more parents in today's world need to spank their kids. not abusive of course. but back in the day when parents spanked their kids, the world was a better place.

O come on my mom even pulled me by the ear. That hurt like hell! And your worried about spanking?!

No shit. I can't believe society still does that. I hate it when people say "kids these days need it blah blah blah"... Not a toddler who marked on the wall who doesn't know better.

but if you treat your kids like they don't matter anyway, there's few ways left for showing them that their behaviour is unacceptable. spanking is the last resort for parents who ignore their kids' needs, because there is no other way to make them even more uncomfortable than they are anyway. so i understand why some parents beat their kids. i just don't know why they have children when they hate them.

Not every form of punishment works for every child, and sometimes when a child repeats a specific behavior over and over after being punished in other ways, a good old fashioned swat on the behind is the thing that gets it in their head. Spanking is not my last resort because I ignore my child's needs. It is my last resort when no other behavior modification technique works. Usually just the thought of a swat is enough to illicit the needed behavior change.

I got hit when I was a child or spanked whatever but damn let me tell u it was effective...ha

84- so did I. It made me hate my parents.

64, How stupid can you really be? Spanking is a last resort, yes, but not like you so stupidly put it. When nothing else works, spanking generally does. It's not our fault that your parents either beat you or didn't discipline you. Work out your own issues before you judge other people's parenting.

How do u know the toddler didn't know better...he may have been told hundreds of times and done it again

I don't think I could spank a kid. It feels way to sexual after watching the Secretary, but that's probably just me.

same here

YES a toddler that marked the wall "that doesn't know". My parents spanked us, obviously not as an everyday punishment but if we had done something completely over the line then, yes, we would get spanked. I maybe only had seven spankings in my whole childhood but I can guarantee you that I never, EVER did the things that I was spanked for EVER again. One of which was drawing all over the wall in pen when I was five. My parents were great parents, they were not abusive or cruel or neglectful. They were the most loving, most balanced, most grounded and caring parents I could ever have wanted or needed and I fully intend to do my best to practice my own future parenting from their example.

You must not know very much about parenting... My sister has a kid that's out of control because she won't spank him when he does something bad. Yeah, you're right, they don't know any better. The word "No" means nothing to him. When your toddler is misbehaving, or even worse, doing something DANGEROUS like running into the street, until the word "No" holds meaning, the only way he'll get the message is if you spank him.

o mi god ur the problem with society

Sometimes spanking isn't good since it messes the kids mind up. Hey it's been proven by test

I was spanked as a kid. Not all the time just when I did something many times that I wasn't supposed to do. I got spanked with a belt too. I'm 16 now and to this day I love my parents. Sometimes kids need spankings. Worked for me.

Seriously all these people who are traumatized by the fact that a parent still spanks their kids... my brother in law called the cops on his dad because his dad pushed him, AFTER he his his mother. Some kids need discipline, he never got any and now he is a spoiled brat!

my mom use to hit me with a wooden spoon and hit me upside the head when I was little and when I was 14 but I learned to think

i agree 100% i did something wrong got spanked i learned quickly never to do that again....

61. if you let a child continue misbehaving, they won't stop just because. Even if they "don't know any better" they need to know that it's not ok and they can't continue doing it. People these days let their kids get away with everything, you need to teach your children discipline!! If my parents hadn't have spanked me when I misbehaved I wouldn't have learned what was unacceptable. There is a HUGE difference between a spank for punishment and child abuse.

61, obviously u either were never spanked, or never learned a lesson, I was always spanked and sometimes beat, and everyone says I'm one of the most respectful people, my little bro was left alone, and I'm worried he's gonna end up in jail, so strict punishment is strongly recommended in my book

yeah spanking is fine....IF it's on the ass with a hand, my dad has accidentally knocked me into a glass table(partially my fault I jumped back like an idiot) and I don't have any problems....straight As n Bs in school sports and minimal fights.... so no spanking won't ruin a kid unless it's with an object anywhere other than the butt

Wow...sorry to cause such a debate :/ I guess every parent has their methods but for me, spanking isn't one of them.

I got spanked as a kid. it didnt hurt or anything, it was more embarassing than anything, and made me realize how stupid I was being. I think spanking is a good way to teach kids when theyve done something bad.

I'm going to spank mine when I have kids. You wonder why kids these days are mongrels and little brats? It's because their parents don't discipline them properly. Besides, if the kid is old enough to string together that sentence, he's also old enough to know not to draw on the wall, and so deserves it.

fatraptorjesus - "unless it's with an object anywhere other than the butt" My parents smacked me with their hands but it varied - on the butt, back of the legs, back of the hand - doesn't make much difference, as long as it's not in a place easily prone to injury (eg, head, stomach, etc). My cousins were spanked on the backside with a wooden spoon too. They've both turned out to be perfectly respectable young men... even if their choice in hairstyle is a little bizarre :P

Did they do a test on retarded kids?

you are an idiot

Kids need some spanking. I am not saying it's okay to beat the shit out of your kids, but seriously most kids are out of control these days. They don't give two ***** about what you have to say, and they just ignore your lectures. I mean it's way better than parents just sitting on their ass and just give up on thier kids because they either a) don't give a **** b) are afraid to push their child away c) just ******* idiots. Keep your kids in line. The generations are just getting worse. ****, there's 11 year olds getting pregnant and getting hooked on hardcore drugs. Seriously, it's ridiculous.

How is the toddler going to "know better" if nothing is done about it. They won't understand if we try and explain to them why they can't do something again. They'll just do it over and over again. Children need to fear their parents as well as love, other wise they'll just do whatever they wan't.

97, either your parents used to beat you as a child or you're just a panocha..

I don't necessarily agree with spanking if it's the only form of punishment but I also don't agree with 61 or 64. The kid probably was a toddler but my niece is 3 and she knows right from wrong. She would know that writing on a wall is something your not suppose to do. Some parents don't know the correct way to discipline so they resort to spanking and that I don't agree with. But if you tried other forms of discipline and they don't work then I can see why a child was spanked.

jesus christmas he was spanking him not beating him with a crowbar >.>

I have a friend that is really out of control, she gets beat up with objects by her parents her and her brother to this day(being In highschool), they have no respect for their parents and they have almost no relationship with them. when I was very young I got lightly spanked, not enough to hurt just to scare me, I was a little scared of my parents then but they stoped as soon as I was able to have a discussion with them about what I had done wrong, I'm a teen and throughout adolesense and teen years a have very minimum fights with my parents we operate as best friends, we can do that because I behave very correctly and have similar interests with them, I'm legally classified as a genius, (dont freak out...not being all braggy. and also I don't attemp to "act smart" only sometimes do I forget to act "normal") my IQ is 163. and I'm not sure if that helped me when I was younger to know how to act but anyway, moral of the story: spanking is ok when the child is young, but should not progress and harsher or further then that. In my opinion of course.

My boyfriend and I agreed that when we're married and have children, they will get physical discipline if talking doesn't work. But we decided that the child would not be hit in the face; just a small smack on the butt. Honestly, I was slapped, spanked, had my ears pulled, and I came out fine. I was only disciplined when I disrespected my mother and talked back; now I treat every adult I know with respect. And for the person who said hitting a child messes them up; that's slightly wrong. It's psychologically proven that a small spanking is what a small child needs. You give slight physical discipline when they are younger to teach them certain rights and wrongs. And then when they're older, you take away their possessions, because that's what hits them hard.

Actually words hurt more than a little quick pain on the butt.but I guess going to jail and getting your butt taken from you is a lot better.

I'm 15 and even for the smallest things I still get hit. Except I'm Hispanic. my parents believe on hitting me with a sandal or a belt...lol it does straighten you out cause u never did what they hit me for again.

I'm so glad that any psychical punishment against kids is considered as punishable abuse in Norway. Spanking your kids just shows that you're such a terribad parent that you need to use violence and fear as power because you don't know how to raise a kid. It only causes hate and fear for the parents, and will most probably end up with the kids not showing any affection or care for you later, so why bother becoming a parent at all. Thumbs down for bad parents incoming~

403- I'm not a parent but I still thumbed you down for being incredibly ignorant.

Like I said, my siblings and I were hit when we were younger, but only for huge offenses. We all came out fine and aren't not afraid of our parents. We actually adore our parents and constantly playfully bicker about who's the favorite. I don't think you have much experience with physical punishment and are only going off about what people are saying recently.

Physical punishment is fine as long as you're careful and don't overdo it. Safety is key. When you overdo it, bones can break. One time my dad accidentally broke my hand with a leather belt. It's actually a little bit funny in hindsight. However, I think a better punishment in this case would be to have the kid clean the wall.

I think spanking is ok occasionally, but not for every little thing. I wasn't spanked. I turned out ok.

I'm just wondering how many of you are actually parents.

I was never spanked as a kid. My parents just explained to my sister and I that it was wrong and why it was wrong and that was the end of it. We never did anything bad that I know of. We just followed our parents' example of behavior in public and did what we were told. It probably helped that my mom is a preschool teacher & my dad teaches high school & they know how to discipline kids without hitting.

I seriously think people over react to spanking. It's not one of those things that'll hurt after a minute. Most parent won't spank you that hard

I got spanked when I was growing up as did my sister. we were terrified to screw up or get n trouble. it gave us a respect for our parents and we were better behaved.

The lack of spankings is what create some of the people that we have in the world today. Young children need a short and direct punishment that will get their attention. you don't put them in time out for for an hour so they forget what they even did in the first place. It's one thing to abuse a child... but seriously? A spanking? Did you forget that god created the ass as padding?

btw I meant to say won't hurt after a minute.

Lol i totally agree

Unless you have been smacked so hard upside the head that your spit flies out of your mouth, and smacks you again upside the head, you haven't had a good childhood. I was spanked as well and I never hated my parents for it, I respected them for it. Because it showed me that they weren't the kind of people that made rules and then flaked out when I broke them. It provided me with consistency, and instilled respect for my elders in me. There's a line between punishment and abuse, if you don't cross it, then there's nothing wrong with it. Good day.

I agree with 76, when I was spanked as a child it makes you afraid to do wrong or act out. Some of these kids are so bad today where they need a spanking...but oh yeah a time out will sooooo scare them not to do wrong

I agree with all of you. And if you reported the parent, child services would just laugh. Spanking is very common, affective, and it doesn't hurt the child enough to make them forever scarred. So whoever is saying differently, can stfu. And to OP, that's freaking hilarious! Oh, what kids say.. What're you gunna do?

Honestly, my parents smacked me on the behind when I misbehaved and I'm not permanently damaged. I love both of my parents and I'm glad they did it. I know they tried time outs and all I did was fume and get mad. If they smacked me on the behind, I knew I did something wrong. It didn't make me necessarily afraid of acting out, it just taught me that there are always consequences for my actions.

I am so glad that more people on this website have common sense. When are people going to get the fact that spanking your child is NOT corporal punishment? My dad spanked me and my sister when we acted up, maybe all of six times for myself. When my parents got divorced, my mother changed the discipline to "time-outs". Wow. I wonder which one is going to modify a child's behavior more: a swat on the bum, versus standing (or sitting) in a corner staring at a wall. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. People need to take a cue from the older generation (the generation that points out our generation's flaws) and really change.

Creationist... Why am I not surprised?

Spanking your child for drawing over your walls when your boss is coming over isn't something that is meant to be reported. I grew with my mom yanking my hair and slapping me in the face if I didn't even clean up my room, wonder how it would've been like if I ever colored on the walls..

Spanking is not child abuse. Spanking is parenting. I find it utterly ridiculous that some people don't realize that our parent's generation turned out a lot better than we did because they got spanked and punished whenever they did something wrong. Now kids don't get a spanking and they're running amok. Kids today aren't afraid of the consequences of their actions...because there aren't any! I'm not saying spank for everything but the fear of being spanked will keep a kid in line.

U should b reported for being a dumbass. Temper tantrums didn't start becoming a norm until people stopped disciplining their kids. I will also point out that the kid was fine and still spunky enough to make things harder for his dad. Dumbass.

Some people just don't know how to control there kids and spanking and taking away TVs And other stuff is a great way to get respect from your kids

*facepalm*

Why? Because society tells you that spanking is wrong? You would have no problem with that punishment when it was socially acceptable. You're just the type of non-thinking conformist robot that allows everything except rational thought control your beliefs. Stop blindly swallowing everything you're force fed and open your eyes friend.

Yeah... Getting respect from your kids through corporal punishment. You are all really really smart people who deserve to live :) I'm the dumbass for thinking there are better ways of dealing with your kid. Effing rednecks. You are the ones who deserve to be beaten and left bleeding to death under the moonlight.

I hate when people act like spanking is the worst thing! There is a difference between spanking and abusing! My parents spanked me when I was younger. I'm 13 now and I have complete respect for them, meaning I dont smart talk them and actually respect them unlike most kids who don't get spanked. If I do screw up I get grounded or something taken away. But you can't do that when your kids are young. It's not like they have a real social life or are attached to anything! But if you want raise another "that girl" or "that guy" that's my friends and I talk about now, then go ahead! BTW, this is commune from a 13 year old!

I'm starting to see a common theme in every post pro-spanking "scared to act out, scared to screw up, scared etc..." Sounds like all of you didn't act out, or try to be perfect out of fear than out of respect for your parents. Gaining "respect" by making someone scared to do anything isn't really respect. I was never spanked and I actually do respect my parents authority, not because I'm too scared to do anything.

Then you are a rare child. My wife is a social worker and let me tell you, almost all of the children she deals with that are so far out of control as to require government intervention have been raised without spanking, indeed without any effective discipline at all. Sure a well behaved child doesn't need to be spanked, but if a time out is the strongest consequence you are comfortable with giving your child, what will you do when you send him/her to the corner and they tell you to go f**k yourself at 8 or 10 years old? Will you just break down and bemoan your terrible luck, getting a strong willed child, or will you realize that your "discipline" is of so little consequence that your child may like you as a person, but has no respect at all for your authority.

None of the above? If your child at 8 years old is telling you to go **** yourself there is only one place they learned that. From you. That's not a child's problem that's a parental problem. Sure I've had an easy life growing up middle class with honest and respectful parents. I'm not ignorant to the fact that the class you grew up in has an effect to an extent, but what's a bigger influence in your behavior is what your parents show you. Children's behavior is learned from parents and siblings until they go to school then slightly learned from peers. If your parents talk to you and tell you this was wrong, take your toys, tell your friend they have to go home, all of that works just as well and the child understands better. Communication between child and parent is the most important thing in the child's life. Note: my mom teaches pre-school and she can tell at that age which kids have the highest chance of succeeding in life.

Sure some kids learn that from their parents, but loads of them learn it from preschool, friends, daycare, etc. And how exactly does a 3 year old "understand better" when you reason with them? They have very very VERY limited reasoning skills at that age. One swat on the butt is much easier for them to understand than "Don't hit your brother. It's not nice".

Pattern recognition/association. Would you rather have your child associate you being mad with pain and fear? Or have them associate you being mad with disappointment and losing the things that they have an attachment to (their toys) for a short period of time. Yes you can't sit your 3 year old down and tell then *why* it's wrong. But children recognize disappointment and pain, they just wouldn't call it that. Growing up my parents would show us that we hurt someone. Little kids understand *hurt* a sibling crying and pushing you because you hit them and your parents hugging them while telling you that what you did was "bad" makes you see that you hurt someone and you feel bad as well.

Let me just point out to those of you that are so vehemently against spanking and insist it's a disgusting form of abuse: I'm not entirely sure what your definition of spanking is, but mine surely doesn't involve beating a child until he bruises as you are insisting. It's not something a parent uses to cause long term pain. Its a brief form of punishment that tells a child too young too reason that what they did is wrong and in some cases potentially dangerous so they know not to do it again.

NAU....dude children learn things everywhere these days my neighbors are THE BEST parents I've ever seen and their kids are always (politely) asking people what **** or shit means....and idk how you got spanked but in reality it's 10000 times better than alot my mom would do :p can't injure the fat on a kids ass, can't break anything there and it usually stops hurting in 2 minutes

Boooo! Someone has a different view on child rearing than me, boooo!

247 I wasn't spanked as a kid, which I've stated. Yes kids may learn things everywhere but if a child is cussing or disrespectful depending on the age it is learned from parents. You don't see little 4 year olds forming gangs on their 3-wheelers, riding through the neighborhood beating up kids cuz the don't understand discipline.

That's because barely any parents let their kids out at 3 or 4, not because they are busy disciplining them but because no mother is stupid enough to let her child out at such a young age and expecting them to come back home and not kidnapped or hurt somehow. Most children can't even think and the age of 3 or 4 properly, and are easily influenced. To ask whether or not you'd want your children to associate you being mad as fear of being spanked again or as fear of losing some toy? It would be being spanked again every time as the pain will always fade quickly but the memory of it will stay. Spanking has brought up many good people in this world for over two millennia and to say suddenly that it's better to try reason with them and take away objects? I find that ridiculous and rather short sighted.

"When are people going to get the fact that spanking your child is NOT corporal punishment?" Spanking actually is corporal punishment. Corporal punishment is punishment that involves intentional infliction of pain. But that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with it :P

NAU_future - "Yes kids may learn things everywhere but if a child is cussing or disrespectful depending on the age it is learned from parents." That's a load of rubbish. Any kid over the age of 2 is perfectly capable of picking up bad language anywhere. Daycare is a massive culprit if the kid goes to daycare. Read FML enough and you will read heaps of stories of kids who've picked up a bad word just from hearing it once from a parent's friend or from daycare or wherever.

294 if they use it properly it wasnt heard once but many times. If they say it it's just cuz the heard something but don't know what it means. Anyways this can all be solved one simple way, when your dog/pet does something bad do you hit it or yell at it? If ANY of you say you yell at it you are hypocritical conformist pussys. Thank you

He should be reported for basically being a parent? Last time I checked, spanking is not illegal. As long as there are no bruises or anything of that sort, it's okay. Kids nowadays need a good spanking or two

NAU~ when my dog/pet makes a mess on the floor I stick it's nose in it so it will learn not to do it again but ur obviously yo ignorant to accept the fact that ur wrong and that spankings are one of the best ways to get a child to learn telling that they were wrong doesn't do anything so for the love of god please shut ur mouth and let other people have their own opinions Thank and have a nice day

Oh I think I just may love you Der. I am ignorant and wrong, in your opinion so I should shut my mouth and let other people have an opinion. I have not once outright said any one way is right or wrong. Simply stated my opinion and the different ways in which children can be reared. Unfortunately I wasn't aware that my opinion was wrong. I apologize deeply for having beliefs and opinions different then yours. Please what can I do to right my horrible wrongs! Thank and have a nice day.

I was spanked as a kid and now because of it I'm actually rather messed up. I have a therapist to deal with the fact that I think after anything goes wrong I must inflict pain upon myself and I'm on antidepressants. Spanking doesn't work for everyone; for some it royally ***** them up. :D

Spanking is okay. It's beating that goes to far.

Oh no nau, you didn't say they can't have their opinions but you ridiculed them as far as I remember. Why was that about "hypocritical conformist pussys"? If you're going to insult, least do it properly with the correct spelling. When my dog would act up, we spank her lower back around the side and near her tail to tell her it was wrong for what she was doing. She would learn soon after. We'd use a rolled up bit of newspaper for my cat as it's well known cats hate loud noises and you can't spank them as they're much smaller than humans or dogs and you could seriously injure their bodies, whereas humans have padding on their bodies and larger dogs are built for resistance. Getting back on point, you're an idiot. You expect people to respect your opinion and when they don't, you whine about it, even when you've been the one to start calling names. Grow up, kid.

Watch Russell Peters and you'll understand..."Somebody's gonna get hurt real bad!"

Lol stfu

God? Haha, Good one. Yea, he suuure exist. What have you been smoking?

Yea because that got their face drawn on was probably passed out from a party.

It would suck if they didnt understand. Lol

Sup. Where r u from?

Damn 59 need some water you sound thirsty

You literally laughed your ass off? That... sounds painful.

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