By Anonymous - 22/12/2013 15:36 - United States
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Not really no. Can you tell me the basis of Wicca? No you can't. It's different from who to talk to about it. Everyone believes a different "truth" therefore as a whole it is invalid. I can ask a catholic the basis of their religion and the same for a Christian and a Jew but I'll ALWAYS get the same story from them regardless of how many I ask. Even with true pegans. Never once with a "Wiccan" have I got the same story twice
You're a fucking idiot. Firstly, it's pagans, not pegans. Wicca is not a religion of wannabe pagans. You are so fixated on having a long detailed story that you probably missed the common denominators between the different Wiccans you spoke to. Just as there are many denominations of christianity, the are different beliefs among Wiccans. The core beliefs are still there, you just missed it. Just a hint, the number of deity is NOT a fundamental tenet of Wicca. There are many Wiccans who believe in zero, one, or many deities, whereas pagans by definition believe there are at least two.
115- I'm not Wiccan myself, so my familiarity with the faith comes not from personal experience but research, something the fluffy bunny "wiccans" frequently fail to do in any depth. Wicca was developed in the 1950s by Gerald Gardner, drawing from a variety of sources including the works of Aleister
Wicca is a nature based religion. Wiccan's don't really worship deities, they honor them. They do however worship nature, which sounds stupid to many people. But without nature we wouldn't be able to survive. We as humans need the plants, trees, sun, etc to live every day. They believe in karma and the rule of three (what you put out into the universe comes back threefold). They believe you should never want to harm others with your craft. Wicca is a peaceful religion based on nature and getting in touch with yourself and the gods and goddesses. Some Wiccan's honor many deities, some only one, some none.
138- What are your sources? I haven't come across references to Wicca existing as such prior to Gardner, but I'd love to expand my knowledge base. 115- "Pagan" is an incredibly broad term, generally accepted as applying to a person following an Indo-European, pre-Christian deity or pantheon, so I'm confused as to exactly how these "true pagans" you've spoken to are all giving you the same stories. Even within my grove, a relatively small group of people worshipping according to the same traditions, we have people from Irish, Norse, Greek, Slavic and Vedic backgrounds with similarly diverse mythologies. When you start pulling from a broader pool, the neo-Pagan community as a whole, the answers you get should diversify as well.
I'd say you're an idiot asshole, but as someone named Juggalette with numbers on the end, I think your life is hard enough. Think of it this way: Christianity has a book, people form congregations to discuss said book, and those congregations got large enough, so they took over the world. Wicca is seen as a crackpot religion and everyone who practices it either gets mocked or punished some other way, and wiccans have an extremely hard time organizing into congregations because of the way most people in America look down on wicca for being either "stupid baby shit" or "not real religion" or "sucking Satan's cock for powers". Wiccans either form very small local covenants, or look for each other on the internet; but teens see wicca as "OMG ILL SUCK SATANS DICK FOR POWERS". Thus, there cannot be a cohesive, widely agreed upon definition of wicca, because 1) congregations aren't allowed to form without public ridicule/punishment, so there is no in-depth discussion of texts and practices, and 2) people consider themselves "experts" on wicca when they are not because the internet told them they were and so spread misinformation.
143, I'm just referring to the ideas. They're so fundamental that many people will practice 90% of Wicca and call it morals. It did pick up the name Wicca shortly before the Gardnerian time, but the texts they studied to arrive at these conclusions came before them. 141 has it exactly right. Those are beliefs common to all Wiccans.
183- Wicca and Druidry are very similar, but they are two different religions. Wiccans tend to be duotheistic and worship alone or in small, closed rites where druids are usually polytheistic and worship in larger rites open to the public. Severe oversimplification, but I have a character limit...
I don't really agree with that. I'm Druid by birth and choice. Not in the least Wiccan. There are some similarities, however Druidic faith has more set guidelines than Wiccan, I believe. Wiccans can find their own path that feels right to them, while there are three main roles or paths you can follow here. Druids have much more history behind them too, although not so known to those who didn't grow up around it. Their tenets are definitely more defined and agreed upon than Wiccans'.
Call the local priest. If the phone lines mysteriously cut out and you lose power, start throwing crosses at them.
133- I know people who are Wiccan and practice witch craft. I didn't say it was bad. I only stated that it was witch craft. That and there are two types of magic. I'm going to assume that OP's daughter was trying out some black magic, hence the reason I said witch craft the way I did.