Today, I found out that I was adopted, now my gay brother thinks it's acceptable to tell me that he's always wanted to have sex with me. FML
I agree, your life sucks (64788) - you totally deserved it (2331)
On 08/12/2009 at 11:13pm - intimacy - by JPF (man) - Australia (New South Wales)
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#108 - On 08/13/2009 at 12:58pm by Phillay632
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Bend down n' touch your toes, Im gonna show you where the wild goose goes O_O
#106 - On 08/13/2009 at 12:53pm by StingMunFizzy
as rodney dangerfield said, it doubles your chances of having a date on saturday night.
what the big deal? he's not your real brother.
#144 - On 08/13/2009 at 7:04pm by nikktherocker
Well, the deal is that he had the feelings BEFORE he found out that the OP wasn't his real brother.
And of course, OP can only think of him as his real brother, even if he's not, so to the OP it is disturbing.
Wonder how that came about though? Most species, including humans, have a natural mechanism in them that doesn't allow that kind of "sibling bonding," even if they were merely raised together rather than born together... or so I thought.
Unless it's different for gays, since they can't procreate with each other... I mean, there is no chance for retarded babies there, so "no harm done"?
Except no species except humans thinks on the same plains we do, and so we find "sibling bonding" in general incorrect no matter what sibling you bond with, because we set up morals.
#167 - On 08/14/2009 at 12:14am by DameGreyWulf
@#201
You're obviously only saying that because you don't have a brother. Either that, or you're fucked up.
Awwkwwarrd.
Australian boys are hot though (at least all the ones I've seen), therefore, this situation is oddly intriguing. :)
Haha, Aussie boys are very hot ; )
But guys who have always wanted to have sex with somebody they thought they were related to, aren't so hot. Good luck sleeping in the same house as him.
#33 - On 08/13/2009 at 8:25am by fuckyourlife8
well, they aren't related. haha.
Maybe it's a pheromone thing?
#159 - On 08/13/2009 at 10:23pm by chanman
Wow. That must've been a bit awkward.
I say... go for it ;) *ha*
#8 - On 08/13/2009 at 6:21am by Sneaky_Lady
EXACTLY WHY some what what in the butt should go down MANGGGGG
dont forget the KY ;);)
#11 - On 08/13/2009 at 6:27am by senior_dingdong
Now's the time to let him know you always wanted to believe to weren't related . (:
#12 - On 08/13/2009 at 6:29am by iFRUiTTART
And you don't know how to use the word "properly" in a sentence properly.
#135 - On 08/13/2009 at 4:22pm by roflcopter_99
If you've grown up with someone as a sibling I doubt that you'd view them in a sexual manner, even if it were revealed that you're not actually related. I think this is fake.
it's called Wincest
ok no, that's gross
he's still your brother even though you're adopted
and besides, it was still incest when Woody Allen married his daughter
even though she was adopted
#30 - On 08/13/2009 at 8:17am by princessgaby
We're actually biologically programmed not to be attracted to people we were raised with. Otherwise, most people would marry their siblings--since most pair bonds are the result of proximity, similarity and familiarity-- and we'd we one very deformed species.
People who commit incest have something wrong with them, plain and simple.
Although I don't know how brothers and sisters who "experiment" together fit in here...
#39 That biological programming is called the Westermarck effect, and it takes place with the majority of people who are raised together between the ages of birth and six years old.
#41 - On 08/13/2009 at 8:52am by HolyJezebel
And since it takes place in young children, two siblings in Leipzig, Germany who hadn't met each other until adulthood ended up forming an incestuous relationship.
Source: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,540831,00.html
#158 - On 08/13/2009 at 10:11pm by I_Deserved_It
yeah, but pheromones should also dictate some of that too, shouldn't they? You're not supposed to be attracted to people who are very genetically similar to you in order to create offspring that are as diverse as possible.
#160 - On 08/13/2009 at 10:26pm by chanman
Why is everyone ruling out the possibility that the brother knew the OP was adopted?
#184 - On 08/14/2009 at 1:23pm by cowinvasion
Grosss... You still grew up with him. It's still incest, only without the fucked up consequences
#22 - On 08/13/2009 at 7:09am by MadeOfAwesome
wow...damn dude. Sux2bU. This one was definitely favorited.
#23 - On 08/13/2009 at 7:11am by xxxdesperadoxxx
If you're making this up you suck and should be ashamed >:0
But if it's true, you have my sympathy. Sorry your brother is a creep.
#24 - On 08/13/2009 at 7:21am by fakkumairaifu
You would have had to put up with it even you didn't know you were adopted. Or would you sue him? Or what?
Idiots above me: They're not related. It's just creepy.
#32 - On 08/13/2009 at 8:23am by ichwillkeinengel
YDi for having similar taste in parents. (J/k) I'm sorry you are so hot you transcend taboo lines into your brothers' heart. Adoption doesn't matter. He's still your brother. Good luck sir.
Wow... I think your brother is a creeper... Even if you're not related, he didn't know that earlier when he lusted after your bod. Really weird, but legal, I think.
#35 - On 08/13/2009 at 8:29am by rebboy_2008
How do you know that?!
If his brother is older than he is, chances are he always knew that his new "brother" was just adopted...if OP was like 3 when they were adopted and his brother was 6 or 7...it's totally possible his brother always knew, but OP wouldn't remember because he was too young...
#130 - On 08/13/2009 at 4:02pm by Puolukka
This is either fake, or there is something seriously wrong with your brother. We are biologically programmed not to be sexually attracted to people we were raised with from a young age. It's why pretty much no one accepts Freud's theories anymore.
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Ya know, this reminds me of the homosexuality discussions all over again. Incest is also a kind of love. It doesn't matter who you love, it's still love. There's nothing wrong with it. Period. Where did you get the idea that we're 'biologically programmed' anyway? That's not true. We were not allowed to do that because that's just how society works. Society considers it a taboo subject. Maybe it's rare but it does happen. There's nothing 'programmed' about it.
#42 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect#Westermarck_effect
#44 - On 08/13/2009 at 8:58am by HolyJezebel
Incest is not just socially unaccepted for no reason. The concern with incest is that it tends to result in offspring with deficits. When the DNA of two people is too closely related to each other, the chances of birth defects and mental defects increase dramatically...not to mention the long term effects on the people involved in it.
Incest is disgusting and if you need to "love" your relative in more than a functionally healthy way, what you need is counseling.... Incest is something that is socially unaccepted because its WRONG, its not WRONG because it is socially unaccepted.
Does anybody else remember when Angelina Jolie made out with her brother at the Grammys?? (I think it was the grammys but could be wrong)
Even as hot as she is it was still freakin disgusting watching her "tongue down" her brother.
#57 - On 08/13/2009 at 9:43am by brilliantbarbie
Also, the OP didn't say anything about love. He just said his brother wanted to have sex with him. There's a big difference there.
If the two involved in incest are not products of incest themselves, there isn't that much of an increase of a chance of birth defects. I will admit i did learn that from House. But also, every one of us has incest in our families. It doesn't matter that it was thousands of years ago, it still happened. I forget exactly how this was proved, but it was something like there were too many people for something. Ugh, I wish I could remember, it would make my point sound a lot more credible. Also, in royal families incest isn't that big of a deal. It is getting to be more of a no-no now, but there's some crazy rule that to become the next king or queen, one must marry into royal blood; usually meaning one's cousin. Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip are somehow related, and when other European countries still had their monarchies, all of them were somehow related.
#66 - On 08/13/2009 at 10:04am by XOfiestypixie
Well I don't think it's wrong. How 'wrong' exactly is it anyway? 2 people of the same bloodline can reproduce just like anybody else. It is socially unacceptable in the first place because most of society thinks it's wrong.
hey just becaus your parents are related doesnt make it right, socially or biologically. dickhead
#83 - On 08/13/2009 at 11:04am by fishdelish
@44 (and also evryone else referring to the westermarck effect, or the cultural or biological boundaries of incest) look up the British Journal of Developmental Psychology (2003), 21, 353-365.
OP: FYL for finding out you are adopted. but a very big so what if the guy wants to have sex with you. do it if you're gay and he's hot, if you're not gay or he's ugly, just don't. you have other things to think about
the reason that royalty is able to marry on a cousin to cousin basis is because scientists have proven that there is enough genetic difference that the offspring will have the same chance of defects as any other couple. as for the OP, that just sucks tell him that there are many other guys out there that he didn't grow up with that would want to have sex with him.....in other words.....distract him from yourself. and if that doesn't work, then sleep with a bat or gun. good luck!
#107 - On 08/13/2009 at 12:53pm by mcullen_unc
One of the biggest reasons incest is considered "wrong" is because of the power dynamics present in a family atmosphere; therefore, it doesn't matter whether or not the OP was adopted, it's still pretty sick that his brother wants to have sex with him. :/
#131 - On 08/13/2009 at 4:09pm by theanonimouse
(sigh)
#67, with the greatest respect, you aren't that bright are you?
When do you think "society" sat down and decided on these rules? And why did they do it?
The revulsion to incest arose through natural selection, pretty much cross cultural, because there are distinct biological disadvantages to being sexually attracted to those you can identify as your kin.
#137 - On 08/13/2009 at 5:57pm by drimpossible
XOFiestypixie
Cogently argued. ;)
No, the thing about royal families was their weddings were mainly determined by politics. Attraction didn't really enter into it. Princes didn't marry peasant girls because there would be no dowry. A few walleyed children was a small price to pay for the Duchy of Burgundy
#138 - On 08/13/2009 at 6:05pm by drimpossible
It isn't like that with everyone. Attraction can happen to 2 people, whomever relation they have. It doesn't mean it's wrong. Maybe you're not naturally attracted to your family, but not some other people out there. I still don't really understand that disgust that come with it, but it's still attraction nonetheless.
Some can argue that you think it's gross because you've been living with them your entire life. There are stories about family members who are separated for years and became attracted to each other when they met again. I don't really think there's anything wrong with that. Maybe I'm just too open-minded.
The disgust is pretty much a trait evolved to maximize genetic variation (or, more accurately, it evolved *because* it increased genetic variation, but making this statement perfectly accurate is beyond the scope of this comment). Two closely related individuals mating will increase the likelihood of activating recessive traits, many of which are harmful. Further, less genetic variation necessarily means less survivability for the group.
That said, in this day and age, the genetic variation issue is much less of an issue. However, the activation of recessive traits is still a huge issue, since it (can) significantly increase the likelihood of various defects that you really wouldn't wish on your children. Of course, in a homosexual relationship, this isn't an issue at all, so there shouldn't be an issue with it in that regard, but the taboo still exists *because* of everything else.
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wait if your brother is gay and wants to have sex with you does that mean you look like a man??? if yes FYL even more
#40 - On 08/13/2009 at 8:48am by why_me14
It's almost as if your parents adopted you because they knew their son was going to become gay (i don't know whether people 'become' gay or just are, but wtvr)...
#43 - On 08/13/2009 at 8:58am by RNorthlandLGB
People are born with their sexual orientation. However, you can't usually tell until puberty, when sexual behaviors start to emerge. There are some signs in early childhood that sometimes indicate homosexuality, like preferring the dress of the opposite sex or preferring to play only with the opposite sex, but plenty of straight people do these things as children too. So there's no definitive way of knowing if your child is gay until he says so himself.
(68) or until you catch him/her making out with or having sex with someone of the same gender lol
#92 - On 08/13/2009 at 11:29am by 12345678dance
Tell your brother that you appreciate the thought. Though, if you're also gay, then why not? It's not like you're really related.
The incest taboo applies to more than just the people we're biologically attracted to. Basically, we (in general) get disgusted by the idea of sexual relations of anyone we were raised with from a young age. So, the OP is feeling the effects of this and, yeah, it would be somewhat creepy.
yeah, that'd be the "mature" thing to do. While you're at it, why don't you beat him up for being gay. If you're going to take the stupid route, might as well go all the way...
#48 - On 08/13/2009 at 9:03am by rebboy_2008
Wow. You are one of the stupidest people I've ever seen leave a comment. It's like reading comments for the Bruno trailer! Just a load of pricks preaching about how Jesus wanted equality for everyone as long as they were white, straight, Christian, males.
#80 - On 08/13/2009 at 10:57am by ALittleBitOfThis
OP, at least you're adopted. My blood brother and I are both gay, and he's been trying to get in my pants for years, his argument being that neither one of us can get pregnant. Just tell your adopted bro that, as far as you're concerned, you're still brothers and he's making a difficult situation that much worse. If it doesn't work, punch him. Sometimes violence IS the answer.
Speaking as a gay man, I have to say...IF this is true, your brother is seriously inappropriate and a skank. However, this smacks of fiction to me.
This entire situation sucks on so many levels. Good luck. If your parents were loving and supportive throughout your life, I would hope that you continue to think of them as such. THEY chose YOU. Your brother is an ass and needs to be bitch slapped. There are just some things you don't do.
#53 - On 08/13/2009 at 9:19am by flinkpamingo
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how could a hairy butt turn any guy on! that's just disgusting
#55 - On 08/13/2009 at 9:36am by Pastor_Rich
Ugh that's weird. Even if you're not biological brothers, you still grew up (I'm assuming) thinking you were so it's... yeah. Not good, haha. Hopefully he was just yanking your chain - well, he wants to.
Actually, the reason biological siblings are not attracted to each other is simply because they are siblings and that, therefore, their sents are very similar. The similarity in the sent of siblings is what allows one not to fall for one's brother or sister. However, seeing as this person is adopted, his sent and that of his brother are not alike which is how his brother is able to feel that way about him. In other words, it's not exactly incest because their not exactly related.
On top of everything, you guys don't even know at what age he was adopted, so they might have not been raised together between the ages of 0 and 6.
#65 - On 08/13/2009 at 10:03am by Xx_f_my_life_xX
Scent has nothing to do with it. Read the Wikipedia article HolyJezebel posted above, particularly the part with the study on Israeli kubbitzim.
And if the older brother has "always" wanted to have sex with his younger brother, and is more than six years older, well, we have other problems...
Also, not being able to spell "scent" doesn't lend you much credibility.
Your both right actualy. Scent does have alot to do with attraction and that whole westmark effect thing is most likely true also.
#84 - On 08/13/2009 at 11:05am by lifeloathesme
ummm....wow well he is still your brother, even though you were adopted. if your brother didn't know about this before hand, thats just kinda grose
#72 - On 08/13/2009 at 10:22am by DevineLegacy
#43: haha that is deadset the stupidest comment i have read all day wtf man go read a book
#85 - On 08/13/2009 at 11:06am by fishdelish
This is like Richie and Margot in The Royal Tenenbaums.
It's funny how everything comes back to The Royal Tenenbaums.
[insert Elliott Smith song here]
this is also like the brady bunch movie where greg and marsha realize they are not blood related and make out
#97 - On 08/13/2009 at 11:57am by plutosaplanet
i'm not against gays, but...that's just sick and wrong!
#87 - On 08/13/2009 at 11:11am by triplethreat13
ok... ewwwwww. that just really sick and scary
whether he's gay or straight, to hear that from some1 u've grown up with thats like a brother to u is just plain wrong
#89 - On 08/13/2009 at 11:14am by jessxoxo28
HAHAHA!! That is hillarious!! Sleep with one eye open, or you will wake up to him blowing you and telling you "it is just a dream, go back to sleep".
#91 - On 08/13/2009 at 11:21am by donkey_hang_down
you should kick the shit out of him and put a deadbolt on your bedroom door because that's fucking sick
YDi for having similar taste in parents. (J/k) I'm sorry you are so hot you transcend taboo lines into your brothers' heart. Adoption doesn't matter. He's still your brother. Good luck sir.
The OP is a guy, his brother is a guy, I don't think it's possible for them to have children together.
#119 - On 08/13/2009 at 3:11pm by chinesekid
Thanks for that astonishing observation, chinesekid. You truly are a genius.
#133 - On 08/13/2009 at 4:18pm by theanonimouse
He might want his ass dipped with family dick??? I am confused right now, I dont remember where this post has gone. Or maybe just a tossing with a reach-around. We will never know
#128 - On 08/13/2009 at 3:47pm by donkey_hang_down
Ugh, I can't stand the "imagine if we were in a gay world" argument. You know what? The minority of straight people would be JUST as oppressed in that world as gays are in this one because - get this - GAY PEOPLE ARE EXACTLY LIKE STRAIGHT PEOPLE, except gay. So that wouldn't make them suddenly more tolerant if they were the majority. So just... just stop. Please.
#132 - On 08/13/2009 at 4:16pm by theanonimouse
That's fucked up man! Tell him to go to therapy. Not because he's gay but because he thinks incestly! Ew!
#148 - On 08/13/2009 at 7:31pm by fawfulster
What the hell is the deal with everyone suggesting the OP should go ahead and have sex if his brother's hot? CLEARLY the OP is distressed and NOT interested.
WHAT? EVEN IF HE WAS UR REAL BROTHER. Your still brothers. Didn't u grow up together? What the point if ur both males and blood. Its still werid.
#150 - On 08/13/2009 at 7:50pm by Julietiloveyou
Well you know what they say.
If you can't keep it in your pants, keep it in the --
Wait, you're not related?
This complicates things.
#151 - On 08/13/2009 at 8:38pm by Overcast117
The writing on this is kinda choppy.
Anyway, to those saying 'who cares? he's not your brother' they grew up as siblings. that would be extremely awkward to hear.
#152 - On 08/13/2009 at 8:42pm by mehwhateverr
Straight people everywhere: wouldn't it be weird if a gay brother or sister told you they fantasized about having sex with you?
Gay people everywhere: wouldn't it be weird if a straight brother or sister told you they fantasized about having sex with you?
It doesn't matter that they aren't blood related, that's not what makes someone a brother. OP: FYL that is seriously creepy.
#153 - On 08/13/2009 at 8:50pm by Nectarine
Idk is this is fake but...if not,
your brother is just being funny.
If you're straight then he's only kidding even if you're not...well..idk about that,
lol I love my gay friends.
They are STILL brothers... adopted siblings ARE "real" siblings... just like an adoptive mom is your "real mom" and the woman who gave birth to you is (only) your biological mom. Genes are only one way to make a family...
i would be more inclined to comment if this wasn't so obviously fake
#162 - On 08/13/2009 at 10:33pm by pineapples
all you people saying 'don't drop the soap' and 'watch out' need to shut the fuck up.
why do straight people think that every gay person wants to fuck them.
gay people think just like straight people do, they just have a sexual attraction to the other sex.
#166 - On 08/14/2009 at 12:01am by andrew1987
That's really creepy if your brother has been turned on by you for a significant amount of time. And i'm sure even creepier if you find out your brother has these thoughts. Also that sucks just finding out that news. Sorry man.
well at least you wont have that whole awkward "meet the parents" scene...
Sorry...I couldn't resist :D
I'd imagine *you* would; considering the fact that your father has probably been
banging those britches of yours for years.
#176 - On 08/14/2009 at 5:58am by Jazzywrites007
FAKE! I don't care how gay your brother is, I highly doubt he would ever have wanted to do you. Adopted or not, you were raised as brothers, that's the only way he's ever going to see you. If I had a really hot brother and found out he was adopted, I still wouldn't want to do him because he's still my brother, and that's all I'd ever see him as.
Sadly, as it turns out, while most of us are that way, a small minority of the population (gay, straight, and otherwise, though, admittedly, I've mostly heard of guys wanting their 'hot sister', so pimpin88 above is just stupid (but we knew that)) actually don't feel the same effect for some reason.
my suggestion is if you like him too go for it.
if you don't like him tell him to stop screwing up your relationship.
just that simple.
don't bring the morality into this.
because it's 'er...'
#180 - On 08/14/2009 at 9:09am by slashgoddess
Aussie boys are hot, yes.
It'd be something to do when it's a boring day at home. I kid. I mean unless you want to... hahaha
Mrwarrr, aussie boys...
As for the people who say it's fake... not so much, hell I have a cousin that I'd SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DOOOOOOOO...
I wouldn't be surprised if this is BS. And OP, are you sure that you're not from Kentucky?
#187 - On 08/14/2009 at 3:04pm by PutDownTheGun
wow, i'm sorry to hear that. i'm incest though. i feel offended.
#195 - On 08/15/2009 at 9:17pm by breeding_real
I've heard that the reason society views incest as taboo and wrong is because it was encouraged way back when for people to date outside the family clan as a way to spread the family name. But who knows.
Aside from that, I call fake.
#199 - On 08/16/2009 at 12:11pm by nikkidubs15
If I were you I wouldn't go for it. He still is your brother, you grew up with one another he is your family. Think twice before you do anything and anyways your not gay so it's all good. At least for you. Lol.
#200 - On 08/16/2009 at 9:45pm by JustSoLost
oh god. O.o if my brother told me that, i'd move out of the house, and fast.
#204 - On 08/18/2009 at 12:14am by Cheyenne_Is_Me
GAH if it were two GIRLS in the FML, the sexist pigs on this site would be telling them to get it on, regardless of whether the one was lesbian or not...
And it's not really incest if he's adopted, hello. People are dumb...
#205 - On 08/18/2009 at 1:32am by lologirl419
You're absolutely correct: people /are/ dumb. The incest taboo (as in, the one that makes you think it's gross to be with your own family, not as in the one in society at large, though they're obviously related) doesn't make distinctions for genetics. Basically, grow up closely to someone from a young age => incest taboo.
It may not be incest genetically, but in OP's mind, it still is, and that's what makes the FML.
Hey, atleast you know that you're attractive, right? :)
#212 - On 08/25/2009 at 2:49am by Shyman4ever
