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wow. i wouldnt do that. i would tell them its just an hour credit and try to work it out. try to talk to the people and get help. but that sucks.
This is so fake. So you're saying that this class is roughly $1,200 per credit hour? Lol yeah right
The OP might have to go back to school full time and not only take the one class- but others so he can have a full course load because of things tied to his parents. For example, he might still be on his parent's health insurance. If he doesn't go to school full time, he will be booted off the plan. Same thing would apply for car insurance discounts.
I agree, he's making it seem a bit more drammatic than it really is. All he would need to do is talk to the head of his major's department and let them sort it out. It happens all the time.
PS, for you OP: I doubt taking a "bowling" class is required for every major. You probably just needed an additional health credit, and bowling is the only one available at this point.
Or the OP might be in the school that have some flat fee for a semester no matter how many credits he registers?
Hellooooo...test for credit?
#77 - On 10/02/2009 at 12:45pm by Reyo
First off OP might have to live in the dorms if he isn't living by his parents. Dorm, cost of medical insurance for the college, the cost of other services, would be the large cost. I took an exercise/one credit class and it was 500. He isn't paying for that, he is fucked because he has to pay for a whole semester for one credit.
You are an idiot for not thinking things through.
@42...this very well could be true, I had a similar situation happen to me recently, except that I had been approved for graduation, walked across the stage, and then 2 months later got an email saying I hadn't actually graduated because I was 1 unit short. I had gone to my counselor and had a 4 year plan just like I was supposed to, but she never checked or mentioned one of the requirements which made me 1 unit short. Lucky for me I had a lab unit that I was able to get added on and didn't have to take another quarter of classes.
But the reason they would have to pay so much could be because of a unit requirement like someone else stated. At my school we were required to have at least 13 units each quarter or we would automatically be put on academic probation no matter what grades we received.
You obviously haven't gone to college.
#114 - On 10/02/2009 at 7:28pm by startafire
what in the world kinda degree requires you to study one hour of...bowling?
#2 - On 10/02/2009 at 6:32am by GerbilsCheat102
It's likely a PhysEd credit for one CREDIT hour, which is different from a 60 minute hour.
That and a few hours of physical ed are a requirement for general ed in a lot of states.
#71 - On 10/02/2009 at 12:08pm by Loverfli
at least it wasnt boweling....
......... and so the story goes, Ya send them to school, Ya put a calculator in their hands and teach them how to use it and still can't figure out how many days and hours are left in school! I'd say, yup, ya deserved this one. Important rule, never rely on someone else for your calculations. Always get out the good old calculator and double check their work. Just ask anyone that has ever paid someone to have their taxes done then had to show for an audit. Best of luck with that degree.. what did you say it was in... Bowling?
Wow, its extremely obvious you are a widdle high schooler who knows nothing about college. Go update your Myspace or watch Twilight or something. You don't figure out your college schedule with a calculator, moron.
#19 - On 10/02/2009 at 8:33am by kaleid0scopeEyes
Well, I'm in college and I don't know about you but I I'm pretty sure it isn't that hard to figure out how many credits one has earned and how many credits you need take in a certain semester to graduate. Maybe it's because at my school they require everyone to make a Four Year plan to make sure we graduate on time. We don't have to follow it exactly but it helps. Also, all the majors have audits to make sure one has taken the required courses in a timely matter.
I guess the OP's school isn't like this, which sucks, but really you should have been keeping track of this and not just relied on your advisor. Or maybe the advisor screwed him in another way I can't think of...
There are many ways an advisor could've screwed him over. I got screwed at college too, the only difference is that I go to college for free. But then I'll have to leave my job if I want to graduate :(
OP's own damn fault. They teach you to go to college to think for yourself, not be told what to do. By the time you graduate college you should be so knowledgeable about graduation requirements and courses for your degree, you could lecture an incoming freshman. Adviser time really was worthless probably 90% of the time.
I am in a similar situation as the OP. I was told my AP statistics credit was good but apparently its not so I have to take biometry or environmental statistics in a new quarter. Now tell me how I have any control or knowledge of what courses I can get credit for and which I can't? In short, #3 and #80 are idiots.
That sounds rather fake. 3,500$ for Bowling? Why would you even need a class on Bowling for college? Now that the serious part is out of the way...
With only one class I guess you'll have a lot of SPARES. :P
Maybe you should protest it and start a student STRIKE. :P
Well, looks like that's another 3, 500$ in the GUTTER! :D
I know rite!?! I'm having a BALL! :P
Oh please, stop making yourself out to be a kingpin.
#15 - On 10/02/2009 at 8:09am by stereopump
You guys are making my sides split.
OMG your APPROACH and DELIVERY were amazing. OP needs to get out of the GUTTER, he needs to take control of his life. He isn't even in the same LEAGUE as you are.
rubixmonkey just killed it...
#129 - On 10/04/2009 at 12:07am by chanman
"...My advisor my screwed...". Seems like you need a lot more than 1 credit hour if you're stupid enough to type my again for no reason.
oh yeah, because one typo undermines 4 years of undergraduate studies. you are just SO badass and SO smart for calling him out on that. we should all be WORSHIPPING you because of your godly grammar skills.
pretentious high schoolers really shouldn't be allowed on the internet.
#20 - On 10/02/2009 at 8:36am by kaleid0scopeEyes
You were stupid enough not to put "my" in quotations. This is why I hate grammar and spelling Nazis. They will only see other people's mistakes.
It's not always pretentious high schoolers who like to point out people's spelling/grammar mistakes on the internet. (Oh my God did you see that? I did not capitalize internet!)
Sometimes I wonder if it's not just people who spend a lot of time reading comments (nothing wrong with that) and thinking they would like to get in the game by nitpicking every single mistype or error because they think, "ooooh everyone will think I am so god damn funny and SMART because I am confident in my language skills."
They fail to realize that nobody gives a fuck.
wow, what a coincidence!! I just got screwed over by MY advisor too!! Now I have to study a pointless paper in summer school just to graduate!
this shit is fake, why in the hell would you need to pay $3,500 for one fucking credit hour class?! and it's bowling God sake!!
it's called tuition. Even if you have to only take one class, you're still required to pay full tuition
Now that brings about the question of what type of education is he receiving when tuition is only $3500.
ignore that last comment. :)
Haha, probably a per-semester rate instead of per year. =)
and that's why you're suppossed to keep track of the courses you still need and the courses you've already taken
I've done my own research about what I need and don't need to graduate, which classes fulfill which requirements, and what I've received credit for through test scores. As a result, I have a spread sheet that keeps track of my GPA and has laid out several possible options for me to fulfill graduation requirements in several different majors. I've added a major, and also switched entirely from one to another, and am considering a minor or two because of the extra time available to me as a result. All my advisors have done for me so far is clear holds so that I can register for courses.
In other words, you deserve it for relying on someone else (even if it's their job) to tell you what classes you needed to take to graduate.
i'm doing a double major in human biology and biochemistry, and can only have 2 credits overlapping between the 2 majors. the requirements to fulfill both have 3.5 credits overlapping, and it doesn't say anywhere in the handbook which courses i can and cannot use to make up for the 1.5 credits i need. i arbitrarily chose 1.5 biology credits, and cannot graduate because i chose the wrong ones. so even if you don't rely on someone else you can get fucked.
#113 - On 10/02/2009 at 7:14pm by leisl14
bowling class? does that even exist?
you gotta love america...
It does. It's actually fun. I took bowling my sophomore year as a physical education class. Bowling is not physical in any way, but it was unbelievably fun, and the written tests were just awesome. LOL.
#72 - On 10/02/2009 at 12:11pm by Loverfli
Hey,try and pick it up in a mini session this semester. Our mini sessions start Oct.19th. Does it have to be bowling or just a phys. ed? Lots of schools offer life guarding...if you can swim. If that doesn't work, just sign up for the one hour class, and work for the semester. If you don't want to pay the extra rent try taking a class online or something! Good luck and happy trails!
boohooo you can't graduate on time. That's why you follow your own schedule and not rely on some lame ass college advisor.
#16 - On 10/02/2009 at 8:22am by capricaz
All the people saying "why are you taking bowling" have never beem to college. He is taking it because that is the easy way to get 1 credit, instead of taking a real course.
In MY country (thus channeling the voice of Yakov Smirnov), you get into college based on the grades you recieved in subjects that actually have something to do with the course you're going to study. I don't think I'll ever understand this accrual of credits. Especially when you can get them for wearing different shoes and lobbing marble down a polished hall.
"In MY country (thus channeling the voice of Yakov Smirnov), you get into college based on the grades you recieved in subjects that actually have something to do with the course you're going to study." Lucky bastard. I've always hated America's school system because they don't let you concentrate on things relevant to what you want.
This is your advisor's fault?
How the hell is it not your fault? Do you rely on your advisor to wipe your ass, too?
shut up high schooler, an advisor is very important in college. its cute that you are trying to look like a little badass, though. go steal someone's lunch money instead.
#25 - On 10/02/2009 at 8:52am by kaleid0scopeEyes
Advisors may be important to college but the individual student gets to decide what he/she is taking and figure out his/her schedule. Your advisor doesn't regulate your classes, just makes suggestions and recommendations. Ultimately, it's YOUR responsibility to make sure you've gotten everything covered.
#32 - On 10/02/2009 at 9:14am by fdgaf_SCL
People, bitching about how this person relied on an advisor is like bitching about a person relying on a PLUMBER to PLUMB. IF the plumber makes your sink leakier than before, you would bitch, right? why? He wasn't doing his job right. Why are advisors exempt?
because you shouldn't rely 100% on your advisor to do everything for you. plus, if nothing else, you should know how many credit you've taken if you are paying any attention at all to how many credits each one is worth. yes, the advisor is there to help, but you still need to rely on yourself. especially in college.
I agree 100% that you can't rely on the advisers, ALWAYS double check and ALWAYS do the course credit math yourself, if in doubt talk to the admissions department because they are the ones who will look over your sheet, not the adviser.
One thing that saved my friend was to get the adviser to sign the work sheet, the admissions dept approved exit based on the fact a mistake was signed off on.
Good luck!
word. The OP should've been keeping tabs on his credits. Seriously, you can depend on your Advisor for somethings, but they can't be held accountable because you didn't get your butt in gear and actually track how many more credits you had left. Advisors have a ton of people to keep track of, especially at public universities, you can't expect them to baby you. I only see my advisor like twice a year because it's easier to keep track of my own stuff.
Really? I suppose it's possible if he's going to an IVY League school, but if that were true, shouldn't he be smart enough to check his classes and requirements so this won't happen?
PS- this was supposed to be in reply to #62
Don't forget about how Mountain Dew is considered to be the holy water of rednecks.
As amazing as your post was, plex, no where does it say that bowling was a requirement. He never said he was one credit short for his MAJOR. Perhaps he just needs one credit in general and figured bowling was the easiest way to go.
Too many people, myself included, learn this the hard way. Do not trust your advisor. Keep track of it yourself.
At most colleges you can add a course at any time during the semester, so you should be able to pick up something now. And if you don't care what course you take, you can always just take a course Pass/Fail.
If not, you should be able to take an online course next semester so that you pay for that course alone instead of enrolling again. Or you can stay at your university and take a course, but only pay for that single course. Or you can take the course at a community college and transfer the credit to your university.
unfortunately you can't always transfer credit from a community college when you're that close to graduating. I know at my university I'm not allowed to take classes at community college because I have more than 70 credit hours. As for online courses, if the OP goes this route they need to make sure they're taking an online course that doesn't require them to be on campus for exams - the online computer class (required, btw) at my college requires that students be on campus for exams, which is so missing the point of online classes....but anyway.
OP, I feel your pain, one of my professors is being a bitch and thanks to them I have to take 1 friggin class in the summer so I can graduate.
Ultimately this is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. There are plenty of checks at college to make sure this does not happen, but its not your advisers fault. They have plenty of other stuff to do without having to wipe your nose also.
Alternatively you can petition to the administration to let you graduate shy of one credit. With compelling reasons they might let you do that.
what else is the advisor supposed to do in their job of advising except for advise? if they aren't gonna do it right, then why pay them to advise?
This is the student's responsibility. They need to schedule the right classes. Every school provides a catalog for every student according to their major that tells them when and what classes they need to take to graduate in "x" amount of years.
The advisor's job is to scratch everything out, and make sure everything is being taken at the right time, and appropriate grades and prerequisites are being met.
Student's responsibility all the way. Welcome to the real world.
then they shouldn't be paid to do something that is the
student's responsibility.
They aren't exactly paid to advise. At my college, at least, advisors are professors and OFFER to take advisees under their wing. They volunteer. But if they aren't even going to do that job right, why volunteer at all?
YDI for not catching the screw up early. I had a class my advisor told me would count a for two different Gen. Ed. areas. She was wrong. I caught the problem myself while making another schedule and was able to fit in another class. By the way I could have taken bowling too, but I opted for scuba diving.
It happened to a friend of mine too, but that was because she didn't pay attention to the number of hours she was getting in her electives. I made doubley sure that I had my elective hours add up to what i needed.
One credit is costing you 3500? Are you sure you're not taking a 3 credit course to cover it?
If so, your school's pricing is ridiculous for part time.
I was juuuuuust thinking this. There's something wrong with that school!
Im sorry but YDI your advisor is not the one who registers you for class you are you are a legal adult and should have known you were a credit short at the beginning of the semester and besides that take a summer course or find an 8 week that hasnt started yet to get your extra credit duh
YDI
Actually sometimes advisors DO register you for classes. At my university, your advisor has to sign off and approve everything before you register for a class.
Yes, but the advisor isn't the one that actually puts you in the class. You misunderstood. Yes- the advisor signs it off, but that is not the same thing as scheduling. Your advisor doesn't know what times you want.
I have heard of students who were told by advisors they would be fine, and then they couldn't leave schol with all their classes in the amount of time they wanted to. Why else are advisors being paid with our tuition? Anyway, you shouldn't pay full tuition just to take one class. Is it really 3,000 something for one? I know here ..one class is like 900 bucks.
I say YDI. You're a big boy, and you should be able to keep track of things like this. You should have know you needed a PE credit.
My sister and I have a theory that some university's do this on purpose in order to screw more money out of you. I don't think you deserve it, but i DO think that you should have paid more attention to your course. and double checked the paperwork, etc.
I'm betting this was UTK and they do shit all the time. The program they use to keep track of your hours FREQUENTLY is wrong. It categorized a sociology class I took as an ENGLISH credit. So basically, the credits are fucked up.
And a PE credit isn't required, but they are often only one hour or so.
OP, if you are at UTK, just apply for a half term PE class THIS semester.
wow yeah I'm sorry YDI. this is why I keep a log of all the classes I've taken, all the classes I need to take, how many credits I've taken and how many I need. guess you didn't learn that in college, huh? maybe they'll teach you that in your bowling class.
man so many YDI's. I wonder if they realize just how frequently it happens. not to mention how frequently they will change the degree requirement without really telling you. happened to everyone I know atleast once.
He never said that it was $3500 just for the 1 hour. The $3500 could be factoring in money for staying campus, technology fees, meal plans, etc. Of course paying for a meal plan with 60 minutes of bowling a week is still pretty stupid but just throwing that out there.
That really stinks. I swear, some colleges do shit like that on purpose just to squeeze a couple more thousand out of you.
Although I guess you should keep track yourself, but I don't either so I can't condemn you for that. Of course, I switched my major twice so I have no idea where I'm at as far as graduating.
#52 - On 10/02/2009 at 10:39am by Glam
I love how you don't keep track of your credits, have no idea where you are in terms of graduation, and yet are absolutely sure that colleges switch things up on students to screw them out of money.
You, my friend, are what's wrong with the world today.
As somebody who's been though the system, and had his fair share of crappy school advisers, ALWAYS GET A SECOND OPINION!!!!!
I LOVE dealing with children like the OP. "It's not my fault ever! I have access to my records. I have access to all me degree requirements. But it's not my fault! Personal responsibility? What's that?" Advisers give you advice. It is ultimately your decision and your responsibility. It is probably a good thing you are staying in college a bit longer. You are not ready to be on your own.
It is YOUR responsibility to track your credits. Stop blaming other people.
It's your responsibility to make sure you have enough credits and all your requirements are being fulfilled. Your adviser is there to ADVISE, not direct. Plus, they tend to advise lots of students on top of having teaching duties. They won't babysit you and, being human, they will make occasional mistake--especially if they're new to advising. If you notice a problem, bring it to their attention. Nowadays everything is online, so checking how many credits you have and which requirements you still need to fulfill shouldn't take more than a few minutes. And quite frankly, the only way you'd be short is if you had the habit of dropping classes, failed a few classes, or decided to take the minimum credit load each semester. A student who doesn't drop any classes and takes a normal credit load usually has plenty to spare come graduation time.
if you were only one credit short you would still be able to walk with everyone else. and if you have to take another class why dont you take one that will be more interesting and more worth your money. my mom was short a couple of credits but was still able to graduate with everyone else. she just had to wait to get her actual diploma.
The EXACT thing happened to me at Miami University in Oxford, OH...twice! I applied for commencement. Some time later I received a letter stating that I was short the required credits. I was very pissed with my advisors. I made an appointment with the Dean of Arts and Sciences in 1994 and asked for a list of what I needed to graduate. She gave me the minimum credit hours I needed to graduate, but warned me that I needed to get straight A’s in order to receive full credit. I took the classes, got all A’s, applied again only to receive that same letter of decline because I was 1 credit short. When I returned to the Dean to protest, she said “I have no record of you coming to see me and I keep VERY good notes”. I was flabbergasted. Bottom line, I had to ask a professor if I could do a semester of research for the credit. FML.
Wow, take some responsibility for yourself. You fucked up! You know what advisors do? They advise. It's right in the name! If you follow somebody else's advice and it ends up going bad, it's YOUR fault.
Does your university accept CLEP credit? I found out that I was missing a credit a month before graduation and I managed to sign up for a test and pass it in that time. GET ON IT, OP.
Haha, yeah right. The way you said it makes it almost sound like your advisor did it purposefully, but whether he did or not, YDI for not keeping track of your own curriculum.
It's your job to make sure you have the right amount of credits. After all, advisors only ADVISE. if you went through four years of college and didn't figure out that you might have to read your own degree plan, you don't deserve your degree.
#68 - On 10/02/2009 at 12:01pm by Vren
Ditto.
#69 - On 10/02/2009 at 12:05pm by Loverfli
I can believe this. I had to go an extra year because the advisors were idiots. But I think the college should be able to work something out w/ you if it's just one class.
Don't you know that you're never supposed to blindly trust your advisors? They're notorious for screwing over their advisees. I sometimes wonder if it's not a conspiracy to weed out the idiots in a program. Oops, guess it worked. YDI.
Hey - who cares! You're still going to be a college graduate. Look to the bright side of things, you pessimistic fuck.
haha well, why the hell are you on FML if you aren't here to read about people being pessimistic?
YDI for not managing your own schedule.
summer school you fucking dipshit! do you even deserve to graduate?!
You realize that this is the start of the Fall semester, right? There is still this semester and spring before the op can even think of summer school! Think next time.
That's why you keep track of a course plan YOURSELF. YDI.
All the people who are saying YDI have obviously never been in college. I've had advisers give me wildly wrong information and, in some colleges at least, they are the ONLY way to get information. In my previous college, you had to see an adviser to to do ANYTHING and if they did something wrong, you would have no way of knowing until you saw another one who thought enough to notice the mistake.
I was in the same situation. I saw countless advisers over the years, regularly checked the school's woefully outdated records online, and kept meticulous track of my credits and requirements. When I went to get my graduation check, the adviser I saw informed me that everyone else had been wrong (or just lazy) and I was short a requirement.
FYL, OP, FYL.
I have been to college... am currently working on a PhD. I have also TAUGHT and ADVISED students while working at a community college. There is this little thing called a "college handbook" that they pass out to you when you first enroll. You can also usually pick up extra copies in the administration offices or registrar's office. Guess what? They are also online! Every one of these handbooks explains in explicit detail what courses you need. The basics: 6 hours of math and English, 12 hours of science, 4 hours of health, etc. etc. They also tell you how many elective hours you need, as well as a total number of hours you need when all of the required hours are added up. If you can't look up this information yourself and make sure that you're on the right track, you don't deserve the degree.
When I was accepted to King (I went somewhere else though) my advisor emailed me with a set schedule of classes that he already picked out for me. I didn't get to choose dates, times or anything. What your advisor does depends on where you go
At least it's a fun class and virtually impossible to fail. :]
should have studied fuckface that way you could spend that $3500 on your world of Warcraft or runescape account that every nerd like you has. you piece of shit
Take it at a community college and transfer it back in to your college. CLEP a class, or check if there is a departmental exam.
Part of getting a college degree is knowing what classes to take. In other words "If you aren't smart enough to know how to graduate, you aren't smart enough to graduate"
OMG only the states would have something as STUPID as bowling as a uni class. Fuckin idiots.
Yeah, I had a similar thing happen in a 2 year school. They changed the requirements during my first year and caused me to spend and extra year in a half taking extra classes in order to graduate. Which lead to another problem getting into my University.
you're dumb and really should figure out what the Internet can be used for. take an online course from ur college and it will maybe cost 500.
#108 - On 10/02/2009 at 5:01pm by akkid17
Wrong. Some of us have made it further. I am about to complete a PhD, and I understood that I and only I am responsible for making certain that graduation requirements are met.
Maybe that's why the comlinbine boys went all crazy and shot the school up after their bowling class.
THIS is an fml I can relate thats gotta suck.
Maybe go to a community college and transfer the credit but if its a univeristy credit then that sucks
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuiiiuiuiiuiiiuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuiuccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccckkkkkkk my life
you 100% completely deserved it. if you would have taken responsibility for your education and payed attention to your graduation requirements (which are provided to EVERY student), you wouldn't have this problem. so i say again, you COMPLETELY deserved it and at least you get to learn with a 3500 bowling class!
Hey, find out if you can take it as an extension course. Costs way less.
I had to take a course over and only had to pay for the course...and anything that has to do with bowling is not worth another 3500.
Bowling?? Really?? That's so far fetched.
Totally your fault for not keeping tabs on your own education. You have one course of study and are one person; your advisor has dozens of students! Ditto to #115; you are provided with your graduation requirements!
that sucks. happened to me too. my advisor fcked up my credit count. i was 2 credits short and had to take one more class in the fall to grad
Welcome to adulthood. It is your responsibility to know what you have to take and how many credits you need to graduate. Colleges provide copies of degree plans for this purpose. In other words, quit whining, you should have double checked your credit count and not depended on someone else to do it for you.
#121 - On 10/03/2009 at 2:11am by MJ86
that sucks. but hey if it's just one class you can raise your gpa and become a better bowler at the same time. relax. hav fun with it before you ge out in the real world.
Councilors can screw you over. They can tell you that a certain course satisfies your last remaining major requirement, you take that course based on that, then you apply to graduate and they don't approve your degree audit. Ask me how I know. My degree says Summer '09 instead of all my friends who say Spring '09
Talk to the dean, get it fixed, end of story.
They don't "screw you over" you need to take responsibility for your own education! YOU should know how many hours you need for your degree. MAN UP. You're almost a big kid, act like it.
What? You're completely ignorant. The college board does stuff like that on purpose so they'll take more money from his wallet. This was clearly a conspiracy.
FYL, OP.
When I was accepted to King (I went somewhere else though) my advisor emailed me with a set schedule of classes that he already picked out for me. I didn't get to choose dates, times or anything. What your advisor does depends on where you go
Something like that happened to me too. Only with high school. >.
I'll bet you go to MTSU. The advisers don't really help much but that is why you are required to submit an intent to graduate form within the first week of your final semester. That way you can add any classes you need
Bowling? wow that's almost as boring as golf, no wait I think Golf's more fun, eh they're kinda the same. 'least with golf you get the outdoors.
You should have viewed your credits prior to all this,
For that reason this is entirely your fault and I lay all the blame on you.
That's what you get for majoring in gym you douche.
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