if god didn't want it, it wouldn't be found , so be happy , smoke some pot ,
jesus loves you , stoned or not .


weeds weed, either you smoke it or you dont .
get over it .

128 thats legit

They call it "dope" for a reason.

I live in the Netherlands and over here it's legal muhahaha :P
Who is gonna eat spacecake next weekend? I am!

And yes I am 17 and no, I am not doing this every weekend.

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