I'm sorry but I've heard the "I'm such a nice guy" line far too often to feel *any* sort of pity. Guys who are actually nice don't need to draw attention to it or cry about it. Like what is the plan when a guy says that? "Ugh I'll just be an asshole so I can get the sex I feel I'm owed." Just be yourself. You'll meet the right person. Who cares what other guys are doing or about the women who chose them?

Don't be disrespectful and call women chicks or skanks. Also, don't act nice. These mixed messages get confusing. I'm frustrated at "Nice guys act like they're nice, but they actually want to sleep with you." Heaven forbid a man wants to sleep with a woman. Criticizing a man for having a sex drive is the male equivalent of ****-shaming. As least self-proclaimed "nice guys" are trying to go about it in a nice way, instead of "picking up skanks." But I agree, be yourself, be positive, and make yourself a person that people want to be with. Doesn't always work, and after 10-20 rejections in a row, you might get frustrated and try something else.

Except they don't. "Nice guys" I've seen are ONLY nice because they want sex. If that girl rejects them they get called bitches, skanks, ect. While the "nice guy" complains. I even know of one who spread rumors about the girl who rejected him, even though she was kind and actually trying to be his friend and help him with another issue. Even said if he could get away with killing her he would. That's what "nice guys" are like.

The best advice I can give after decades of fuckups is this... TREAT WOMEN LIKE THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO DESERVE THE COURTESY AND RESPECT YOU THINK YOU ARE! Yes. It's that simple.

Most women under the age of 25ish aren't really looking for nice guys. You have to wait until they've gotten the bad boy thing out of their system. Bonus tip: women in clubs are almost never looking for nice-guy soul mates. Try somewhere else.

All these guys who pull the "nice guy" card are normally the biggest assholes when they don't get they want. You're only nice because you want sex. After that, the asshat inside comes out.

Heh, the token "nice guy." Those guys can do the most unimaginable things possible. There are so many sides to this, really. A person will get less-than-desirable results if he/she aims for the wrong crowd, has the wrong approach, or is generally thinking wrong (which seems to be OP's ailment). No one, no matter how attractive, is going to get EVERYONE he/she desires (though being attractive and/or charismatic increases the ratio). If a guy gets rejected, he's gotta learn to take that shit, or life is gonna be hard. The thing that disappoints me personally is when I am presented with mixed signals and am led on, but even then, I'm more pissed that you wasted my time AND your own. Just cut the shit off and don't give a ****. Based on the wording of this FML, OP needs to unfuck his thought process.

Also you don't get points for just fulfilling the basic requirements to being a decent human being. Would a girl being 'nice' with no other positive characteristics make you want to date her? My guess is no. These 'assholes' that 'nice guys' typically complain about, likely have other attractive character traits that make them interesting to women. Maybe they aren't assholes, maybe they're just confident. Maybe they have a cool career or hobbies. Being nice simply isn't enough. You need to be actually interesting too.

Everyone should adhere to their standards, especially with relationship stuff. That's why most couples are unhappy in the long run.

I've usually seen fuckboi used for a guy who tries to be nice to get sex then flips if the girl isn't interested....hm sound familiar op?

Really? I've just heard it used in reference to those "Haha and then what ;)" or "tit pix plz" guys lol

I've seen it for those too, I guess it has a range of what is considered a fuckboi lol

I read that last word as "semens"