Today, the principal of the school I teach at told me she's not interested in re-hiring me because sometimes I wear a hoodie. FML
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OP here, two years later I am still working at the same school (in my beloved hoodies). The principal that told me this was not renewed for the following year, so luckily our head of school valued competent teachers over well dressed ones. I work at a charter school who encourages teachers to dress comfortably so we can go outside to play soccer, or get on the floor to do small groups, and I was in “dress code” according to the crew handbook, the principal was just a snob.
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devildog562 33
It's a shame that people like this are in charge of hiring those teaching others.
k_th0m 15
It depends on the context. If the OP works in a private school, then maybe they are preferred wearing uniforms. Sometimes some schools want more professional outfits. :/ I'm sorry for the job loss.
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devildog562 33
It's a shame that people like this are in charge of hiring those teaching others.
hamburgerjung 23
Exactly! We can't let people get through with things like this. This is Democracy Manifest!
patrickalamo 48
However, that's only the part OP decided to write about. If OP is just good at teaching they can have a new job tomorrow.
1dvs_bstd 41
I disagree. You can't work in a bank, wear a hoodie and not expect to be seriously reprimanded or in the worst case, lose your job. Even in European football (soccer), players have to dress corporately when they board their buses or planes or they get fined. Hell, workers in McDonalds have to wear uniforms. Just a little professionalism wouldn't hurt.. they're not asking you to suit up everyday ffs.
brand125 17
#32 you can wear sweaters at mcds, they just have to be a mcdonalds brand. and they said they sometimes wear hoodie, not everyday. the op is probablly a guy, because i know woman who can pull off a professional look with a sweater/hoodie, its not unheard of.
brand125 17
minus having the hood up.
funkypenguin 7
Hoodies don't meet business casual dress code. Couldn't hurt for OP to find a work appropriate sweater. It may be a minor influence on the kids to show how to present yourself in a professional situation.
Frillwee95 12
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Wearing a hoodie has nothing to do with professionalism. As long as it doesn't have ganglike writing on it or is very dirty, there is no problem whatsoever wearing it as a teacher. Unless of course op teaches at one of those stuck up douchebag rich people schools.....
devildog562 33
I think my point was , it sucks that America has it so the person that went to the best school, or some kiss ass that knew the right people now. No merit system that determines the best person for the job gets the job. **** equality because of color , clothes , or class, it should be the best person for that particular job. While I agree that you should maintain a professional look at work , that should be a simple conversation , not a reason to not hire someone back. I have a feeling though that rehire meant that you left before and now are trying to go back, which in my experience rarely works out well in suchlike field of work .
Bragi 12
60 - Professional does have a clothing componant. Hoodies don't make the grade in any office environment.
MrsPegg 45
My question is this: was it a school hoodie? If it was a representation of the school, OP was put together otherwise and a good teacher, there shouldn't be a problem. Now, if it's a prep school where dress code is strictly enforced, that's a different story. I think there's something else going on. If OP's attire was that big of a deal, there's more tactful ways of handling it!
IndicaPaincakes 28
Is there anyone you can bring this to?
Cozy_Blanket 16
Not sure it would do any good. The principal could just give another reason for letting op go and there's not really much op could do about it. Unless you go all James Bond and get a recording of your boss saying that!
Ltsdragons 19
Tell the principal you're not interested in getting rehired by her because she has absurd reasoning and shouldn't even be in charge of hiring.
wanted_2_want 40
^^ yep. I would've used the OP's grammar as the excuse. I mean "reason".
iTzSelverZz 14
Thays not a reasonable excuse, you should report her if she declined rehiring you for that.
devildog562 33
It's the principal of the matter . Yea I am aware of the spelling .
danielhartlesss 13
Unfortunately, if OP lives in a right-to-work state, the employer can fire the employee for any reason other than gender or race.
iTzSelverZz 14
#19 Thats just injustice.
khaoticpanda 28
I agree. At the school i go to teachers wear hoodies as everyday attire. Some wear sweatpants. Its not a big deal. But i understand it might be a little different for other schools with higher standards for the appearance of teachers.
Senseless_487 29
19, you're thinking of an at-will state. A right to work state simply means that workers can't be forced to join unions as a condition of employment.
Bragi 12
3 - Why? That's pretty low end attire unless you teach PE. As a parent I certainly wouldn't tolerate it.
ckerane 16
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discrimination
IAmzephyr 22
against the otherwise dressed?
Mmmsushi 14
No
IAmzephyr 22
well I understand that he wants teachers to be professional, but that's rediculous. Good luck with your next job then OP
NinjaBoyDavido 13
Some people are just ridiculous
k_th0m 15
It depends on the context. If the OP works in a private school, then maybe they are preferred wearing uniforms. Sometimes some schools want more professional outfits. :/ I'm sorry for the job loss.
XmanInTraining 18
I went to a private school with a work study program where the male teachers all wore dress slacks, a button up, and a tie. The female teachers seemed to have a little more leniancy but it was always business attire. Not sure if that is OPs case, but either way, sometimes wearing a hoodie doesn't seem like a reason to fire someone. Maybe a warning first?
tossaway2321 5
The chances of him working at a private school are pretty low
ohSNAPyall 27
If the school expected business attire, the school would have a staff dress code.
redpanda39 10
Maybe they do have a dress code that OP broke by wearing a hoodie, and that's why they were fired in the first place. OP could have been given multiple warnings, we don't know.
EmoKami 21
I doubt they were fired. It probably was a lay off, and then they just chose not to take her off the list as a rehire. I'm in a union and if the job ends or there's a lack of work, then I get a lay off. Then I subsequently get put on a list for companies to get workers from, who would then decide to call me for rehire or not dependant on if they liked me in previous jobs.
redstone7693 29
This "principal" sounds like a dumbass
Sheepalicious 20
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Tell her that you're pretty sure she wears hoodies too, even if its around the house!
lovelyvampire 16
Could that be construed as discrimination? I'm not sure, but I do believe so. I'm tired of Educators just not caring about what is important. skill means more then a sweatshirt.
brand125 17
no thats not discrimination, atleast not legally. i mean im sure you could argue it, but i dont think anyone would get anywhere. its normal for a workplace to have a dresscode if not a uniform...
piggybits 14
Than
Bragi 12
11 - No, it's not based on an immutable characteristic or faith.
DrummerWS 23
It's a shame how backward some people can be.